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[elpingüino]

Thought we could start a place to compile news about the new subdivisions in Fort Worth that on their own may not merit an individual thread.

Rocky Creek Crossing off of Old Granbury Road, estimated to begin delivering in summer 2023.
800-lot residential development catering to entry-level home buyers is heading to south Fort Worth

[elpingüino]

Bonds Ranch Rio Claro on about 706 acres south of Bonds Ranch Road, east of Morris Dido Newark Road
Massive 2,000-lot residential project is inbound near AllianceTexas

[John T Roberts]

If you want to see the actual plats and neighborhood layouts that have been approved, you can go to the City of Fort Worth Plat Directory.  It shows the layout of all of the approved plats from recent times.  It is searchable for earlier dates than the past 30 days. Here is the link: http://apps.fortwort.../platdirectory/

[steave]

Something I wish was more common were smaller subdivisions that didn't have large and expensive HOA's. Parks and other features ought to be handled by a local government.

[elpingüino]

More from the Dallas Business Journal this week, here's Chisholm Trail Ranch south of McPherson, west of CTP. We've covered the Chisholm Trail Ranch shopping development elsewhere in the forum so I guess this is the residential portion.
New 490 homesite community on the way near Chisholm Trail Parkway

[John T Roberts]

Here's the plat of the addition, along with the street addresses:

 

http://apps.fortwort...s/FP-21-074.pdf

[gdvanc]

Should be Longhorn Trail, I think. Longhorn Road is north of 820, right? Get it right, DR Horton.

 

"Owner Initiated Full-Purpose Annexation": Does this mean it is unincorporated county land and they're asking the city to annex it and run water/sewer out to it, provide emergency services, etc? Who pays what? What's in it for the city?

[John T Roberts]

It is Longhorn Trail down south where this annexation and development is located.  Longhorn Road is north of 820.  Owner initiated means that the owner is asking the city to annex their land.  I don't know if the owner is going to pay for the infrastructure, but after it is built, it will be up to the city to maintain.  The city will also provide emergency services.  If you ask what is in it for the city, the only thing I could think of is the tax revenue.

[Austin55]

Not subdivions in a typical sense but there are interesting and rather dense projects in suburban areas in this month's zoning docket. 

1300 Bonds Ranch Road
Reccomended for approval 

Total Units: 196 units

Density: ±6.7 du/ac


 

[Dylan]

These are basically extra-low density apartment complexes.

[RD Milhollin]

Nailed-down trailer park?

[steave]

I want to say I've seen stuff like this in College Station and San Marcos but meant for students. I am not fond of having all that common space and the maintenance fees and annoying rules that probably comes with. No real advantage over an apartment if you ask me.

 

In the 1980s in Houston they built a lot of cheap small housing but at least it had a small fenced yard.

 

Also what ever happened to duplex neighborhoods? You get to live in and potentially own a "home" which has a yard and everything and it's like a conventional subdivision, but it's smaller and cheaper.

[JBB]

Duplex developments from the 70s and 80s haven't really aged all that well.

[Doohickie]

Nailed-down trailer park?

I would not be shocked if this housing stock was assembled offsite and came in on trailers.

[steave]

On the subject of those cottages possibly being modular or prefab, doesn't that seem like an interesting approach? A lot of people wouldn't buy a trailer or a modular home for various reasons but if they could be put together at scale for a rental community maybe it would work.

 

I've always wondered about manufactured housing. It has such a bad reputation. But it's also a good idea, its more efficient and cheaper and faster to construct. If it could be upgraded a little and improved its reputation it could solve a lot of issues.

[steave]

Hopefully neighborhood NIMBY's can be shut down, there a housing shortage and this is needed:

 

https://fortworthrep...o-neighborhood/

 

I think, to be generous, the people complaining about this are all of an older generation that became homeowners in an era when any reasonably hard working person with a moderately skilled job or education could buy one of those small 1970s ranch houses or early 2000s Centex Homes plywood boxes. That's not how the world works anymore.

[steave]

I think the city needs to realign the roads in the area that is proposed before too much gets built and getting ROW is impossible. It would create more useful tracts of land and help with traffic flow.

[hannerhan]

Very interesting rendering above, primarily because it shows a re-routing of Boat Club Road just north of Lake Country. As fast as this area is growing, that seems like a great solution to the increased traffic down by the lake on that road. Can anyone find more details on this?

 

If they just took a 4 lane version of Boat Club straight north from that point and hooked it into Bonds Ranch (about 3 miles up), that would make it much easier to get around up there. The existing Boat Club section there is 2 lanes and I don't see any easy way that they could ever expand it between Lake Country and Bonds Ranch.

[John T Roberts]

If you look at the City's Master Thoroughfare Plan, not only are they planning to take Boat Club Road straight north to Bonds Ranch, it will go all the way north to FM 718.  This northern extension will be named Fleming Ranch Road.  The east/west section that eventually curves back to the north will connect to Heritage Trace Parkway.  That connection is already under construction.  The City's Interactive Map now has the 2022 Aerial Photographs loaded on the site, and you can see the road work underway in the area.  Below is the link:

 

https://mapit.fortwo.../?viewer=zoning

[steave]

Are these cottage developments being built in areas where apartments couldn't otherwise be built, or are they taking up land that's zoned for (much denser) multifamily?

[steave]

 

Are these cottage developments being built in areas where apartments couldn't otherwise be built, or are they taking up land that's zoned for (much denser) multifamily?

 

steave,

 

Not sure the answer to that one but I'd be curious to look at how the ownership works in these communities.  I get the impression some subdivisions are sold to individual buyers with an HOA in place and others are Built to Lease or Build to Rent.  "Rents like an apartment, lives like a home."  I would almost like to see this more as lease/rent only because in 30-years when these communities start to show their age, you would hope that there are still some standards in-place for maintenance.

 

https://www.nbcdfw.c...R)" communities.

 

 

They'll just be run down like all the awkward 80s townhouse/patio home subdivisions in Houston around Beltway 8. Same economic conditions then as now - housing shortage, rising high interest rates. When I lived there my friend bought one in Alief (Asian dude) and it needed a lot of work. Carpet in the bathroom around the toilet . My aunt and uncle lived in the 1980s version of one of these cottage developments when I was growing up, in the Inwood area (north of 290 and south of the Beltway but west of 249. It was kind of cool when I was a kid but nowadays that is the hood. Also my old workplace was close to something called Pine Village North in the East Aldine area, that place was a dump taken over by criminals. It was townhouses sold to old people who all got screwed as outside investors bought it and put in renters and then deferred maintenance and removed amenities. A lot of the units are burned out or foundation slabs now, but people still live there.

 

That said I opposing NIMBYing them. Cities need a spectrum of housing options including basic housing for people at the bottom of the income scale. It's the job of things like schools and police and community services to keep areas from turning into slums, turning away development to segregate by income is wrong. I think Fort Worth will do a better job than Houston in the dirty 1990s... I hope... Fort Worth keeps annexing it could get too big and have the same issues Houston did.

[elpingüino]

1,914 homes near Eagle Mountain Lake at Morris Dido Newark Road and Bonds Ranch Road.

https://www.star-tel...l#storylink=cpy

[JBB]

Gross.  I wouldn't expect anything different, but that is a lot of houses that will cost the city far more than they generate in tax revenue.  But, hey, all develop is good development, right?  

[gdvanc]

Keep building! We'll show Charlotte who's really #12.

[johnfwd]

I don't frequent Eagle Mountain Lake but have been there occasionally to swim or to dine at one of the restaurants overlooking the lake.  I have a friend who lives in one of the palatial-style homes in the area.  Nice area, but it will be crowded in the future.  I can understand why more people will want to live near the lake.

[JBB]

I had no idea rates had jumped up that high.  I don't know how people are affording houses right now given the value increases.

 

I have a friend that's a home inspector and, when I talked to him a week or so ago, he said that the hot market is killing his business because of the lack of inventory and volume.  Houses are selling fast and at high prices, but there's not many of them.  That makes me think that new developments still have a chance to move forward.  Rising rates, higher inventory, and lower materials costs would seem like some of the keys to getting prices under control.  The labor market is sort of the wild card.  I don't think there's any magic fix to that or any light at the end of the tunnel.