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[Austin55]

Looks like a new distillery is coming to 113 Roberts Cutoff pending a zoning change. 

 

 

Blue Flag Distillery

Zoning change request from I to MU-2

The developor of the property is currently under contract to purchase the land, and will need a zoning change to develop the property to a craft distillery and tasting / event venue. The property is currently zoned "I" and we are requesting a zoning change to "MU-2". The property is currently vacant, with an approx. 1800 sf house and misc. outbuildings. The intent is refurbish the house, provide outdoor patio spaces, and possibly construct a small building for the distilling process (pending purchase of neighboring property).

https://accela.fortw...ShowInspection=

[Doohickie]

 

Looks like a new distillery is coming to 113 Roberts Cutoff pending a zoning change. 
 

 
Blue Flag Distillery
Zoning change request from I to MU-2
The developor of the property is currently under contract to purchase the land, and will need a zoning change to develop the property to a craft distillery and tasting / event venue. The property is currently zoned "I" and we are requesting a zoning change to "MU-2". The property is currently vacant, with an approx. 1800 sf house and misc. outbuildings. The intent is refurbish the house, provide outdoor patio spaces, and possibly construct a small building for the distilling process (pending purchase of neighboring property).

https://accela.fortw...ShowInspection=

This is a sort of random street view, not sure what exactly is happening here:

https://goo.gl/maps/zgCd3o36Ykzi7Z4q6

 

Just looks like an old residential property.  Are you talking about the two people looking at it?  Could be anything.

[Doohickie]

Ten years ago it was a pretty nice house.

[gdvanc]

Interesting the differences in that whole stretch of Roberts Cut Off between the current Street View and the 10-year old one. I did a little virtual drive on it yesterday because I have vague memories of that general area and it struck me how dingy and run-down it looked. The old Street View you just posted looks so much nicer - not just because things have 10 years less of aging but because of the time of year the pictures were taken. Some of those trees, bushes and vines may be more overgrown now but they and the lawns look much better in fall green than late winter brown.

[Crestline]

Looks like a new distillery is coming to 113 Roberts Cutoff pending a zoning change. 

 

 

Blue Flag Distillery

Zoning change request from I to MU-2

The developor of the property is currently under contract to purchase the land, and will need a zoning change to develop the property to a craft distillery and tasting / event venue. The property is currently zoned "I" and we are requesting a zoning change to "MU-2". The property is currently vacant, with an approx. 1800 sf house and misc. outbuildings. The intent is refurbish the house, provide outdoor patio spaces, and possibly construct a small building for the distilling process (pending purchase of neighboring property).

https://accela.fortw...ShowInspection=

 

That little house is zoned "I" for light industrial? Seems odd to me, how come it's not residential? In any case, seems like a nice spot for a distillery / venue.

[Crestline]

Overture from the bike trail today:

 

[Mr_Brightside526]

Totally a fan of density but truly saddened by the number of trees removed here. The parking lot trees will never get to be as big and beautiful as those that were removed. 

[John T Roberts]

I will agree with you 100%, Mr. Brightside!

[Crestline]

Careful or we'll all wear a divot into the trail there. 

[Crestline]

This morning (not quite up to my usual standards but the bicycle was still rolling!):

 

[Crestline]

I can't tell if they're totally done from the trail; I ought to drive by the front on Scott Road to check there!

[Austin55]

The Settler has broken ground. 

 

 

The drone offers a pretty interesting view of the unique mix of housing that has emerged in the area. SFH, rowhomes, big wrap apartments, small apartment buildings, garden apartments... lots of variety. 

 

[steave]

That area's quickly becoming something like an "urban" neighborhood which is cool

[rriojas71]

Yeah “kinda urban”. Still not much retail

[John T Roberts]

What was going to be the Lazy Daisy Coffee Co. will become a full restaurant.

[Jeriat]

Just a thought... you think a BRT line could work on White Settlement? 

I know certain areas would take issue with it, but maybe just having a stop in the River District? 

Route it from Central Station to Lancaster to University to W.S. to Ridgmar and back?
 

[Crestline]

Just checked and was surprised to learn that there's no bus service, BRT or otherwise, running the length of White Settlement! Would have expected one to be there given that it's a significant corridor. smh

[Jeriat]

Just checked and was surprised to learn that there's no bus service, BRT or otherwise, running the length of White Settlement! Would have expected one to be there given that it's a significant corridor. smh

 

And that's the main reason why I brought it up... that neighborhood is still in Fort Worth, btw, which makes it even more puzzling.

[Doohickie]

Just a thought... you think a BRT line could work on White Settlement? 

I know certain areas would take issue with it, but maybe just having a stop in the River District? 

Route it from Central Station to Lancaster to University to W.S. to Ridgmar and back?
 

 

Make it interesting:  Have a shuttle from Ridgmar to Building 200 at Lockheed, running at 10 minute intervals during shift change times (6:30-8:30 am, 3:00-5:30 pm).  A bus line like you suggest plus another connecting Ridgmar to Altamere - SW Blvd - I-20 as far as McCart or Hemphill.  I could use that for commuting.
 

[steave]

I don't ride the bus so I can't really comment, but why do so many west side routes go to Ridgmar anyways? It's deader than a zombie movie out there. There are apartments near there which should have service, but the mall itself is a bad location.

[Jeriat]

I don't ride the bus so I can't really comment, but why do so many west side routes go to Ridgmar anyways? It's deader than a zombie movie out there. There are apartments near there which should have service, but the mall itself is a bad location.

The mall is still on life-support... people still work and (somewhat) shop there. 

 

[WTXKid]

Shout out to the Dillards Outlet

[mmmdan]

 

I don't ride the bus so I can't really comment, but why do so many west side routes go to Ridgmar anyways? It's deader than a zombie movie out there. There are apartments near there which should have service, but the mall itself is a bad location.

The mall is still on life-support... people still work and (somewhat) shop there. 

 

 

 

My gut was to say that that Trinity Metro uses it as a transfer center, but it's not on the official list.

https://ridetrinitym...ansfer-centers/

[Austin55]

Rendering of The Settler via KWA Construction: https://multistory.m...-fort-worth/

 

[rriojas71]

I drove along Athenia Dr. and the area south of White Settlement Rd and the area has really changed and is coming together.  Not sure how I feel about it but it is definitely going to get dense.  

[Stadtplan]

New connection to Crystal Springs and the Trinity Trails. I also ran into Austin55 while on the trails today. Nice catching up with him.

[Stadtplan]

New connection to Crystal Springs and the Trinity Trails. I also ran into Austin55 while on the trails today. Nice catching up with him.

Heres some other shots of Crystal Springs. Big place.

[Stadtplan]

 

New connection to Crystal Springs and the Trinity Trails. I also ran into Austin55 while on the trails today. Nice catching up with him.

Heres some other shots of Crystal Springs. Big place.

 

 

Here's a few Crystal Springs drive-by's.  Austin55 had mentioned this was a slow project and it seems like they are making progress but have a ways to go.

 

[Crestline]

Looks like the entire Crystal Springs development could be copied almost twice into the Kite Farms acreage, lfgggg

[Thurman52]

Kite farm site is proposed for Trinity Terrace community. Single story with some on property stores for residents 

[Stadtplan]

That is too bad. I would have liked to see this retained as a farm or an acreage. Between pad sites, mixed use, multifamily and single family developments, much of the natural beauty along the Trinity has been ruined in my eyes.

Heres a three year old article:
https://www.globest....frontage/?amp=1

[txbornviking]

as for rezoning etc, I've been told Westworth Village is VERY protective of their single family zoning, so it seems (sadly) unlikely that development found on the eastern bank of the Trinity will continue westward

[Austin55]

 

Big chunk of land along White Settlement for sale just East of the district.



https://sarahhardy.e...-76114/14660385

 

Apartments... 

 

Jeriat saw the future

[Austin55]

Where is that? Google maps takes me to an existing neighborhood. 

[Cliff]

Lockheed Martin Building 500 & 501

[Crestline]

Lockheed Martin Building 500 & 501

 

Someone's finally developing that huge Lockheed site? Awesome! 

[Crestline]

Cross-quoting steave's post last year with a relevant article from the New Subdivisions thread:

 

Hopefully neighborhood NIMBY's can be shut down, there a housing shortage and this is needed:

 

https://fortworthrep...o-neighborhood/

 

I think, to be generous, the people complaining about this are all of an older generation that became homeowners in an era when any reasonably hard working person with a moderately skilled job or education could buy one of those small 1970s ranch houses or early 2000s Centex Homes plywood boxes. That's not how the world works anymore.

 

 

 

[rriojas71]

 

 

I can't believe they're going to build 50 acres here.  

 

https://www.oxenfree.com/

 

Record CG23-00084: 

Commercial Grading Permit

Record Status: Plan Review

 

Permit Address

4334 WHITE SETTLEMENT RD

 

Project Description:

Oxenfree at Fort Worth

Early grading

 

Disturbed Acres: 49.3

 

 

I cross-referenced the TAD account #6509150 that was listed on the grading permit and this site west of 820 popped-up.  It's closer to the 49 acre size too and appears vacant.  Can someone refresh my memory on what stood on this site? https://goo.gl/maps/GaA2TFLEghRGyV9G8

 

https://aca-prod.acc...ShowInspection=

 

 

 

I wouldn't call this area River District.

[rriojas71]

Yeah that is very strange.  I can see how this happened.  I put in the address and the pin came up near Gemele's

[FunkyTownTay]

Was that a Lockheed site? I thought this was where the police academy used to be before it was moved to South Fort Worth.

[Austin55]

I know that property went before zoning fairly recently but I can't remember when or what was planned there.

[Austin55]

I know that property went before zoning fairly recently but I can't remember when or what was planned there.

 

Found it, ZC-22-084

 

[mmmdan]

Was that a Lockheed site? I thought this was where the police academy used to be before it was moved to South Fort Worth.

 

Yes, as others have said, Lockheed used to have a couple of buildings there.  Someone can correct me, but I thought that the police academy was in Northside/Panther Island.

[John T Roberts]

The Police Academy was on Calvert Street between just to the west of the confluence of the Clear and West Forks of the Trinity River.  You accessed the site by heading north on Woodward Street, which hit Henderson, just immediately east of the old intersection of White Settlement Rd. & Henderson. The academy was to the north of the old motor hotel that was on the east side of the intersection.

[Austin55]

That was fast

Edit: a couple of notes from this,

 

-The developer is the same behind the various "Magnolia" projects around the city 

-The 4500 property was dropped from the plans.

-It was noted that at one time Stratoflex was planning to leave the location they are at, but has since changed course and plans to stay. This takes away a pretty huge development site. 

[Austin55]

Case Number: ZC-23-067 
Proposed Use: Urban Residential
Request: From: E Neighborhood Commercial
To: UR Urban Residential
 

The applicant is requesting to rezone the property from E Neighborhood Commercial to UR Urban
Residential. The subject properties in total are 2.95 acres, and both are currently undeveloped. The primary
purpose of the rezoning is to place multi-family units, which the current zoning does not allow for this type of
development. Under the Urban Residential (UR) zoning, multifamily is permitted but holds special restrictions.
The applicant has provided two conceptual site plans. They intend to develop the following:
 
4570 White Settlement Rd
The proposal includes 90 four story units and 113 parking spaces. This site is located at the corner of White
Settlement Road (south of the property) and Isbell Road (east of the property).
 
4500 White Settlement Rd
The proposal includes 75 four story units and 98 parking spaces. This property is located north of White
Settlement Road (south of the property) and west of 4570 White Settlement Rd.
There are several neighborhood concerns for this project. Staff is recommending a continuance, so that the
neighborhood and applicant can continue discussions. 

 

The Zoning Commission voted to deny this change. Main reason being to preserve commercial zoning in the area. 

[Urbndwlr]

 

Case Number: ZC-23-067 
Proposed Use: Urban Residential
Request: From: E Neighborhood Commercial
To: UR Urban Residential
 

The applicant is requesting to rezone the property from E Neighborhood Commercial to UR Urban
Residential. The subject properties in total are 2.95 acres, and both are currently undeveloped. The primary
purpose of the rezoning is to place multi-family units, which the current zoning does not allow for this type of
development. Under the Urban Residential (UR) zoning, multifamily is permitted but holds special restrictions.
The applicant has provided two conceptual site plans. They intend to develop the following:
 
4570 White Settlement Rd
The proposal includes 90 four story units and 113 parking spaces. This site is located at the corner of White
Settlement Road (south of the property) and Isbell Road (east of the property).
 
4500 White Settlement Rd
The proposal includes 75 four story units and 98 parking spaces. This property is located north of White
Settlement Road (south of the property) and west of 4570 White Settlement Rd.
There are several neighborhood concerns for this project. Staff is recommending a continuance, so that the
neighborhood and applicant can continue discussions. 

 

The Zoning Commission voted to deny this change. Main reason being to preserve commercial zoning in the area. 

 

Thanks Austin55. 

Was this opposed or just Zoning Council decided wasn't appropriate? 

Was it not consistent w/ Comprehensive Plan?

 

Looking at the master plan (posted above) it appears to show:

some small retail buildings, pushed to corners of the site, with parking somewhat hidden behind the buildings (great!)

Also seems to show some freestanding yellow/orange buildings mixed in with the retail buildings.  Yellow/orange is multifamily on the master plan.  

The master plan SEEMS to show some multifamily in there so it kind of sounds like the proposed rezoning was consistent with that - no?

 

So the land remains E Neighborhood Commercial.

What can be built under that? 

Anyone who knows, can you realistically build the retail buildings as shown (at the corners, w/ parking hidden behind) or does it realistically force suburban-style "pad sites" where buildings are surrounded by parking lots? 

 

E Neighborhood Commercial appears to allow general retail which, if not mistaken, would include dollar stores & gas stations - right??

 

Was this possibly a blown call by the Zoning Commission? 

[Austin55]

-It was noted that at one time Stratoflex was planning to leave the location they are at, but has since changed course and plans to stay. This takes away a pretty huge development site. 

 

Interestingly, the Parker-Hannifin Stratoflex complex is going for a zoning change to PD. 

 

 

 

[Austin55]

More dets. It's staying industrial, but looks like the whole existing building is coming down. 

 

[Urbndwlr]

So they're demolishing the more interesting parts of the building (the concrete structure closer to Roberts Cut Off) and evidently leaving a metal shell part on the east?
If so thats too bad.  That building (at least the front/west part) could be reused for some other street-facing commercial use, and put residential such as multifamily behind.