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#51 steave

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Posted 11 March 2022 - 06:16 PM

A small brewery would be fun, to be honest I never liked any of the other ones around here. When I lived in Houston I thought the local beer scene was quite a bit better.



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Posted 12 March 2022 - 08:53 AM

 

Volare, are you knowledge about this plant? How feasible would it be to relocate or close it?

Sorry I missed this question from 2018. Just noticed it now as the thread is resurrected. I toured the plant a few years back with someone who worked on some of the treatment systems under a contract from the city. It is a very old but integral plant, supplying the freshwater to the majority of the center city of Fort Worth. I think the prospects of closing it or moving it are about the same as closing or moving the UP Railyard located just a bit more to the west- nil.

 

What about concentrating some of its operations to free up land for private development? I think this is all city property inside my red outline:

 

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Could the water treatment and other city uses be concentrated into, say, 75% of the existing footprint, freeing up the other 25% for development? I'm looking in particular at the southern rectangle in between Broadway and Dagget.



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Posted 12 March 2022 - 01:25 PM

Turn it into a park!

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Posted 12 March 2022 - 02:26 PM

Turn it into a park!


I suspect theres actually a little mystery park already there in the lower right corner north of the church, some kind of private walking trail for city workers.

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Posted 12 March 2022 - 08:19 PM

 

 

Volare, are you knowledge about this plant? How feasible would it be to relocate or close it?

Sorry I missed this question from 2018. Just noticed it now as the thread is resurrected. I toured the plant a few years back with someone who worked on some of the treatment systems under a contract from the city. It is a very old but integral plant, supplying the freshwater to the majority of the center city of Fort Worth. I think the prospects of closing it or moving it are about the same as closing or moving the UP Railyard located just a bit more to the west- nil.

 

What about concentrating some of its operations to free up land for private development? I think this is all city property inside my red outline:

 

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Could the water treatment and other city uses be concentrated into, say, 75% of the existing footprint, freeing up the other 25% for development? I'm looking in particular at the southern rectangle in between Broadway and Dagget.

 

If only...


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Posted 15 March 2022 - 09:38 AM

Turn it into a park!

Given the size of the park across the river, I don't see the demand. The access to this area is horrendous- if you can see it after having driven by westbound, you are already way past where you needed to exit. Good luck getting back to the area.

There are extensive and massive underground pipes leading into and out of this water plant. Pipes measured in feet, not inches. I can't imagine the Water Dept has much desire to allow anyone to build anything in this area.



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Posted 15 March 2022 - 10:24 AM

 

Turn it into a park!

Given the size of the park across the river, I don't see the demand. The access to this area is horrendous- if you can see it after having driven by westbound, you are already way past where you needed to exit. Good luck getting back to the area.

There are extensive and massive underground pipes leading into and out of this water plant. Pipes measured in feet, not inches. I can't imagine the Water Dept has much desire to allow anyone to build anything in this area.

 

I agree.  A park is not needed.  What is needed is a better exit to Forest Park from I-30.  I do believe that it could be a really cool retail and residential area along the lines of Westbend but not until the access issue is addressed.



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Posted 15 March 2022 - 10:48 AM

Will Panther Island negate the need for the levees here?

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Posted 15 March 2022 - 11:54 AM

Will Panther Island negate the need for the levees here?

 

Here's the changes to the river here:

 

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This was discussed at one point in time too:

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Posted 15 March 2022 - 03:19 PM

The TRV periphery zoning has a few rules in the Parkside area. 

 

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Posted 16 March 2022 - 08:24 AM

The TRV periphery zoning has a few rules in the Parkside area. 

 

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that specification for outdoor dining being oriented towards the river vs "back door parking and service areas," I've always been gobsmacked at the Pappa's decisions to place such ordinary suburban strip style development for those restaurants when the river and park view are available RIGHT THERE



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Posted 16 March 2022 - 08:53 AM

Will Panther Island negate the need for the levees here?

Given the critical infrastructure that the water dept represents, I highly doubt any changes will be made to the levees. Not to mention that they bypass channel is downstream from this location- I don't think that is a coincidence.



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Posted 19 March 2022 - 01:46 PM

A small brewery would be fun, to be honest I never liked any of the other ones around here. When I lived in Houston I thought the local beer scene was quite a bit better.

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Posted 19 March 2022 - 02:29 PM

Personal taste maybe. I don't like gimmicky sours or other "flavored" beers Martin House makes all that much. Wild Acre and Rahr are okay.



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Posted 19 March 2022 - 10:02 PM

Have you been to HopFusion?  Granted, I know the owners, but really they have some amazing beers.  What type of beer to you prefer?  (I'm not much of a sour guy either.)

 

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Posted 19 March 2022 - 10:32 PM

I might have to try that ^^^



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Posted 13 April 2022 - 04:46 PM

The property is for sale, 

https://www.loopnet....th-TX/25456593/
 

 

• Zoned PD/H/DUDD” Central Business District /

DUDD overlay with Brewery and Distillery with 10 story
height limit, site plan waived
• Architectural design completed for a mixed-use 8-Story
Building. See page 3. 80 Apartments
• 3 Medical Offices
• Top Floor Restaurant & Deck
• 229 Parks
• Area properties renting for approx. $2.00 per SF

 

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Posted 13 April 2022 - 08:24 PM

At least its not a total loss. Seems like the townhomes are moving forward.

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Posted 14 April 2022 - 12:10 PM

I think the loss is actually a win.  



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Posted 14 April 2022 - 01:47 PM

Are we sure the first deal fell through and this isn't the original listing that enticed them?  Or maybe it fell through and just relisted it?  The date on those renderings is 9 months old which seems to pre-date our last conversation about this site by several months. 



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Posted 26 April 2022 - 09:14 AM

I believe this still needs to be approved by the DDRB.



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Posted 01 October 2022 - 12:00 PM

Construction activity at Wenneca and 14th Ave yesterday evening.  Crews still working late on a Friday.  I was headed to the bike trail. (wouldn't want to be over here at night!)

 

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Posted 07 November 2022 - 10:41 AM

But I believe this construction is across the street from the development being discussed in this thread?




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