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[cjyoung]

I pray that the City of Fort Worth deals with the murder of Miss Jefferson in a just and honorable manner.

 

May she rest in peace.

[ramjet]

Agree.  This, and the police chief debacle, where is the public safety leadership in Fort Worth?  Don't want to pile on because I love Fort Worth, but the current leadership at the elected and appointed level, around public safety, is not worthy of this wonderful city's citizens.  David Cooke?  G.K.?

[renamerusk]

Ms. Jefferson had a degree in Biology and had aspirations to become a physician. Imagine the lives she may have saved or made healthier; and instead her life has been unjustifiably ended.

 

Here is the crust of the matter:   If you are a policeman who feels overly threatened by residents because of where they live, then you should not be a policeman.  If you feel overly certain that where a resident lives justify going from A to Z ( start to ending in fatal force) without methodically going  A to B to C to D.....to Z, then you should not be a policeman.

 

I would add that consideration to dismiss either or both City Manager or Deputy CM for Public Safety following this turn of events and the events surrounding the previous Chief of Police.  I doubt that a 6-7 figure monetary compensation, which is surely justified in this matter, will be closure for Ms. Jefferson's family. I do suggest that a permanent fund be established equaling the compensation to create a one of its kind College of Police in Fort Worth in coordination with one of the U.K. Colleges of Police.

 

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[cjyoung]

Ramjet &

 

Agree.  This, and the police chief debacle, where is the public safety leadership in Fort Worth?  Don't want to pile on because I love Fort Worth, but the current leadership at the elected and appointed level, around public safety, is not worthy of this wonderful city's citizens.  David Cooke?  G.K.?

City leadership has been an issue for a very long time and it's the reason why we continue to play second fiddle to our neighbor to the east. I'll be interested to see what Sharen Wilson does next?

[cjyoung]

 

Here is the crust of the matter:   If you are a policeman who feels overly threatened by residents because of where they live, then you should not be a policeman.  If you feel overly certain that where a resident lives justify a going from A to Z ( start to ending in fatal force) without methodically going  A to B to C to D.....to Z, then you should not a policeman.

 

 

My thoughts exactly!

[hannerhan]

 

 

Here is the crust of the matter:   If you are a policeman who feels overly threatened by residents because of where they live, then you should not be a policeman.  If you feel overly certain that where a resident lives justify a going from A to Z ( start to ending in fatal force) without methodically going  A to B to C to D.....to Z, then you should not a policeman.

 

 

My thoughts exactly!

 

 

This is one of the reasons everyone should be thankful that the body camera technology 1) exists and 2) is being implemented across law enforcement agencies en masse.  Imagine what would have happened in this case 10 years ago.  Cop shoots woman, cops enter house, woman has gun in hand, story gets altered, cop skates with no press and no consequences.  Video doesn't lie.

 

I'm certainly not anti-police, but the incompetence we have seen over the past few months is astounding (Botham Jean, the guy who killed the woman shooting at her dog, and now this one).  The only way to fix it long-term is to send murderers to prison, regardless of whether they're wearing a badge.  I see recent events as a major step in the right direction, as tragic as the deaths are.

[cjyoung]

 

 

 

Here is the crust of the matter:   If you are a policeman who feels overly threatened by residents because of where they live, then you should not be a policeman.  If you feel overly certain that where a resident lives justify a going from A to Z ( start to ending in fatal force) without methodically going  A to B to C to D.....to Z, then you should not a policeman.

 

 

My thoughts exactly!

 

 

This is one of the reasons everyone should be thankful that the body camera technology 1) exists and 2) is being implemented across law enforcement agencies en masse.  Imagine what would have happened in this case 10 years ago.  Cop shoots woman, cops enter house, woman has gun in hand, story gets altered, cop skates with no press and no consequences.  Video doesn't lie.

 

I'm certainly not anti-police, but the incompetence we have seen over the past few months is astounding (Botham Jean, the guy who killed the woman shooting at her dog, and now this one).  The only way to fix it long-term is to send murderers to prison, regardless of whether they're wearing a badge.  I see recent events as a major step in the right direction, as tragic as the deaths are.

 

Amen

[cjyoung]

One of things I've found very interesting is I've gotten more detail from the New York Times than the Fort Worth Star-Telegram or Dallas Morning News.

[renamerusk]

There is nothing comparable in printed media to the NYT with perhaps the exception of the Washington Post.   I think that the local broadcast outlets have done a pretty thorough job. 

 

What I found interesting in a perverse way is how the reporting was datelined "Dallas" and it to a day or so for the national media to correctly go from Texas to Dallas to finally to "Forth Worth", that right "Forth".

 

There is a thread about a campaign by Fort Worth's media industry to dateline news story from Fort Worth; and thus providing the City with proper exposure, whether positive or negative.  NBC station in Far East Fort Worth (Center Port) was datelined Dallas.  Even Associated Press datelines American Airlines from Dallas.  We've are being ghosted.

 

Fort Worth needs a locally based media organization that broadcasts  news from a Downtown location.

[cjyoung]

The stories I've read in the New York Times and Washington Post all reference "Fort Worth" and not "Fort Worth, Texas" and even though the Ms. Jefferson and the family's attorney were in Dallas doing an interview with Don Lemon on CNN, there wasn't any confusion of who, what and where Fort Worth is.

 

This will be a defining moment for Fort Worth and pray that justice prevails.

 

The AA Dallas reference is on our coward city council who won't stand up to AA or Texas Motor Speedway (of No Limits, TX?...outside of Dallas) or any other entity.

[renamerusk]

Yes, like I said, NYT and WAPO are pretty detailed about things like datelines.  If NYT reports about Arlington, Texas, its dateline will be "Arlington, Texas" and not Dallas or Fort Worth.  News print have a stricter standard regarding where, when, what, who, why than the broadcasting sector of media.  I think it is due to the fact that newspapers are designated legally and politically as public record.

 

I do think that it is a sad state that a place with 3/4 million inhabitants have to commute 30miles to be interviewed in broadcasting media.  NBC and WFAA do have a broadcasting studio in Fort Worth, right?  And what is that CBS11 building on East Freeway for?

[Dylan]

The officer never identified himself, and decided to sneak around the back instead of knock on the front door. It appears he explicitly wanted to cause trouble.

 

The officer murderer ought to rot in prison.

[Dylan]

EDIT: discussion about TV stations is taking place in the "Top 10 Things You Want Downtown" thread, so I'm posting my TV-related reply there.

[cjyoung]

Yes, like I said, NYT and WAPO are pretty detailed about things like datelines.  If NYT reports about Arlington, Texas, its dateline will be "Arlington, Texas" and not Dallas or Fort Worth.  News print have a stricter standard regarding where, when, what, who, why than the broadcasting sector of media.  I think it is due to the fact that newspapers are designated legally and politically as public record.

 

I do think that it is a sad state that a place with 3/4 million inhabitants have to commute 30miles to be interviewed in broadcasting media.  NBC and WFAA do have a broadcasting studio in Fort Worth, right?  And what is that CBS11 building on East Freeway for?

The lawyer is based in Dallas and her father lives in Dallas. In fact, Ms. Jefferson went to Lake Highlands High School.

[renamerusk]

This is another high profile shooting event for which we seen happen before.  In most of these instances, the lawyer comes to where the victim or action took place.  Is there no place in Fort Worth that could have hosted this new story?

 

As I stated, it is a sad state of the media infrastructure of Fort Worth that has been culled out and contracted over to Dallas.  What too does it say about the breathe of the legal infrastructure in Fort Worth also?

[JBB]

The interview was for a CNN show and their bureau is in Dallas.  Even if one of the local stations had a better presence in Fort Worth, the interview still would have happened in Dallas.

[renamerusk]

Yes, I understand all of that.

 

However, can't we acknowledge the minor if barely at all broadcasting infrastructure in Fort Worth.  Geez, even Waco has a more robust broadcasting infrastructure than Fort Worth.

[JBB]

The response from the police department and city leadership has been better than I expected and much better than with past incidents.  None of that makes up for the loss of Ms. Jefferson and it remains to be seen if this can bring about the kind of cultural change that many cities and their law enforcement need.  It would have been hard to keep it completely under control, but they seemed completely unprepared for the response at city hall last night.

[renamerusk]

I am finding the circumstances and the rancor surrounding this tragic event to be unsettling.

 

Potter House in Dallas seems a bit of an added hardship upon her friends, neighbors and the rest of City who want to show their heartfelt respect to her family.  I hope that Fort Worth could offer Will Rogers Auditorium for this memorial service and like services that may happen in the future.

 

We as a City do have resources that are suitable for such occasions.

[cjyoung]

I am finding the circumstances and the rancor surrounding this tragic event to be unsettling.

 

Potter House in Dallas seems a bit of an added hardship upon her friends, neighbors and the rest of City who want show their heartfelt respect to her family.  I hope that Fort Worth could offer Will Rogers Auditorium for this memorial service and like services that may happen in the future.

 

We as a City do have resources that are suitable for such occasions.

 

Could be a better possiblility if her mother was well. Her dad is based in Dallas. 

[renamerusk]

I understand the family's circumstances; and ultimately their wishes are the most important.

 

Yet, this is a Fort Worth tragedy.  I have been moved by the outpouring of good wishes from the immediate community.  I also that I believe that Mayor Price has shown the utmost respect and sympathy for her family and for representing the City.

 

I just believe that having this memorial out side of Fort Worth will be a missed opportunity for both those of Fort Worth and beyond Fort Worth to see how the people here can express their sympathy.

[rriojas71]

I understand the family's circumstances; and ultimately their wishes are the most important.
 
Yet, this is a Fort Worth tragedy.  I have been moved by the outpouring of good wishes from the immediate community.  I also that I believe that Mayor Price has shown the utmost respect and sympathy for her family and for representing the City.
 
I just believe that having this memorial out side of Fort Worth will be a missed opportunity for both those of Fort Worth and beyond Fort Worth to see how the people here can express their sympathy.

Rename I know you are a big promoter of Fort Worth however I think this is the wrong time and subject to be practicing homerism.

[renamerusk]

 

I understand the family's circumstances; and ultimately their wishes are the most important.
 
Yet, this is a Fort Worth tragedy.  I have been moved by the outpouring of good wishes from the immediate community.  I also that I believe that Mayor Price has shown the utmost respect and sympathy for her family and for representing the City.
 
I just believe that having this memorial out side of Fort Worth will be a missed opportunity for both those of Fort Worth and beyond Fort Worth to see how the people here can express their sympathy.

Rename I know you are a big promoter of Fort Worth however I think this is the wrong time and subject to be practicing homerism.

 

 

  I understand and I am aware that it may be viewed as homerism...it is not anything like that and perhaps you are viewing this in too narrow of a perspective.

 

It is about how we, as a City, can demonstrate in our most profound way through an outpouring in numbers our sadness about a tragedy that this Happened Here...it did not happen elsewhere.  Only Fort Worth and its citizens can make this as right as possible; and therefore I believe that Fort Worth must experience this first hand, close up and take a city wide moment of pause for reflection.  A funeral can do that for a City.

 

May I remind everyone that when the similar thing happened in Dallas, you did not see nor would you have expected the Fort Worth community to be moved enough to travel 35 miles to show its respect for something that happen in another city.  The immediate community that Ms. Jefferson was apart of is by no means a wealthy community and some if not many will have a challenge with traveling the distance to Dallas or dedicating an entire day to do so.   When President Bush passed away earlier this year, there was a memorial service in Washington, DC and a memorial in Houston for the community of Houston to express it sorrow and show support to the Bush Family.

 

The City and Mayor will be speaking to two audiences: Ms. Jefferson's family and the people of Fort Worth. I am saying that the best  and most effective way to do that is here, and not someplace else. Preferably and most appropriately, the venue should take place here.  I know that the family's wishes are paramount.  I also hope that our Police will be there to demonstrate that this is not indicative of the FWPD and that their presence will be some way of showing empathy with the immediate community for which Ms. Jefferson was apart of. 

 

I stand by my statement that this is a missed opportunity for our City to bookcase the bad beginnings with a good and loving ending.

[cjyoung]

 

 

I understand the family's circumstances; and ultimately their wishes are the most important.
 
Yet, this is a Fort Worth tragedy.  I have been moved by the outpouring of good wishes from the immediate community.  I also that I believe that Mayor Price has shown the utmost respect and sympathy for her family and for representing the City.
 
I just believe that having this memorial out side of Fort Worth will be a missed opportunity for both those of Fort Worth and beyond Fort Worth to see how the people here can express their sympathy.

Rename I know you are a big promoter of Fort Worth however I think this is the wrong time and subject to be practicing homerism.

 

 

  I understand and I am aware that it may be viewed as homerism...it is not anything like that and perhaps you are viewing this in too narrow of a perspective.

 

It is about how we, as a City, can demonstrate in our most profound way through an outpouring in numbers our sadness about a tragedy that this Happened Here...it did not happen elsewhere.  Only Fort Worth and its citizens can make this as right as possible; and therefore I believe that Fort Worth must experience this first hand, close up and take a city wide moment of pause for reflection.  A funeral can do that for a City.

 

May I remind everyone that when the similar thing happened in Dallas, you did not see nor would you have expected the Fort Worth community to be moved enough to travel 35 miles to show its respect for something that happen in another city.  The immediate community that Ms. Jefferson was apart of is by no means a wealthy community and some if not many will have a challenge with traveling the distance to Dallas or dedicating an entire day to do so.   When President Bush passed away earlier this year, there was a memorial service in Washington, DC and a memorial in Houston for the community of Houston to express it sorrow and show support to the Bush Family.

 

The City and Mayor will be speaking to two audiences: Ms. Jefferson's family and the people of Fort Worth. I am saying that the best  and most effective way to do that is here, and not someplace else. Preferably and most appropriately, the venue should take place here.  I know that the family's wishes are paramount.  I also hope that our Police will be there to demonstrate that this is not indicative of the FWPD and that there presence will be some way of showing that to the immediate community for which Ms. Jefferson was apart of. 

 

I stand by my statement that this is a missed opportunity for our City to bookcase the bad beginnings with a good and loving ending.

 

I agree 100%.

[renamerusk]

A tragic final chapter we can hope - Her father has died.

 

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[FortWorthLowrider]

RIP!