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[Austin55]

Hoping for an announcement soon on construction to the Mistletoe/Near Southside/Medical District Station. The microsite lists "Early 2024" as a start date. 

 

https://ridetrinitym...6-5d744d35-bcf9

[Doohickie]

It would be fantastic if the extension to Berry was done in the time frame you say.  For the record, I would be much happier if it were extended to I-20/Granbury Rd.

I would probably use both stations from my house:  Granbury is closer, but the #6 bus stop is a 5 minute walk from my house and would take me right to the Berry Street station.

[Austin55]

I was listening the board meeting and they said single day ridership records occured in back to back days in December. The day of the Sundance tree lighting had over 5,000, and then the record was broken the next day during a Grapevine event which garnered over 6k riders. 

[FunkyTownTay]

Am I right in thinking that after the connection to the medical district is complete, the next several stations going south will be quite a bit "easier/cheaper" to connect? Getting the 2 miles from T&P to the medical district has several significant hurdles, but after that it seems like much smoother sailing going several miles further down the line.  If I'm thinking through it correctly, even if they wanted to double track the whole line, there would be no more tunneling necessary and the needs would be:

• TCU station won't require any new bridges or tunnels (maybe one small creek crossing bridge immediately south of the Medical District Station)
• Granbury Rd Station would require 3 bridges (Trail Lake and both sides of the I-20 access road)
• Summer Creek Station would require 1 bridge over Alta Mesa. (I think there is enough room for extra tracks under Chisolm Trail Parkway)

[JBB]

I would say that the line south of Rosedale isn't all that dissimilar to the construction of the existing line north and east of Sylvania.  On top of the bridges you mentioned, there are a lot of grade crossings and securing those as quiet crossings seemed like the most time consuming portion of the work through Haltom City, North Richland Hills, Colleyville, and Grapevine.

[Austin55]

At one point the Environmental Impact Study for the entire line (all the way to Sycamore School) was online. I can't find it now, wondering if anyone saved a copy?

 

Anyway, I seem to remember that design had a pretty complicated section over the FWWR yard off 8th south of Windsor that required the TEXRail tracks to be elevated over the yard. But it's been years since I've seen those drawings so I might be off. 

[Electricron]

Almost all links for SW2NE studies are broken today. I did find a pdf back in 2009 for an early public information presentation, more about the process and alternates studied, long before the 10% or 30% engineering drawings. Not much to learn from it.  Sorry I couldn't find more.

If my memory is correct, they never finished the 30% engineering drawings for southwest Fort Worth, which would have the drawings you want. By that time they had dropped the southwest leg and started concentrating on the northeast leg. That's about the same time they changed the name for the project to TexRail. 

I was under the impression they were going to route around the 8th Street yard, not over it. But both options might have still been possible when they decided to drop it because they lacked money at the time to build it. south.

They will probably have to do an entirely new study, uprade new engineering drawings, and hold more public meetings before going further south now. 

[txbornviking]

 a surprisingly large portion of a projects cost is just getting things up-and-ready for construction etc... bidding and constructing a contribution from the medical district to Berry etc at the same time as that project is underway would save big money in the long run, not to mention saving money because you avoid the natural cost increases due to time inflation.... but it just ain't gonna happen sadly

[Stadtplan]

At one point the Environmental Impact Study for the entire line (all the way to Sycamore School) was online. I can't find it now, wondering if anyone saved a copy?

 

Anyway, I seem to remember that design had a pretty complicated section over the FWWR yard off 8th south of Windsor that required the TEXRail tracks to be elevated over the yard. But it's been years since I've seen those drawings so I might be off. 

 

Here's a scanned copy of the DEIS.  Kind of interesting with all the notes and stuff handwritten on it:

https://books.google...bI0wfW-Ahepb9ic

[Electricron]

Here's a scanned copy of the DEIS.  Kind of interesting with all the notes and stuff handwritten on it:

https://books.google...bI0wfW-Ahepb9ic

 

Sad to say that link did not work for me. 

[Stadtplan]

 

Here's a scanned copy of the DEIS.  Kind of interesting with all the notes and stuff handwritten on it:

https://books.google...bI0wfW-Ahepb9ic

 

Sad to say that link did not work for me. 

 

 

Electricron,

Try this method...

 

1) Go to Google Books search tool:

https://books.google.com/books

 

2) At the top of the page search bar / main search bar, enter this search criteria verbatim with the " "

 

"www.the-t.com" SW2NE

 

 

 

3) There should only be one result, which is this document.  

 

 

4) Open the document link and then click the three stacked dots menu dropdown button and choose "Download PDF" and you should be good to save it to your drive for future reference or just use the google viewer online to browse.  It's several hundred pages and google books jumps to that specific search result deep in the file.

 

[Electricron]

Sorry, I use Microsoft Edge as my browser, and I do not use Google Books. 

And I am not going to spend another half hour to an hour downloading them and creating a new Google Account to use them.

[Stadtplan]

Sorry, I use Microsoft Edge as my browser, and I do not use Google Books. 

And I am not going to spend another half hour to an hour downloading them and creating a new Google Account to use them.

 

Did you try it in Edge?  I tried it on my computer and Google still works in Edge (Private Mode).  Google Books is simply a function of the Google search engine, no account required. 

[Crestline]

1) Go to Google Books search tool:

https://books.google.com/books

 

2) At the top of the page search bar / main search bar, enter this search criteria verbatim with the " "

 

"www.the-t.com" SW2NE

 

...

 

3) There should only be one result, which is this document.  

 

...

 

4) Open the document link and then click the three stacked dots menu dropdown button and choose "Download PDF" and you should be good to save it to your drive for future reference or just use the google viewer online to browse.  It's several hundred pages and google books jumps to that specific search result deep in the file.

 

...

 

I was able to follow these instructions to access the PDF using the Safari browser in a private browsing window, no account required.

[txbornviking]

I'm like 95% positive years ago I went through bounded versions of all of these documents at the Fort Worth library branch that has since been closed by La Gran Plaza.

 

Similarly I found transit studies at the Central Library looking at options to extend the Tandy Subway, and other rail based studies from the 1970s, 1990s, and early 2000's.

[Stadtplan]

I'm like 95% positive years ago I went through bounded versions of all of these documents at the Fort Worth library branch that has since been closed by La Gran Plaza.

 

Similarly I found transit studies at the Central Library looking at options to extend the Tandy Subway, and other rail based studies from the 1970s, 1990s, and early 2000's.

 

Oh, they now call that branch the Fort Worth History Center.

https://www.fortwort...y/branches/fwhc

 

Check this out if you have a minute:

http://www.fortworth...84coll20/search

 

(Map-based version)

http://www.fortworth...on/p16084coll20

[Stadtplan]

Hoping for an announcement soon on construction to the Mistletoe/Near Southside/Medical District Station. The microsite lists "Early 2024" as a start date. 

 

https://ridetrinitym...6-5d744d35-bcf9

 

I was trying to figure out if and where this rendering was already posted on this thread of the new station and surrounding development but I'll go ahead and post it again since I missed finding it. 

It's the TIF 4 presentation: https://www.fortwort...nual-report.pdf

 

 

[Stadtplan]

 

Hoping for an announcement soon on construction to the Mistletoe/Near Southside/Medical District Station. The microsite lists "Early 2024" as a start date. 

 

https://ridetrinitym...6-5d744d35-bcf9

 

I was trying to figure out if and where this rendering was already posted on this thread of the new station and surrounding development but I'll go ahead and post it again since I missed finding it. 

It's the TIF 4 presentation: https://www.fortwort...nual-report.pdf

 

 

 

 

Here's a better quality image:

[Austin55]

TEXRail is getting four new trains to support the upcoming extension. 

 

https://communityimp...express-trains/

[Electricron]

Look like TRE will also be upgraded. 

as was discussed in the TRE thread. Do we need to discuss everything in every thread?

[Doohickie]

 

Look like TRE will also be upgraded. 

as was discussed in the TRE thread. Do we need to discuss everything in every thread?

 

Yes.     

[Electricron]

 

 

Look like TRE will also be upgraded. 

as was discussed in the TRE thread. Do we need to discuss everything in every thread?

 

Yes.   

 

Really?

What do you think about Amtrak buying 83 new Siemens Venture trainsets with ALC42E locomotives for the Northeast Corridor?

What about Arrow train in San Bernandino buying a Hydrogen powered FLIRT?

What about the O-Train in Ottawa buying 4 Diesel powered FLIRTs?

What about Amtrak California on San Jose buying at least 4 Hydrogen powered FLIRTs.

What about Metra in Chicago buying 8, and possibly another 8, Battery powered FLIRTs?

I can add more that has nothing to do with TexRail, but do you get my point now?

If we can discuss everything in one thread, why have more than one thread?

TexRail does have Diesel powered FLIRTs, so is it all related?

[Shanedallas76]

 

 

 

Look like TRE will also be upgraded. 

as was discussed in the TRE thread. Do we need to discuss everything in every thread?

 

Yes.   

 

Really?

What do you think about Amtrak buying 83 new Siemens Venture trainsets with ALC42E locomotives for the Northeast Corridor?

What about Arrow train in San Bernandino buying a Hydrogen powered FLIRT?

What about the O-Train in Ottawa buying 4 Diesel powered FLIRTs?

What about Amtrak California on San Jose buying at least 4 Hydrogen powered FLIRTs.

What about Metra in Chicago buying 8, and possibly another 8, Battery powered FLIRTs?

I can add more that has nothing to do with TexRail, but do you get my point now?

If we can discuss everything in one thread, why have more than one thread?

TexRail does have Diesel powered FLIRTs, so is it all related?

 

 

I deleted my thread. Sorry.

[JBB]

Seriously?  It was a one sentence post that no one else had responded to, right?  I guess as long as the guy who only posts in one section of the forum about once every other week doesn't get triggered, we're all gonna be okay.

[Doohickie]

 

 

 

Look like TRE will also be upgraded. 

as was discussed in the TRE thread. Do we need to discuss everything in every thread?

 

Yes.   

 

Really?

What do you think about Amtrak buying 83 new Siemens Venture trainsets with ALC42E locomotives for the Northeast Corridor?

What about Arrow train in San Bernandino buying a Hydrogen powered FLIRT?

What about the O-Train in Ottawa buying 4 Diesel powered FLIRTs?

What about Amtrak California on San Jose buying at least 4 Hydrogen powered FLIRTs.

What about Metra in Chicago buying 8, and possibly another 8, Battery powered FLIRTs?

I can add more that has nothing to do with TexRail, but do you get my point now?

If we can discuss everything in one thread, why have more than one thread?

TexRail does have Diesel powered FLIRTs, so is it all related?

 

Yes.  Tell me more.

 

You would think the smiley face would have tipped off that I was just kidding but I guess not.

 

Sheesh.

[Dylan]

What in the world...

The TRE and TEXRail are related... they share a mile or so of track and two stations.

The anger over someone mentioning the TRE is baffling.

[Dylan]

I was listening the board meeting and they said single day ridership records occured in back to back days in December. The day of the Sundance tree lighting had over 5,000, and then the record was broken the next day during a Grapevine event which garnered over 6k riders. 

Uh... TEXRail reached 10,477 passengers on January 26, 2019- the first month it was in operation.

[Austin55]

The ten finalist names are Bluebonnet, Flash, Maverick, Miles, Panther, Ranger, Rex, Scout, Vaquero and Zippy. 

Vote here for your favorite:  https://ridetrinitym.../namethattrain/

[JBB]

Some of those are better than others, but that list of finalists could have been much worse.

[Dylan]

Oops... when placing my submission, I assumed they were looking for normal people names instead of silly names or nicknames.

[FortWorthian]

 

 

Hoping for an announcement soon on construction to the Mistletoe/Near Southside/Medical District Station. The microsite lists "Early 2024" as a start date. 

 

https://ridetrinitym...6-5d744d35-bcf9

 

I was trying to figure out if and where this rendering was already posted on this thread of the new station and surrounding development but I'll go ahead and post it again since I missed finding it. 

It's the TIF 4 presentation: https://www.fortwort...nual-report.pdf

 

 

 

 

Here's a better quality image:

https://www.fortwort...nual-report.pdf

 

 

TEXRail Extension to Near Southside Station Drainage Study filed 4/30/24

 

https://aca-prod.acc...ShowInspection=

 

Project Description:

TEXRail Extension

The proposed TEXRail Extension project is a 2.1-mile commuter rail system planned to operate within southwest Fort Worth from the Fort Worth T&P Station to the Near Southside Station (Baylor Scott & White All Saints Medical Center). The TEXRail Extension corridor (shown in Exhibit 1) begins on the southern end at the Near Southside Station near the intersection of Mistletoe Boulevard and Leslie Street. The alignment then travels north crossing over and then parallel to Leslie Creek and the West Overflow Ditch within the FWWR (Fort Worth Western Railroad) ROW for approximately 0.5 miles through Fort Worth's medical district.

[Doohickie]

I hope the TCU station is hot on the heels of this one.  It could be a door-to-door solution for me to get to DFW Airport... the No. 6 bus is a 5 minute walk from my house:  No. 6 to Berry, hop on the train from there.

[redblock]

Trinity Metro is hoping for Grant in June.

https://fortworthrep...OZ3CECA-tfvL_gV

[TLA]

Sounds like they can move forward without the grant, but it would certainly help. I’m confused, since I thought it was all covered. I’m hopeful it will be fine. Tangent — My impression is Rep. Granger has been effective bringing home federal funding for local projects over the years — not that this grant is under congressional control. Her likely successor resides fairly centrally in Fort Worth, born and raised. Much better IMHO to be represented by a real local, compared to someone hundreds of miles away in a gerrymandered rural town.

Doohickie - same story for me, but for this Hospital District station. Could walk there in the future. I hope they extend sooner rather than later to TCU.

[FunkyTownTay]

Ever since Goodwill moved out of the building at Berry and Townsend, I keep thinking it would be perfect spot for a transfer station that could have bus service and ride share options. Maybe the existing building is too big for that use, but it's an interesting thought.