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#151 JBB

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Posted 03 March 2020 - 05:17 PM

I like the overall plan, but I'm not crazy about the Paddock Park fountain just yet.  Maybe it's just that rendering, but I'm afraid it is a little overwhelming and will draw the eye away from the courthouse.



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Posted 03 March 2020 - 05:24 PM

I like the overall plan, but I'm not crazy about the Paddock Park fountain just yet.  Maybe it's just that rendering, but I'm afraid it is a little overwhelming and will draw the eye away from the courthouse.

I think it will actually draw the courthouse into the park since the courthouse may have a reflection in the water.



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Posted 04 March 2020 - 08:50 AM

at this pace by 2025 the city will have spent nearly $100M between this "staircase" to the river/panther island and the hemphill-lamar connector.

 

it's amazing what our city can magically find money for

 

(remember when transit advocates were told $80M for a streetcar starter system was ludicrous?)

 

$40M for this park/plaza when Z-Boaz is still primarily an open field when the golf course has been closed since 2015 with the promise of a fully developed park to come? Or what the city has also done/proposed for Sycamore Creek... I'm not saying the golf courses were necessarily what should have remained, but it's utterly laughable to me how the city will close assets, like parks or public pools, with a "coming soon" promise yet never deliver while also coming up with beaucoup funds for what could easily be labeled vanity projects.

I'd love to see Heritage Park restored and reopened after it's long neglect, but this seems like gilding the lily and encrusting it with diamonds.



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Posted 04 March 2020 - 10:17 AM

Having had 24 hours to digest this, I would not disapprove if the cascading water/stairs/ramps were to be ditched.

 

Keeping the Main Street/ Belknap/Fountain configuration would be the completion of all the sides of Courthouse Plaza; and that component of the project should go forward.  It would also likely amount to a reduction in cost.



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Posted 04 March 2020 - 10:17 AM

Just hitting me that I started this topic originally, and that was TWELVE YEARS AGO :0 

 

And if the opening date is hit it'll be 16 years the park was closed. Dang.

 

I really hope y'all can make this happen, finally. A Halprin park is a gem that should be held on to - he was one of the best of his era.

 

Here in Portland we're in the tail end of a restoration of an entire multiblock Halprin design, the Portland Open Space Sequence, comprised of the Source Fountain, the Lovejoy Fountain Park, the Keller Fountain Park, Pettygrove Park, and associated design bits linking the sequence. It's a beautiful piece of design and downtown PDX would be poorer if it was gone. I so hope Heritage Park can make a comeback.

 

PDX city gov's page: https://www.portland.../article/688089

 

Halprin page (somewhat out-of-date as it was written before the restoration project): https://tclf.org/sit...y/portland.html

 

EDIT: if curious, the restoration project cost about $4 million, so definitely not on the same scale. All that needed to happen was restoring all the works in place. None had decayed so much, and there was no need to do any larger rearranging of streets/sidewalks/etc. around them.


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Posted 04 March 2020 - 10:40 AM

Hmmm dumb question time:  As a 35 year city resident, where would I park my car ?

Real question is " Public Entry Access to park"


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Posted 04 March 2020 - 10:58 AM

Hmmm dumb question time:  As a 35 year city resident, where would I park my car ?

Real question is " Public Entry Access to park"

 

It's downtown, so there are plenty of garages (and sadly since this is still a Sunbelt city, surface lots) nearby. 


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Posted 04 March 2020 - 12:03 PM

 

Hmmm dumb question time:  As a 35 year city resident, where would I park my car ?

Real question is " Public Entry Access to park"

 

It's downtown, so there are plenty of garages (and sadly since this is still a Sunbelt city, surface lots) nearby. 

 

 

 Yes sir, that is the soooo true. 

 

 For a moment, I even thought that the ramp is a nod towards foot traffic, but having to cross both Weatherford and Belknap Streets will be a challenge unless both are calmed down to a degree.



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Posted 04 March 2020 - 07:17 PM

Here is the website with a couple renderings and details,

https://www.dfwi.org/go/hp

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Posted 04 March 2020 - 09:56 PM

Do you agree that the park has a feel of the Water Gardens about it?



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Posted 05 March 2020 - 12:11 AM

 
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This picture looks like they are planning some work to the eastern side of the bridge as well. Looks like there are criss-crossing paths reminiscent of the ones on the western side

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Posted 13 May 2020 - 01:47 PM

Does anyone know what is happening with the Heritage Park Renovation project?  I have seen plan and ideas from before, but was curious what is happening and who is doing it.  



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Posted 13 May 2020 - 02:17 PM

Here's the most recent discussion in the active thread on the topic:

 

http://www.fortworth...pic=2839&page=3

 

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Posted 13 May 2020 - 02:29 PM

My apologies.  I didn't see it.

 

Thank you.



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Posted 13 May 2020 - 02:35 PM

Welcome.  You have found the place to post and to read anything Fort Worth and More.   I hope you enjoy being here and will post frequently. :)



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Posted 13 May 2020 - 02:58 PM

Welcome to the forum!



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Posted 13 May 2020 - 04:01 PM

My apologies.  I didn't see it.

 

Thank you.

 

No apologies necessary.  It was kind of in a weird spot where it would have been hard to find.



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Posted 13 May 2020 - 04:56 PM

Thank you all very much.  Glad to be here.  



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Posted 28 May 2020 - 10:17 AM

The Request for Qualifications for Design and Engineering Services for this project came out this morning. https://www.dfwi.org...5-27-2final.pdf.  Recapturing this area will be wonderful for Fort Worth.  Hopefully the decision makers are open to considering new ideas and teams and not just picking up where it was left. I like what has been done so far, but I have higher expectations for what this should be given the significance of the space and those originally behind it (Ruth Carter Stevenson, Streams and Valleys).  It may just be the drawings, but Paddock looks like a lot of brick and an water feature that is too big.  This area needs organization; a plaza that connects downtown and the courthouse to the river and the north, a restoration of Heritage Park that brings Halprin's work back to life and showcases what was put in place and an elegant pedestrian connection to the river that is beautiful and functional, does not try to overpower the whole project. Just my thoughts.



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Posted 29 May 2020 - 04:23 PM

you have my vote to head this effort, sir.



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Posted 14 April 2021 - 12:18 PM

Join us for a Heritage Park Public Meeting
 
Be a part of the future for Heritage Park! Join us next week for a virtual public meeting to learn more and give your feedback on the reopening and revitalization of this historic site.
 
April 20, 2021, at 5:30 PM - Register here 
 
April 21, 2021, at 12 PM - Register here 
 
April 21, 2021, at 5:30 PM - Register here 
 
Registration is required to receive a meeting link.


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Posted 21 April 2021 - 10:38 AM

 

Join us for a Heritage Park Public Meeting
 
Be a part of the future for Heritage Park! Join us next week for a virtual public meeting to learn more and give your feedback on the reopening and revitalization of this historic site.
 
April 20, 2021, at 5:30 PM - Register here 
 
April 21, 2021, at 12 PM - Register here 
 
April 21, 2021, at 5:30 PM - Register here 
 
Registration is required to receive a meeting link.

 

Public meetings also include Paddock Park.  Here's an update from FWBP.

 

https://fortworthbus...-park-projects/



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Posted 21 April 2021 - 07:50 PM

I attended the virtual public meeting and it was pretty interesting.  Not much different from what we've discussed on here but they just went into some final design proposals and asked for input from the public to see what things were important.  They are shooting for a 2024 date to be done with it.  The opening would coincide with FW's 175th birthday.  



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Posted 21 April 2021 - 09:50 PM

I attended the virtual public meeting and it was pretty interesting.  Not much different from what we've discussed on here but they just went into some final design proposals and asked for input from the public to see what things were important.  They are shooting for a 2024 date to be done with it.  The opening would coincide with FW's 175th birthday.  


CBS 11 did a nice piece the other day interviewing Andy Taft.

https://dfw.cbslocal...-heritage-park/



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Posted 22 April 2021 - 07:39 AM

You can view a presentation and take a survey regarding this here: https://migcom.typef...com/to/BcJ8IFdj



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Posted 27 January 2022 - 09:46 PM

FW Public Art is working on an installation at the park. From the agenda,

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Link to Legge Lewis Legge's portfolio.



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Posted 27 January 2022 - 11:18 PM

"Due to the fast pace of the park improvement project..."

 

Did they throw that in there to make a funny or just to see if everyone was really paying attention?  George W. Bush was president when the park was last open.  I don't think there's any fast pace happening.



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Posted 06 August 2022 - 07:33 AM

I have combined all of the Heritage Park threads and moved them here.



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Posted 29 September 2022 - 05:50 PM

From next week's council worksession,

 

Briefing on Heritage Park - Andy Taft, Downtown Fort Worth, Inc.; Christopher Beynon, MIG; and Martha Peters, Arts Fort Worth



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Posted 29 September 2022 - 06:55 PM

"Due to the fast pace of the park improvement project..."
 



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Posted 04 October 2022 - 04:21 PM

New renderings of the park and description of the changes are on the DFWI page: https://www.dfwi.org/go/hp

 

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These are the same renderings show to City Council today. 

Below are updated timelines and budget slides, 

 

 

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Posted 04 October 2022 - 05:15 PM

So, if they meet this schedule, it will only be about nineteen (19) years from closing the park to re-opening it. The Fort Worth Way.



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Posted 04 October 2022 - 08:01 PM

You have a lot more confidence in their ability to even come close to hitting that timeline than I do.



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Posted 04 October 2022 - 09:03 PM

$34 million wow!  Is all the money available?



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Posted 06 October 2022 - 05:58 AM

Star-Telegram update:
2 revamped parks will reshape the feel of downtown Fort Worth

Heritage Park Balcony:
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Heritage Park Canopy:
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Paddock Park:
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Posted 06 October 2022 - 06:11 AM

I'm glad to see progress for the project, but I think it is a little odd it took decades and scoping the project up 8x as expensive to gain attention and funding compared to just restoring the core park.

 

Perhaps we should be thinking bigger about other neglected projects in the city.



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Posted 06 October 2022 - 07:15 AM

So, if they meet this schedule, it will only be about nineteen (19) years from closing the park to re-opening it. The Fort Worth Way.

 

I'm sure they could do a few more years of committees and studies!



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Posted 06 October 2022 - 09:02 AM

I'm glad to see progress for the project, but I think it is a little odd it took decades and scoping the project up 8x as expensive to gain attention and funding compared to just restoring the core park.

 

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