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Electricron

Member Since 27 Feb 2009
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In Topic: Amtrak

16 October 2024 - 07:22 AM

Here's a few bits of knowledge most advocates completely are unaware of when proposing additional services on Amtrak, either regional trains requiring state subsidy to cover Amtrak's losses, or long distance trains that Amtrak subsidizes all by itself. First fact, that dividing line between long distance and regional trains is by law defined at 750 miles.

 

Second, how many trains it takes to provide the additional services. Take the Heartland Flyers as an example. It requires one train set, leaving OKC early in the am, arriving FW around noon, all maintenance and cleaning done in FW, leaving FW in the early pm, arriving in OKC prior to midnight.

One train set works. Extend that train to Newton, Kansas one train set still works with very early arrival and immediate departure in the wee hours every morning (3-4 am). Do you really believe Kansas will subsidize a train at that time of day? So, in reality, for an acceptable am departure from Kansas to an acceptable pm arrival to Kansas, two train sets will be needed. That's 2 more locomotives for bi-directional running and at a minimum 2 more Superliner cars. 

 

The Texas Eagle uses 4 train sets because the south and north bound trains meet twice every day. Every time they meet, there are two trains on the tracks. They are scheduled to meet in Fort Worth and to just miss one another near Chicago, arriving in Chicago at 1:44 pm, and departing Chicago at 1:52 pm. There is no way they can reuse the same train in Chicago with just an 8 minute stop and turn around. So, four train sets are needed to run the Texas Eagle. It is so easy to fall with the misinformed belief the Texas Eagle requires just one train set. 

 

Third, what does Amtrak need to maintain and operate the trains. Crew experienced on the right of way to operate the trains safely. Crew trained to service its customers (passengers) both aboard the trains and at stations when necessary. Crews to maintain the trains in a shop area. The maintenance shops and yards. Vendors supplying the goods needed to service both the trains and its passengers. Take for example a second frequency between Dallas and San Antonio following the existing route. It would require an additional Superliner train set at a minimum, and most likely two Superliner train sets for mostly daylight operations. Amtrak would have to increase maintenance crew in both Dallas  and San Antonio and its operations crew on the trains. And Texas would have to subsidize Amtrak's losses because the route would be less than 750 miles in length. 

 

There are advocates today led by the mayors of Austin and San Antonio for someone (Mexico,Texas, and/or Amtrak) to run more intercity trains between them. To eliminate them from funding the project, they have changed the terminating stations north to Fort Worth and south to Monterrey to make the corridor length more than 750 miles, and if needed north to Oklahoma City if Fort Worth does not get the Texas subsidy guarantee. The longer they make the corridor, and the higher frequency of trains ran, the more train sets will be needed, along with more crew of every possible type. Can it be done? Will it be done? Who ultimately will pay for it? 


In Topic: The Rail Plan

06 October 2024 - 06:16 PM

Joining in here maybe too late. The only Stadler trains FRA Alternate Certified are the KISS double deckers Caltrain uses and the FLIRTs single level TexRail uses. The GTWs DCTA uses and the Regional Shuttles someone proposed are not FRA Alternate Compliant. Neither are any metros, trams, or light rail vehicles. 

There are many manufacturers capable of building light rail vehicles in the USA, so limiting your choice to one vendor is a mistake financially. Let the best, lowest cost bidder win. 

Today, there is just one vendor building FRA Alternate Compliant trains today, Stadler. And even TexRail avoids running  them on freight tracks without time separation locking procedures so as to not have them running together at the same time on the same tracks. 

Commuter trains to Burleson on BNSF, FWWR south, to Arlington and Denton on UP tracks will require two options. Additional tracks in a freight corridor shared with fully FRA Compliant trains like the TRE, or on tracks not shared with freight trains at the same time with Alternate Complaint trains like TexRail.


In Topic: High Speed Rail - Texas

07 August 2024 - 01:56 PM

My understanding is the logic in burying the line in Arlington/Grand Prairie is that the interchanges of 360 and 161 (GBTP) are too high to go over and there's no room to go around. The ROW opens up a lot west of Cooper and east of Belt Line. 

And I suppose the intersections in downtown Dallas are much lower than those in Arlington and Fort Worth. Sarcasm! 

Who do you think you are fooling?

 

If NCTCOG can find a way to elevate tracks near intersections in downtown Dallas, they can do so in Arlington and downtown Fort Worth as well.


In Topic: Trinity Railway Express

08 March 2024 - 08:58 AM

I am all in favor of TODs around train stations and bus depots. The key to encouraging them is access, zoning, and taxing districts. 

And of course, private enterprises looking for profits and leasers wishing to live and work in them.


In Topic: TEXRail

01 March 2024 - 10:47 AM

 

 

Look like TRE will also be upgraded. 

as was discussed in the TRE thread. Do we need to discuss everything in every thread?

 

Yes.    :swg:

 

Really?

What do you think about Amtrak buying 83 new Siemens Venture trainsets with ALC42E locomotives for the Northeast Corridor?

What about Arrow train in San Bernandino buying a Hydrogen powered FLIRT?

What about the O-Train in Ottawa buying 4 Diesel powered FLIRTs?

What about Amtrak California on San Jose buying at least 4 Hydrogen powered FLIRTs.

What about Metra in Chicago buying 8, and possibly another 8, Battery powered FLIRTs?

I can add more that has nothing to do with TexRail, but do you get my point now?

If we can discuss everything in one thread, why have more than one thread?

TexRail does have Diesel powered FLIRTs, so is it all related?