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[rriojas71]

I'm glad they decided to use grey and brown as their color scheme.  That will truly set it apart from everything else being built.

[Austin55]

Bedford Lodging has added this project to their project portfolio. 

 

https://www.bedfordl...ng.com/nobleman

[TLA]

Mike Brennan from Near Southside Inc said during the council's work session this project would break ground in a couple months. Already approved in current TIF.

 

[elpingüino]

This Star-Telegram roundup of Near Southside projects includes an update about the Nobleman, set to open in 2024.

[John T Roberts]

This article from the Star-Telegram is also linked in at least one more thread on the forum.

[Austin55]

From TIF 4 meeting agenda: https://www.fortwort...-southside-2023

 

 

D. Consideration of an Amendment to Resolution 2022-04-06 to Change the Developer Name from Bedford Lodging, LLC to MB Hospitality FWSOUTHSIDE, LLC and Extend the Start and Completion Dates for the TIF Development Agreement for Public Improvements Associated with the Nobleman Hotel Development (Michael Brennan, TIF Administrator) 

[Stadtplan]

At tonights Near Southside Shindig there was a video looping in the lobby area showing renderings of this. It looks great! It's been toned down a lot from the renderings posted earlier in this thread. It will be called the Nobleman Hotel.

 

This seems like a pretty expensive project at $227/SQFT.

 

https://www.tdlr.tex.../TABS2023015114

 

PROJECT

Project Name: New Hotel Project

Project Number: TABS2023015114

Facility Name: The Nobleman Tapestry Hotel

Location Address: 503 Bryan Ave

Fort Worth, TX 76104

Location County: Tarrant

Start Date: 4/15/2023

Completion Date: 8/1/2024

Estimated Cost: $26,500,000

Type of Work: New Construction

Type of Funds: This project is privately funded, on private land for private use.

Scope of Work: 1 story underground parking garage with 4 story 153 key wood hotel superstructure above. Lobby, Meeting spaces, Restaurant, Bar, Outdoor swimming pool and lounge area included. Also, includes renovation of existing Fire House on site.

Square Footage: 116,954 ft 2

Are the private funds provided by the tenant? No

Current Status: Project Registered

 

OWNER

Owner Name:

MB Hospitality FW Southside LLC

Owner Address:

4925 Greenville Suite 106

Dallas, Texas 75206

 

DESIGN FIRM

Design Firm Name: Base4

Design Firm Address: 2901 Clint Moore Rd, #114

Boca Raton, Florida 33496

[Stadtplan]

Steve Brown had an article on the Tapestry today:

https://www.dallasne...ear-south-side/

 

 

[rriojas71]

Not a DMN subscriber but thanks for sharing the link and photos

[Stadtplan]

Not a DMN subscriber but thanks for sharing the link and photos

I was able to open the link and then close the pop-up to see the article.

[Stadtplan]

Grading permit filed for the Nobleman Hotel:

 

https://aca-prod.acc...ShowInspection=

[rriojas71]

Grading permit filed for the Nobleman Hotel:

 

https://aca-prod.acc...ShowInspection=

Yes I saw that the property was fenced in this morning as well as part of the lot East of the Fire Station.   Looks like work will begin soon.

 

There is going to be a lot going on in that area... especially with 3 other projects within a block of this project all currently in the early phases of construction.

[John T Roberts]

I will agree that the area is becoming more dynamic.

[Austin55]

Pretty nice marketing video on the hotel. 

[Stadtplan]

Pool permit: 586 SQFT

https://aca-prod.acc...ShowInspection=

[TLA]

I noticed heavy machinery at the site last week.

This hotel opens up a side of Fort Worth many aren’t familiar with, the ‘staycation’ crew from the Metroplex and those from way out of town. Both groups will experience a dense, walkable, trendy, and rich culinary environment. You can fly in, TexRail to T&P, then use ZIPZONE to explore Near Southside the whole stay.

[John T Roberts]

The hotel will be a great addition to the area.  If I was traveling from out of town, the only difference I would make in your suggestion would be to walk from the T&P to the Near Southside.

[Thurman52]

The area needs to find solution on parking

[Jeriat]

The area needs to find solution on parking

 

What's the problem?

[Thurman52]

Collections of small pay lots each with signs indicating which establishment its for. Street parking is limited. 
 

Normally, I am all for mixed use and density but eating there last night it occurred to me for this area to grow it needs central parking solution plus a transit solution. 
 

[TLA]

Collections of small pay lots each with signs indicating which establishment its for. Street parking is limited. 
 
Normally, I am all for mixed use and density but eating there last night it occurred to me for this area to grow it needs central parking solution plus a transit solution.

When the Trinity Metro lots on Vickery are developed that could help with central parking, while not lobbing parking in the densest parts. I dont agree the area needs parking to grow, but as more surface lots are developed there will be a market for paid parking. For transit, theres TexRail/TRE on Vickery, ZIPZONE from many neighborhoods for direct access, and a bus route on S Main. I often take ZIPZONE to the area when I know Ill be drinking.

Ive never had an issue parking, but I can understand people unfamiliar with the area (and the rarity of denser places in Texas) may not consider or be uncomfortable parking a few blocks away. Id take a garage on the fringes if they banned street parking on narrow roads like Bryan and E Daggett.

[Jeriat]

Collections of small pay lots each with signs indicating which establishment its for. Street parking is limited. 
 

Normally, I am all for mixed use and density but eating there last night it occurred to me for this area to grow it needs central parking solution plus a transit solution. 
 

 

You're not seriously suggesting surface lots . . . 

[Crestline]

 

Collections of small pay lots each with signs indicating which establishment its for. Street parking is limited. 
 

Normally, I am all for mixed use and density but eating there last night it occurred to me for this area to grow it needs central parking solution plus a transit solution. 
 

 

You're not seriously suggesting surface lots . . . 

 

It sounds to me like he is suggesting a public parking garage rather than surface parking lots. I would urgently resist adding new surface lots in the south Main area, beyond the code-mandated parking minimums for new developments (and hopefully these minimums can be reduced further or eliminated), but a dedicated public garage wouldn't be the end of the world for walkable density. Building a big garage on Tucker anywhere in the five blocks between Galveston and Calhoun would probably settle neighborhood parking issues for good.

 

As for transit, it looks like the 5 serves Main with 30 minute headways—15 or 20 minute headways would be better during peak hours!

[rriojas71]

Drove by the site this morning and they had the construction fencing propped open exposing the huge hole that has been dug out around the building.  I'm assuming this will either be parking or maybe receiving or guest amenities.  I was just really surprised by the size of the dig.

[Stadtplan]

Drove by the site this morning and they had the construction fencing propped open exposing the huge hole that has been dug out around the building.  I'm assuming this will either be parking or maybe receiving or guest amenities.  I was just really surprised by the size of the dig.

 

Maybe for the 586 SQFT pool?  Which side of the bldg was the hole being dug?

 

[TLA]

There’s one level of underground parking so it could be for that plus utilities.

[rriojas71]

 

Drove by the site this morning and they had the construction fencing propped open exposing the huge hole that has been dug out around the building.  I'm assuming this will either be parking or maybe receiving or guest amenities.  I was just really surprised by the size of the dig.

 

Maybe for the 586 SQFT pool?  Which side of the bldg was the hole being dug?

 

 

it's all the way around the building.  everything except the building has been excavated.

[Austin55]

Overview of the excavation. Also visible within a one-block radius are 465 S. Main, Bryan Flats and Skyvew on Crawford.

 

[ramjet]

Overview of the excavation. Also visible within a one-block radius are 465 S. Main, Bryan Flats and Skyvew on Crawford.

 

 

That's a great view of downtown, too.  Thanks for posting.

[rriojas71]

I just can't believe how this area has changed so much in the past 5 years.  It is really astonishing.

[Jeriat]

I just can't believe how this areas has changed so much in the past 5 years.  It is really astonishing.

And a lot more "organic" than West 7th. 

[TLA]

Underground parking almost fully poured:

 

 

Where the future pool will be:

 

[Stadtplan]

Thats one impressive excavation.

[TLA]

Thats one impressive excavation.

I’d say my photos don’t do it justice. It’s basically the fully block.

This may be the first underground garage in Near Southside. I can’t really think of underground parking in downtown either. The Bowie on the west side has underground parking too.

[Stadtplan]

Does the Hilton Annex have partially underground parking or maybe it just feels like it is underground?

[TLA]

Oh I don’t know. I feel I’ve parked underground plenty of times in Downtown Austin and Uptown Dallas, but never in FTW. Except the Kimbell of course.

Maybe I need to start a thread on underground parking in the city…

[Austin55]

Maybe I need to start a thread on underground parking in the city

That would be an interesting subject!

[rriojas71]

I believe Frost Tower has a few levels underground.

[John T Roberts]

Rriojas71, you are correct about Frost Tower.  I also think it is the deepest underground parking in the city.

[Doohickie]

Thats one impressive excavation.

When I was traveling frequently to Washington, DC (actually Crystal City), it seemed there were always one or two excavations like that in work, especially in the area between Crystal City and Pentagon City.  I remember thinking it would be cool to see that kind of (and level of) development in Fort Worth.

 

And here we are.

[Austin55]

Going vertical

 

[rriojas71]

 

Thats one impressive excavation.

When I was traveling frequently to Washington, DC (actually Crystal City), it seemed there were always one or two excavations like that in work, especially in the area between Crystal City and Pentagon City.  I remember thinking it would be cool to see that kind of (and level of) development in Fort Worth.

 

And here we are.

 

I stayed in that area on a trip to DC and thought the same thing myself.