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[Nitixope]

City Hall project files drainage study on Accela:

 

Record DS-22-0186: 

Drainage Study

Record Status: In Review

 

https://accela.fortw...ShowInspection=

 

Permit Address

100 ENERGY WAY

 

Applicant:

Licensed Professional:

Carrillo Engineering

301 Commerce Street, Ste. 1410

Fort Worth, TX, 76102

 

Project Description:

FTW City Hall

Proposed City Hall Chambers and Parking Garage

 

Owner:

CITY OF FORT WORTH TEXAS

200 TEXAS ST

FORT WORTH, TX 76102

[Austin55]

Fencing is up at the site as of today.

[John T Roberts]

Austin, the fencing was actually up by Tuesday.  I had to go to the Tarrant County Courthouse twice this week for work, so I headed back to the office on Forest Park and I saw the fencing.

[Austin55]

Glad to know it's moving forward.

[John T Roberts]

New City Hall at Pier 1 will have a Food Hall and community art.

 

https://fortworth.cu...stomer-service/

[eastfwther]

New City Hall at Pier 1 will have a Food Hall and community art.

 

https://fortworth.cu...stomer-service/

 A food hall is a bad idea.  With the exception of Legacy West in Plano and the one in downtown Dallas, most food halls around DFW have failed or are failing (Grapevine).  

[Austin55]

There's a weird line between "food hall" and "cafeteria" and "food court". The cafeteria at Cook Children's Hospital, for example, is great for employees and hospital guests, but I even stopped in fairly often when I lived nearby. Food courts at malls seem to do ok, as do some corporate cafeterias at office buildings around town. 

[eastfwther]

There's a weird line between "food hall" and "cafeteria" and "food court". The cafeteria at Cook Children's Hospital, for example, is great for employees and hospital guests, but I even stopped in fairly often when I lived nearby. Food courts at malls seem to do ok, as do some corporate cafeterias at office buildings around town. 

That's so true.  I always think "food hall" implies trendy, upscale and expensive.  But the the concept differs little than a food court, other than a bar thrown in for good measure.  

 

Harvest Hall in Grapevine is beautiful. I've been there several times and it's been never very busy, plus it's outrageously expensive! 

[Jeriat]

 

New City Hall at Pier 1 will have a Food Hall and community art.

 

https://fortworth.cu...stomer-service/

 A food hall is a bad idea.  With the exception of Legacy West in Plano and the one in downtown Dallas, most food halls around DFW have failed or are failing (Grapevine).  

 

 

. . . that's news to me, because every time I've been, it's been either packed or pretty full. 

[eastfwther]

 

 

New City Hall at Pier 1 will have a Food Hall and community art.

 

https://fortworth.cu...stomer-service/

 A food hall is a bad idea.  With the exception of Legacy West in Plano and the one in downtown Dallas, most food halls around DFW have failed or are failing (Grapevine).  

 

 

. . . that's news to me, because every time I've been, it's been either packed or pretty full. 

 

Then we've obviously gone at different times.  But the proof will be in a few years when eateries in the Grapevine food hall start closing and/or swapping out concepts...you know like most every other food hall around here has.  Because on paper, Crocket Row should have been a success.  And it did look like a success in the beginning, until it  wasn't.  Food Halls here have been a bumpy road and why you would try one in a city hall is silly imo.  But chances are  it will just be a food court/cafeteria concept and the "food hall" term is being used loosely.  I hope so. 

[Nitixope]

From Thursday's DDRB agenda:

 

https://www.fortwort...-mtg-agenda.pdf

 

DG22 – 021 100 Energy Way

Owner / Applicant: City of Fort Worth / Mark Dabney, BOKA Powell

Requests a Certificate of Appropriateness for the construction of a new council

chamber building adjacent to the future city hall. 

[Austin55]

Here is the DDRB docket for the city hall additions: https://drive.google...iew?usp=sharing

[Nitixope]

Very nice! Thanks for sharing.

[Nitixope]

Here is the DDRB docket for the city hall additions: https://drive.google...iew?usp=sharing

 

After many months of not posting DDRB meeting videos for the public to view, they are posting them online!  The first part of the 9/1/22 meeting has some staff and board introductions and they covered the DDRB staff transition plan to fill the positions for Sr. Planner and Planning Manager.  They also covered the new city hall council chambers project in this meeting:

 

https://fortworthgov...layer/clip/4918

 

 

[Dylan]

 

New City Hall at Pier 1 will have a Food Hall and community art.

 

https://fortworth.cu...stomer-service/

 A food hall is a bad idea.  With the exception of Legacy West in Plano and the one in downtown Dallas, most food halls around DFW have failed or are failing (Grapevine).  

 

 

Part of the problem for Crockett Row Food Hall is that it didn't serve a dense employment or shopping center where people need to take lunch breaks.

 

Pretty much everyone in the West 7th area (during daytime hours) is there to eat at a sit-down restaurant. People at sit-down restaurants don't take lunch breaks at food halls.

 

So, I think a food hall at City Hall will be more successful. That said, I'd prefer a food hall closer to the heart of downtown (Sundance Square / Convention Center area).

 

Hopefully, food at Fort Worth's food hall won't be as pricey as food at Grapevine's Harvest Hall.

[Austin55]

Groundbreaking this Thursday: https://www.fortwort...-groundbreaking

[John T Roberts]

I almost changed the Pier 1 listing on the main website this weekend, but I decided to hold off.  I guess I should make the change before Thursday's groundbreaking now.  I will call it the "Future City Hall" until it is finished and we get a new name for the old City Hall.

[Nitixope]

New City Hall Renovation and Expansion hit TDLR today, $88M:

https://www.tdlr.tex.../TABS2023000804

 

PROJECT

Project Name: Fort Worth City Hall

Project Number: TABS2023000804

Facility Name: Fort Worth City Hall

Location Address: 100 Pier 1 Place

Fort Worth, TX 76102

Location County: Tarrant

Start Date: 8/1/2023

Completion Date: 8/1/2024

Estimated Cost: $88,000,000

Type of Work: New Construction

Type of Funds: This project involves public funds, public land, or is a Federally funded roadway project.

Scope of Work: Renovation of existing office tower and the new construction of a city council chamber

Square Footage: 400,000 ft 2

Are the private funds provided by the tenant? No

 

OWNER

Owner Name:

City of Fort Worth

Owner Address:

 

DESIGN FIRM

Design Firm Name: BOKA Powell

[Nitixope]

From my bike ride yesterday:

[Nitixope]

New City Hall hit Accela for a new DDRB case:

 

Record DG-2022-016: 

Downtown Design Review Board

Record Status: Pending

 

https://accela.fortw...ShowInspection=

 

Project Description:

100 ENERGY WAY

NEW CITY HALL

[Nitixope]

https://accela.fortw...ShowInspection=

 

Project Description:

Fort Worth City Hall - Linbeck Group, LLC

This permit is for a job site trailer for the New City Hall project // fee exempt

[Austin55]

FWR reports that the new chambers will not be ready this year. 

 

https://fortworthrep...itting-process/

[Volare]

FWR reports that the new chambers will not be ready this year. 

 

https://fortworthrep...itting-process/

 

Oh the irony. The City now gets to see how bureaucracy stands in the way of progress.

[Nitixope]

I'm not saying Pier One would make a bad city hall, but they were so quick to pull the trigger on the purchase perhaps some of these factors should have been looked at a little bit closer like through feasibility studies.  It seems like there's a reactionary form of consultancy where they hire consultants after the trigger has been pulled to sort out the details rather than to consult about the details that could impact a project before the deal is made.

[JBB]

There's something that's been off about this from the start and I have a strong feeling that it will be an expensive mess in the end.

[John T Roberts]

Building near the river always has its problems.  If you go back and look at Historicaerials.com, you can see that the original river channel ran extremely close to where the new City Council Chambers is proposed to be built.

[Nitixope]

Would this be too progressive for the council chambers?

 

[ramjet]

Would this be too progressive for the council chambers?

 

 

LOL.  This made me spit up my cocktail.  I think the City of Austin would love it...!

[Crestline]

FWR reports that the new chambers will not be ready this year. 

 

https://fortworthrep...itting-process/

 

Somebody screwed up in deed recording or title research during the last eighty years to cause this delay! Could make for a good law school hypothetical someday, if the city were to litigate the validity of the discovered floodway easement, but sounds like they've found a way to move forward without that hassle.

[Nitixope]

Record PB23-01029: 

Commercial Remodel Building Permit

Record Status: Pending

 

Permit Address

100 ENERGY WAY

 

Project Description:

Linbeck Group, LLC

Non-structural demolition of 7 floors at approximately 175,000 sq. ft.(FLOORS 5 THROUGH 9, 12TH AND 14TH)-NO C.O. TO BE ISSUED