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#1 RD Milhollin

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Posted 18 July 2016 - 08:11 AM

I am interested in the stance Fort Worth Council Member Cary Moon is advancing regarding the permitting of high density residential apartments in his district in particular, and the city in general.

 

http://www.star-tele...le90046652.html

 

I would like to know more about the particulars of his vision though, especially if it would support existing city initiatives like urban villages and city dreams like transit oriented development. On the one hand, I have to applaud his attempt to proactively prevent another Woodhaven apartment enclave from being developed somewhere else in the city. But I would like to know if the ultimate failure of that sort of development has been thoroughly studied by professionals and if Moon's ideas are in agreement with what such a study would recommend. Has the UTA Institute of Urban Studies ever looked into this? I also applaud the ideas cited in the article of separating apartment developments from single family, but I believe that parks and green space can effectively provide that separation. I am somewhat worried by what appears to be a desire to permit multifamily primarily adjacent to industrial areas; preventing this sort of arrangement was what prompted urban zoning in the first place more than a century ago. I see nothing in the article about mixed-use zoning, the type that allows retail and office to coexist in the same building with residential, and a district in which this sort of sustainable arrangement is allowed and even encouraged. I am worried about his assertion that "best use" for a large tract of land in the Mercantile development near I-820 Wright and Beach Street is high density residential, especially in the light of a distinct lack of infrastructure and services identified in the article. Locating this sort of project a mile from a future commuter station and calling it TOD shows a glaring lack of knowledge of what makes that sort of development work.



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Posted 24 August 2016 - 01:39 PM

Maybe he is thinking that we don't want to encourage MF development in locations where it is very unlikely to have transit.

I suspect it is a response to what the neighborhood residents are calling for as they have seen decades of examples of cheaply built MF projects that have deteriorated and wind up negatively impacting the long term values of the single family districts around them. 

 

So, perhaps some good old fashioned NIMBYism, combined with some sound judgment. 

 

North Fort Worth will need housing diversity though and should have someplace where the higher density, rental housing exists.  Perhaps around retail such as Alliance Town Center. 

 

Frankly, Far North Fort Worth and surrounding municipalities are so poorly laid out that it depresses me.  Cells of residential, cells of commercial, cells of industrial, etc.  Have to drive for every trip.  I think the City planners have been attempting to make marginal improvements (sidewalks, more points of connections between residential neighborhoods so every trip doesn't dump cars onto arterials, etc.) but, sadly, Far North Fort Worth, Saginaw, Blue Mound, Keller, Trophy Club, etc, do not seem to be even openly aiming for an improvement to the status quo. 

 

On the other hand, I'm optimistic about the INSIDE the loop portions of Fort Worth, where there is a prevailing preference for more walkable places. 



#3 Austin55

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Posted 04 January 2021 - 01:09 PM

In both the DMN and ST today

 

 

A moratorium on new apartments? Some Fort Worth city leaders think the city’s over-saturated
https://www.dallasne...over-saturated/

 

 

Does Fort Worth have too many apartments? Council members want moratorium on rezoning

https://www.star-tel...e248147240.html



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Posted 04 January 2021 - 01:45 PM

In both the DMN and ST today

 

 

A moratorium on new apartments? Some Fort Worth city leaders think the city’s over-saturated
https://www.dallasne...over-saturated/

 

 

Does Fort Worth have too many apartments? Council members want moratorium on rezoning

https://www.star-tel...e248147240.html

 

:mad:  :angry2:  :cry:



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Posted 04 January 2021 - 03:17 PM

After reading the articles, from what I'm seeing, it's mostly urban built apartments in NON urban areas they're talking about... which makes sense, but it needs to be worded better. 

Alliance shouldn't be seeing the same kinds of developments that Near Southside and West 7th are getting. 


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#6 JBB

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Posted 04 January 2021 - 05:28 PM

Call me crazy, but is there any evidence that is actually happening? I do not spend much time in the Alliance area, but I dont recall seeing anything other than typical suburban schlock.

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Posted 04 January 2021 - 05:53 PM

In both the DMN and ST today
 
 
A moratorium on new apartments? Some Fort Worth city leaders think the citys over-saturated
https://www.dallasne...over-saturated/
 
 
Does Fort Worth have too many apartments? Council members want moratorium on rezoning
https://www.star-tel...e248147240.html


It appears to be the same article, written by Luke Ranker and then reprinted by the DMN. The ST headline is more accurate -- they're not requesting a moratorium on any new apartments, but on rezoning properties that aren't already zoned for multifamily.

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Posted 04 January 2021 - 08:11 PM

Call me crazy, but is there any evidence that is actually happening? I do not spend much time in the Alliance area, but I dont recall seeing anything other than typical suburban schlock.

Solea Keller and Westhouse (also in Keller) and the planned North City project.

And The Holston as well.

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Posted 06 January 2021 - 03:50 PM

 

Call me crazy, but is there any evidence that is actually happening? I do not spend much time in the Alliance area, but I dont recall seeing anything other than typical suburban schlock.

Solea Keller and Westhouse (also in Keller) and the planned North City project.

And The Holston as well.

 

The Holston and Westhouse appear (from aerials) to be in reasonable locations - on major thoroughfares, that either are or could be served by bus transit, and within reasonable walking distance of either existing or future commercial land. 

Soleo is a bit less-so. 

 

We do need more dense housing in North FW that will be

walkable, cycleable and/or easily served by transit within 1 mile of:

- retail,

- higher density employment

- parks

- schools

.... even if the walkable destinations don't yet exist - have to envision a more connected future and plan/build accordingly, even if in short term it isnt used that way.  Its the only way to start. 

And our citizens have to understand that this doesn't depend on the occupants walking/cylcing/using transit to get everywhere.  Its about making it possible and comfortable.

 

A related topic is how to make employment locations in places like Alliance more easily reached on foot/by bike. 

Front doors closer to streets, sidewalks, and cycle paths.  Clear marking to protect people from large trucks which frequent those roads.

Again lets not let the perfect become the enemy of the good.

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Those two you mentioned as located in Keller are in fact located in Fort Worth.  (sidebar for another thread - we need a clearer geographic brand name for the parts of North FW that are within Keller ISD since North FW isnt specific enough and Keller just isnt correct). 



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Posted 06 January 2021 - 04:51 PM

I've slept since I read the article, but I though the underlying concern was that because because of certain pressures, like C19, that some possibly good-for-the-long-term uses of property might through zoning changes be shifted to lower risk in-the-moment uses like apartments.  It is the responsibility of the developer to maximize the value of their property, but it is the responsibility of the city to look further out and make certain that it fulfills the long-term best interests of the city community as a whole.  Sometimes those are in direct alignment, and sometimes they are not.



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Posted 13 January 2021 - 07:22 AM

City Council seems to be willing to pause rezoning for new developments at least until the market study is done. Yesterday, Council voted unanimously to continue two big rezoning cases on I-35W until mid February. https://www.star-tel...e248446090.html

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Posted 13 January 2021 - 06:11 PM

To be honest, I'm not opposed to the hiatus on up-zoning for apartment complexes in low-density suburban areas with minimal transit.

 

Perhaps it will encourage developers to look at developing in urban areas with better public transit (Near Southside, Panther Island, etc.) instead.


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