46 replies to this topic

[Corsicana33]

I recently moved to Burleson, does anyone know of any development going on down here? The only dirt I see being turned over is a new (relocation) Braum's. Any future plans being talked about out there?

[McHand]

Old downtown renewal and lots of retail on McArthur.

[Corsicana33]

New Sam's Club being build, getting Chicken E distribution/offices and a new Burger King. Woohoo movin' on up

[mmiller2002]

I thought people moved to Burleson, etc. to get away from development.

 

Development brings rules (like no trash burning).

[John T Roberts]

Corsicana33, or anyone else, where are all of these projects located? 

[Corsicana33]

Sam's club will be located at 35W and SH174 next to the Honda dealership, Chicken E will be in the new business park on 35W close to FM 917, and the new Burger King will be close to the intersection of SH 174 and Crowley road. Also getting a Toyota dealership at 35W and Hidden Creek. Burleson has been getting alot of development due to the fact that most people want convenience, if a city can bring all the essential stores to its town, then the money people spend will stay in that towns economy.

[youngalum]

I thought people moved to Burleson, etc. to get away from development.

 

Development brings rules (like no trash burning).

You want to burn your trash?  Why?

[mmiller2002]

 

I thought people moved to Burleson, etc. to get away from development.

 

Development brings rules (like no trash burning).

You want to burn your trash?  Why?

 

 

Because you can!

 

I didn't say I wanted to, haha.  But, that's always been one of the stereotypical reasons to be out of the city. (fireworks, too).

[Corsicana33]

I don't know if you have been here recently but Burleson isn't some little country town anymore. If you want a little town then Alvarado is the next option, Burleson is growing like a weed with future development and they have begun to start planning for better infrastructure in anticipation of the new tollroad and the eventual expansion south of the passenger train.

[mmiller2002]

I don't know if you have been here recently but Burleson isn't some little country town anymore. If you want a little town then Alvarado is the next option, Burleson is growing like a weed with future development and they have begun to start planning for better infrastructure in anticipation of the new tollroad and the eventual expansion south of the passenger train.

 

So, is that what the majority of Burleson wants?  Or, are they moving to Alvaredo?

[Corsicana33]

Well population is growing so I guess that's what the town wants

[John T Roberts]

Burleson is now the largest town in Johnson County.  Up until the 2010 Census, Cleburne was the largest town in the county.  The 2010 population of Burleson was 36,690.

[mmiller2002]

Maybe Burleson needs an Urban Village, call it SoFo, South of FW.  It can draw all of the chain places from the sprawling "Burleson Town Center" into a cuter, newer urban-y development with the buildings up to the sidewalks.

[Austin55]

^ Have you ever been to Burleson's little downtown area? It's quite nice, and seems to be growing, I know one resruant just opened a balcony on the second floor and there's a whole new restaurant at Bufford & Main). Babe's is the main attraction. There's a few nice historic facades and a lot of more recent artwork and murals. The old NT Traction company station is right around the corner and I want to say there's even a car there now to. A little more development would really help it out. It's also set right on railroad tracks, maybe one day a line could be built down there...

 

Develop  few of those rotting agriculture lots and parking lots, maybe a little park and a stage, would be a real nice area. 

 

There's another new area just up main right here, but it's not quite as active as the historic downtown. 

[John T Roberts]

I often host a Fort Worth Bicycling Association ride that starts on Commerce Street, right across from Babe's, so I'm very familiar with the town.

[Corsicana33]

Found out today that started June 1st, the HEB grocery store here in Burleson will begin major construction, it will become an HEBPlus!, it will be like a walmart super center with a clothes department/electronics/etc. they should be done around December of this year. Also Burleson will be getting a Neighborhood Market Walmart and Bahamas Bucks.

[John T Roberts]

Kroger recently announced a Marketplace store to be built at the southeast corner of TX 174 and FM 731.  Also, the Sam's Club opened this week, but that meant the closing of the Sam's at Campus and I-20 in southeast Fort Worth.

[JBB]

That Sam's location, the one on Cherry Lane, and the one in Richland Hills were probably their original locations in Tarrant County if I'm not mistaken.

[John T Roberts]

JBB, from what I can remember, I think you are correct.

[John T Roberts]

Things are starting to move on the west side of Burleson adjacent to the Chisholm Trail Parkway.  Below is a link to an article in the Business Press.

 

http://fwbusinesspre...opment----.aspx

[Corsicana33]

Schlotsky's, Dunkin Donuts, Baskin Robbins and Advanced Auto Parts are scheduled to open in the coming months on HWY 174. Raising Cane's is looking at a potential restaurant here and Harley Davidson will open up a store on HWY 35W & Renfro. Also Airforce Airgunes will open up a distribution plant here. Burleson is also getting ready to "spruce" up Old Town area with better lighting, benches and side walks along with better signage for parking as some really great Local eateries have opened up downtown.

[Austin55]

I'mccurious why you have an MKC (?) As your avatar.

[Corsicana33]

Because we just bought one and I wasn't able to put a pic of myself on here, it said the pic was too big

 

Edit* Now I have a pic of me

[johnfwd]

I'm glad to see more economic development in Burleson.  And the art drawing, published in the FWBP article below, shows the proposed facility will be an attractive addition to this satellite community of Fort Worth.

 

http://www.fortworth...ab8c91fb79.html

[elpingüino]

Another wholesale food manufacturing company is setting up shop in Burleson. This one is a $70 million facility and 150+ jobs. https://www.bizjourn...ew-70m-hub.html

[elpingüino]

Heim BBQ to open in Old Town Burleson. https://www.burleson...own-development

[JBB]

Of all of the local cities pushing the idea of developing an "old town" or reviving what could best be described as a "downtown" - Roanoke, Mansfield, Arlington, Grapevine - Burleson has an advantage that the others don't: proximity to and visibility from a major freeway.  

 

And I know there's the idea that expansion can dilute both brand and product, but Heim has done an excellent job of managing that.  I've heard nothing but positive reviews for their newly opened location by Love Field.

[Nitixope]

same for Historic Downtown Carrollton as far as visibility from a major freeway.

[JBB]

Yeah, I thought about Carrollton being similar when I was typing that.  Carrollton's downtown also has a DART green line station.

[txbornviking]

just a casual observation...

 

historic/OldTown/Downtown Burleson has a Babe's 

historic/OldTown/Downtown Carrollton has a Babe's

historic/OldTown/Downtown Cedar Hill has a Babe's

historic/OldTown/Downtown Roanoke has a Babe's

historic/OldTown/Downtown Arlington has a Babe's

 

historic/OldTown/Downtown Mansfield no Babe's   

historic/OldTown/Downtown Grapevine no Babe's   

[Nitixope]

I think Frisco's Babe's is right outside of old downtown too.

[Jeriat]

They've got a lot to work with...

[John T Roberts]

Is there a legend to the colors on the map?

[Nitixope]

https://www.burleson...09374981?bidId=

 

https://www.burleson...30-FINAL?bidId=

[John T Roberts]

Thanks.  When I was riding a lot with the FWBA, I would periodically lead rides through Johnson County from north to south and back starting from the parking area along Ellison Street next to the railroad tracks.  The club also has a Thursday morning ride starting every week from that location.  So I am familiar with Old Town Burleson.

[rriojas71]

just a casual observation...

 

historic/OldTown/Downtown Burleson has a Babe's 

historic/OldTown/Downtown Carrollton has a Babe's

historic/OldTown/Downtown Cedar Hill has a Babe's

historic/OldTown/Downtown Roanoke has a Babe's

historic/OldTown/Downtown Arlington has a Babe's

 

historic/OldTown/Downtown Mansfield no Babe's   

historic/OldTown/Downtown Grapevine no Babe's   

I'm kinda ok that Grapevine doesn't have one.  They are ok, but a bit overrated IMO.  I think I'd be more open to them if they built into an existing building instead of just constructing the same building over and over.  That is what makes it cheesy to me.

[elpingüino]

just a casual observation...
 
historic/OldTown/Downtown Burleson has a Babe's 
historic/OldTown/Downtown Carrollton has a Babe's
historic/OldTown/Downtown Cedar Hill has a Babe's
historic/OldTown/Downtown Roanoke has a Babe's
historic/OldTown/Downtown Arlington has a Babe's
 
historic/OldTown/Downtown Mansfield no Babe's   
historic/OldTown/Downtown Grapevine no Babe's   

Plus historic/OldTown/Downtown Granbury has a Babe's too

[elpingüino]

A $1.2 billion, 900-acre master-planned community was announced for Burleson. 3,000 homes, 100 acres of parks, 28 acres of commercial space, a 106-acre professional office park/medical district, and an equestrian center. Roughly between FM 1902 to the north and Alsbury to the south, with Chisholm Trail as the western border.
https://www.burleson...s.aspx?AID=1628

[Nitixope]

https://www.tdlr.tex.../TABS2023008576

 

PROJECT

Project Name: Heim Barbeque Burleson

Project Number: TABS2023008576

Facility Name: Heim Tenant Finish-Out

Location Address: 139 W. Ellison St., Suite 101

Burleson, TX 76028

Location County: Johnson

Start Date: 2/1/2023

Completion Date: 9/1/2023

Estimated Cost: $1,075,000

Type of Work: New Construction

Type of Funds: This project is privately funded, on private land for private use.

Scope of Work: Restaurant tenant finish-out Burleson, Texas. Air-conditioned ground floor totals 4,726 square feet. Second level includes 1,070 square feet of conditioned space and 3,656 square feet of unconditioned space.

Square Footage: 9,452 ft 2

[Nitixope]

 

https://www.tdlr.tex.../TABS2023008576

 

PROJECT

Project Name: Heim Barbeque Burleson

Project Number: TABS2023008576

Facility Name: Heim Tenant Finish-Out

Location Address: 139 W. Ellison St., Suite 101

Burleson, TX 76028

Location County: Johnson

Start Date: 2/1/2023

Completion Date: 9/1/2023

Estimated Cost: $1,075,000

Type of Work: New Construction

Type of Funds: This project is privately funded, on private land for private use.

Scope of Work: Restaurant tenant finish-out Burleson, Texas. Air-conditioned ground floor totals 4,726 square feet. Second level includes 1,070 square feet of conditioned space and 3,656 square feet of unconditioned space.

Square Footage: 9,452 ft 2

 

 

Bud Kennedy reports on Heim Burleson project and the pause on plans for Heim Hudson Oaks citing sky-high costs of operations and construction.  https://www.star-tel...est_restaurants

 

Here's the cancelled Hudson Oaks project rendering he included from the owner:

[Jeriat]

 

 

https://www.tdlr.tex.../TABS2023008576

 

PROJECT

Project Name: Heim Barbeque Burleson

Project Number: TABS2023008576

Facility Name: Heim Tenant Finish-Out

Location Address: 139 W. Ellison St., Suite 101

Burleson, TX 76028

Location County: Johnson

Start Date: 2/1/2023

Completion Date: 9/1/2023

Estimated Cost: $1,075,000

Type of Work: New Construction

Type of Funds: This project is privately funded, on private land for private use.

Scope of Work: Restaurant tenant finish-out Burleson, Texas. Air-conditioned ground floor totals 4,726 square feet. Second level includes 1,070 square feet of conditioned space and 3,656 square feet of unconditioned space.

Square Footage: 9,452 ft 2

 

 

Bud Kennedy reports on Heim Burleson project and the pause on plans for Heim Hudson Oaks citing sky-high costs of operations and construction.  https://www.star-tel...est_restaurants

 

Here's the cancelled Hudson Oaks project rendering he included from the owner:

 

Surprise surprise, Parker County doesn't want something... "advanced". 

[JBB]

They still want to open a location in Parker County but they have abandoned the plans for the flagship due to rising operating and construction costs. It has nothing to do with Parker County not wanting it.

[Nitixope]

I saw mention of a beer garden. It wasnt all that long ago I believe some of the precincts were still dry out in Parker County.

If I were Heim, I wouldnt want to walk into my bank right now asking for another $1M construction loan. Probably just bad timing.

[JBB]

Travis Heim hasn't been shy about sharing their financial struggles on Twitter.  Labor costs and food prices are killing a lot of restaurants right now.  BBQ depends a lot on catering business and I'm sure that is also a struggle.

[Nitixope]

Im sure high borrowing costs, interest rates and huge down payments factor into that too. I read somewhere online that a typical commercial construction loan could require 20-30% down and on a $1M BBQ establishment, that would be at least a quarter million. Id be curious if anyone has more specific info on that?

I scaled back my earlier reply as it was sort of rambling but I had mentioned that Ive seen way less business style catering and events lately. In years past it wasnt uncommon to try and feed a fairly large group of people for meetings and such and BBQ was usually about every third time depending on the group / industry. Now it is more of a rare treat to do things like that. I saw one company bragging on LinkedIn about feeding their staff three times a week. I think as businesses tighten their purse strings you will continue to see way less catered events, especially during this time of ultra-high food costs. How much per pound is raw brisket now? I heard it is really high I just havent set eyes in it in quite a while.

[JBB]

Just glancing at Wal Mart and HEB, it looks like $3.00-3.50 per pound.  That may not be the best quality, but that's a good starting point.

[Nitixope]

Gone are the days Albertsons running that brisket sale I guess. I remember when you could get it under two bucks a pound on sale.