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#1 jefffwd

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Posted 01 July 2008 - 04:00 PM

The MillerCoors merger beame official today and the company is planning to move their new headquarters to a neutral location that isn't Milwaukee or Golden, CO. Reports have surfaced that The Chicago and Dallas metro areas are the finalists. Wouldn't it be great if they landed in Fort Worth since there is already a plant here?

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Posted 01 July 2008 - 04:30 PM

So South African Brewery owns both Miller and NOW Coors???

Good grief, what happened to America these past few years?

Supposed to own Modelo too. Was that part of the deal?
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Posted 01 July 2008 - 06:58 PM

Would make sense to make FtWorth headquarters with a plant currently in the area. Then again I won't get my hopes up high.

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Posted 01 July 2008 - 09:16 PM

unless they build we have no real estate. wouldn't mind them building a campus in Edwards Ranch w/ ACME brick or nice office towe dtwn.

I would even support a tax abatement for them!

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Posted 02 July 2008 - 08:18 PM

Exactly! It would be a nice fit for Fort Worth. So what are our current city leaders doing to woo this company to Fort Worth? In fact, what is the city's strategy for economic development, establishing an environment for corporate relocations, encouraging entrepreneurship in the city, creating JOBS! For example, why is there a telecom corridor in Richardson, for cripey sakes? And not the West Freeway? Why have the northern suburbs of Dallas attracted so much new business over the last 15 years and Fort Worth, with its superior location and quality of life (IMO), and frankly, easier access to downtown Dallas and DFW airport, largely missed the growth spurts in DFW's 21st century business opportunities? I believe one could lay much of the blame at the door of City Hall and the small, parochial vision of the city's recent and current elected and appointed officials. Not saying nothing good is going on because clearly the city has expanded and benefitted from economic development around Alliance and the emergence of the natural gas industry. I just wish civic and business leaders would do more to increase job opportunities in Fort Worth's wonderful core areas. C'mon Mike and Dale - step away from the bar at the Fort Worth Club and get this city some good paying jobs...!

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Posted 02 July 2008 - 08:39 PM

QUOTE (ramjet @ Jul 2 2008, 09:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just wish civic and business leaders would do more to increase job opportunities in Fort Worth's wonderful core areas. C'mon Mike and Dale - step away from the bar at the Fort Worth Club and get this city some good paying jobs...!

WORD! The problem isn't just in not doing enough to entice businesses with incentives or tax abatements, it's so much deeper than that. I mean, why does AT&T, one of the largest and most visible companies in the country, not even need tax incentives to relocate to Dallas? Because that city has managed to create an environment that businesses actually WANT to be in. I'm not saying Fort Worth should try to become another corporate sellout like Dallas (oops, I guess that was rude), but the city as it is clearly isn't one that businesses are comfortable enough locating in without some kind of bribe, and that's embarrassing.

I doubt, however, that anything will change in time to nab MillerCoors. I'd put my money on Chicagoland or Collin County. *sigh*

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Posted 03 July 2008 - 05:29 AM

QUOTE (mosteijn @ Jul 2 2008, 08:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
WANT to be in. I'm not saying Fort Worth should try to become another corporate sellout like Dallas (oops, I guess that was rude),

Dallas is a corporate sellout??...ahem can you say Radioshack, Pier One, Cabella's. Not to attack my hometown, by if it wasn't for the gas companies, FW would be a corporate nightmare right now. Most of the city's "big business" players, (though not all through fault of their own) RS, P1, DR Horton, Bombay (gone), and American Airlines are having tough times right now. C'mon. FW gave sizeable incentives to a corporation that shortly after it moved into new digs, couldn't afford to light up it's own building and another that took huge incentives and now will live rent free on a Jr College Campus. Alliance has been great, but it still leans much more toward industrial than big business. Dallas, along with some of its burbs, has simply created a strong corporate climate, something FW has never done. And if Dallas is a corporate sellout than so is Houston, Atlanta, Chicago, Charlotte, Austin, and any other large city luring corporations these days.

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Posted 03 July 2008 - 06:39 AM

I would think that Fort Worth can't afford to give any more tax breaks to corportate, City can't even balance their budget because of not enough tax revenue coming in -- maybe among other issues, because the city gave tax breaks several years ago to now under performing or non performing corporate folks.

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Posted 03 July 2008 - 06:19 PM

QUOTE (Dcurtis @ Jul 3 2008, 06:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dallas, along with some of its burbs, has simply created a strong corporate climate, something FW has never done. And if Dallas is a corporate sellout than so is Houston, Atlanta, Chicago, Charlotte, Austin, and any other large city luring corporations these days.

Bingo. Who says FW needs some stuffy corporate climate to be successful? What's really special about any of those cities anyway (well, except maybe Austin, but the more like Dallas it tries to be, the less that holds true.) I'm not going to complain if companies want to move here, but I'd rather see us focus on developing local businesses and creating a culture of creativity and entrepreneurship rather than becoming just another big American city.

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Posted 03 July 2008 - 06:41 PM

QUOTE (mosteijn @ Jul 3 2008, 07:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Dcurtis @ Jul 3 2008, 06:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dallas, along with some of its burbs, has simply created a strong corporate climate, something FW has never done. And if Dallas is a corporate sellout than so is Houston, Atlanta, Chicago, Charlotte, Austin, and any other large city luring corporations these days.

Bingo. Who says FW needs some stuffy corporate climate to be successful? What's really special about any of those cities anyway (well, except maybe Austin, but the more like Dallas it tries to be, the less that holds true.) I'm not going to complain if companies want to move here, but I'd rather see us focus on developing local businesses and creating a culture of creativity and entrepreneurship rather than becoming just another big American city.


Whether it's job growth from budding entrepreneurship, local business growth, or corporate relocations, I think Fort Worth city leaders have a significant role in encouraging and pushing for each. Reading about the AT&T relocation to Dallas, it's clear that Tom Leppert and other Dallas city leaders did a great job cultivating the company over time and convincing them that Dallas was a better choice for their business. In fact, they've bagged several choice relocations lately. I just wonder what Fort Worth city leaders are doing to encourage job growth - however it occurs - particularly in the downtown and city core areas. You don't hear much from City Hall on their efforts. You certainly haven't heard many successes lately. I just point this out because I think the Fort Worth's growth and urbanization efforts in the future - in fact, any city's growth and urbanization efforts - will be affected by its citizens proximity to work - the closer the better. Gas is becoming too expensive to afford long commutes...

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Posted 03 July 2008 - 06:47 PM

QUOTE (mosteijn @ Jul 3 2008, 06:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Dcurtis @ Jul 3 2008, 06:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dallas, along with some of its burbs, has simply created a strong corporate climate, something FW has never done. And if Dallas is a corporate sellout than so is Houston, Atlanta, Chicago, Charlotte, Austin, and any other large city luring corporations these days.

Bingo. Who says FW needs some stuffy corporate climate to be successful? What's really special about any of those cities anyway (well, except maybe Austin, but the more like Dallas it tries to be, the less that holds true.) I'm not going to complain if companies want to move here, but I'd rather see us focus on developing local businesses and creating a culture of creativity and entrepreneurship rather than becoming just another big American city.

Are you for real?? Who says a corporate climate has to be stuffy? And do you really confuse Atlanta with Chicago? And if you want to see a city creating a culture of creativity and entrepreneurship, I would suggest you visit Seattle...it also happens to have great a skyline and is home to sizable corporations...yet people still love it...go figure.

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Posted 03 July 2008 - 08:43 PM

QUOTE (Dcurtis @ Jul 3 2008, 07:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are you for real?? Who says a corporate climate has to be stuffy? And if you want to see a city creating a culture of creativity and entrepreneurship, I would suggest you visit Seattle...it also happens to have great a skyline and is home to sizable corporations...yet people still love it...go figure.


Of course a corporate climate doesn't HAVE to be stuffy, it's just that the "mood" usually associated with corporate relocations aren't anything to write home about. I doubt MillerCoors would really be any different. And thanks, been to Seattle (great city), and yes it is home to sizeable corporations...most of which are home-grown businesses who've hit it big (Starbucks, Amazon, Microsoft, etc.) It's certainly a more worthwhile example to emulate than Dallas. Not trying to knock Dallas (really), just saying; what's the point of growth (both physical and economic) in Fort Worth if we're just going to become a slightly smaller version of our neighbor to the east? At that point, why not just give up and assume the role of "large suburb" that the world already assigns to us (when it even bothers to remember that we exist)? dry.gif

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Posted 03 July 2008 - 08:54 PM

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I just wonder what Fort Worth city leaders are doing to encourage job growth - however it occurs - particularly in the downtown and city core areas. You don't hear much from City Hall on their efforts. You certainly haven't heard many successes lately. I just point this out because I think the Fort Worth's growth and urbanization efforts in the future - in fact, any city's growth and urbanization efforts - will be affected by its citizens proximity to work - the closer the better. Gas is becoming too expensive to afford long commutes...

Completely agree. The more GOOD jobs in the central city the better, and it doesn't ever seem like the council is doing much to change things. Maybe that has something to with the local media (our joke of a newspaper and biased TV outlets), but even then, the current council (and especially the mayor) just sound clueless about how to competently run and enhance our city. I'd still like to see a council that also made a solid effort to use new jobs to set FW apart from other cities, especially in our part of the country, but the more I think about how elections tend to represent the willpower of the people, the more I feel that the citizens of our city are content to just let it idle away while the rest of the world moves forward... shakehead.gif

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Posted 04 July 2008 - 08:00 AM

A focus on low cost and tax breaks attracts bottom feeders who will always be looking for lower cost locations. They also will not tend to spend in the community.

The alternative is to attract based on high quality work force and quality of life for executives. The telecom corridor feeds on itself as there is a large labor pool of electronic wizards, starting from Texas Instruments and moving forward through the decades. Fort Worth is actually starting to see some of that type effect spinning off the aerospace industry as companies (Sikorsky and others) are setting up shop to be near Lockheed Martin either to supply or to grab talent. What we haven't seemed to do is attract the brainpower side of the logistics world, beyond BNSF, of course. We have warehouses and rail yards and Alliance, but we don't have the professionals and executives arriving, unless I'm just missing it.

Agreed, though, Dallas is out-selling FW on the corporate front. And then there's the herd instinct. A company looking for a central US location may choose the metroplex, but then they ask, "Where is everyone else locating?" and they get Dallas (or it's northern burbs).

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Posted 04 July 2008 - 07:13 PM

QUOTE (mosteijn @ Jul 3 2008, 09:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'd still like to see a council that also made a solid effort to use new jobs to set FW apart from other cities, especially in our part of the country


Love your thinking. How about designating a couple or more of the city's urban villages (great concept, btw) as urban entrepreneurship zones? Take some of that gas money (unless, in fact, it's a myth) and subsidize office space, T-1 lines, tax breaks, grants for capital and start up costs, etc. and advertise across the country that Fort Worth is looking to host and will fund the incubation of new business ideas for the 21st century. Market the idea to universities that have strong entrepreneurship programs (Baylor comes to mind locally). Target emerging industries like alternative energy, bio-medicine, technology to reduce greenhouse gasses, technology around the new generation of the internet, nanotech, and well designed and affordable prefab housing (just to name a few). Link Fort Worth to cutting edge 21st entrepreneurship like Austin is to music, Dallas is to finance and fashion, and Houston is to oil. Make Fort Worth THE destination for dreamers who want to try a new business. City leaders are gonna have to spend a little money and a lot of political and personal relationship capital to move an idea like this. But wouldn't it be fantastic!

Down here in the state capital, they call ineffective legislators "furniture." Which, if applied to the current Fort Worth Mayor and City Council, means FW City Hall should probably be renamed "Haverty's!" Mosteijn: any interest in moving back to FW and running for city council?

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Posted 05 July 2008 - 01:53 AM

Miller should to stay in Ft. Worth because Fort Worthians like me support their product on these very hot summer weekends It's watery, but we must stay hydrated rolleyes.gif

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Posted 05 July 2008 - 09:13 AM

Hydation is a good thing. Plus those small cans and contents serve as personal floatation devices. Not really but a play on words.

Sitting shoulder deep on the pool steps, open a MillerCoors. Both body and Can are equal bouyant.
As you transfer the contents to the body, the fluid releases carbonated bubbles, and the body will become more bouyant.

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Posted 06 July 2008 - 01:11 PM

My $.02:

I see the "metroplex" as a likely contender for MillerCoors, since we have breweries here and a distribution center in Denton (albeit privately owned). I can only hope City Hall isn't sitting on its hands and waiting for them to pick us, and that they are being proactive. I am interested to hear how this will turn out.

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 01:17 PM

Dallas in run-off for MillerCoors HQDallas Business Journal - by Bill Hethcock Staff Writer
The Dallas area and Chicago appear to be the finalists for the headquarters of the MillerCoors joint venture, with a final decision expected to be announced by the end of the month, according to sources familiar with the search.

Real estate brokers in both cities feel sure that the headquarters is heading their way, said Dale Ray, managing director of the Dallas office of Jones Lang LaSalle, a worldwide real estate services provider.

Ray was in JLL's corporate headquarters in Chicago when reached by the Dallas Business Journal.

"They're hearing here that (MillerCoors) has picked Chicago, and we're hearing it's Dallas," he said. "There's enough discussion about it being down to (Chicago and Dallas) that it seems to have some traction to it."

Ray, who is not directly involved in the search, said MillerCoors has scouted locations in downtown Dallas and the suburbs, including Plano, Frisco and the Las Colinas area of Irving. Ray said he's heard the company is looking for 150,000 to 300,000 square feet.

MillerCoors will decide where to locate by the end of the month, said Julian Green, a spokesman for the company. He would not say whether the search has been narrowed, how much space the company is looking for, or how many jobs the headquarters will involve.

"We are actively engaged in a search for our headquarters, and a decision will be made soon," he said. "What operations will move and what corporate functions will be at the headquarters are decisions that remain to be made."

MillerCoors currently leases 12,357 square feet for a regional office at Hall Office Park in Frisco, said Jean Farris, director of leasing for Hall Financial Group. She declined to say whether MillerCoors had scouted the Frisco park as a possible site for its headquarters.

Farris said MillerCoors is looking for less headquarters space than it originally planned because the joint venture will maintain substantial operations in Milwaukee and Golden, Colo. MillerCoors LLC is the recently formed joint venture of London-based SABMiller, whose U.S. operations are based in Milwaukee, and Golden, Colo., where it has Coors Brewing Co., the Denver subsidiary of Molson Coors Brewing Co.

Farris also said the search has been narrowed to Chicago and the Dallas area.

"It's very sought after," Farris said. "I think any city would want it. It would be great for the Dallas area to win."

The MillerCoors headquarters competition between Chicago and Dallas-Fort Worth is reminiscent of 2001, when the Boeing Co. shortlisted both cities, along with Denver, after deciding to move from Seattle, Ray said. Chicago won that battle, but much has changed since then, he said.

Dallas is proving remarkably resilient during tough economic times, and the city has the advantage in terms of real estate costs, the quality of available labor and quality of life, Ray said. "I believe Dallas has the edge," he said.

Dallas' central business district has changed for the better as well, said Mike Wyatt, executive director of the Dallas office of Cushman & Wakefield of Texas Inc. Boeing in 2001 cited the cultural amenities of Chicago when it chose the Windy City, but downtown Dallas has made great strides to improve the museum, art, dining and entertainment scene downtown, as well as the public transportation system, he said.

"Both cities are strong," Wyatt said. "We're such a pro-business city. I think that may help us this time around."



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Posted 10 July 2008 - 02:12 PM

Frankly, I'd rather see the laws that handicap small, quality local brewers like, oh, I don't know, RAHR, get repealed.

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Posted 20 July 2008 - 07:58 PM

My guess is Downtown Dallas or Las Colinas if the Miller HQ decided to make Dallas their new home.

Those are really the two best spots if you are looking to relocate a company.


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Posted 20 July 2008 - 08:21 PM

Well seems Chicago has won.

MillerCoors Selects Chicago as Headquarters Site

MILWAUKEE (July 15, 2008) – MillerCoors announced its new corporate headquarters will be located in Chicago. According to company spokesperson Julian Green, the decision to select Chicago as a neutral location for our corporate headquarters reflects the need for balance between the legacy companies as we seek to create the best beer company in America. We plan to maintain significant operations in Milwaukee and Golden by making investments in both our breweries and locating the headquarters of our Eastern and Western Divisions and regional sales offices, as well as significant parts of our Operations, Finance, IT and HR divisions in our hometowns. In addition, we will continue to make major investments in civic, cultural and sports sponsorships throughout Wisconsin and Colorado. Milwaukee will always be the home of Miller beer, and Golden will always be the home of Coors beer.

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Posted 20 July 2008 - 09:54 PM

I guess I'm having a celebratory Miller while in The Windy City this week. Better there than Big D I say.
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Posted 21 July 2008 - 07:14 AM

I thought this was one of the better debates on the forum. Good stuff from mosteijn, ramjet and all.

ghughes comments about electronics wizards was close to home for me. As I look out my window at the little 5 house cul-d-sac across the street, those houses are occupied by 3 people in the IT business and I believe they all work in Los Colinas, then 1 airplane pilot and a guy that works out of his home for GM. Everyone heads east to go to work, except the GM guy.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 10:22 AM

It was a wonderful debate full of local insight. However, we have been talking about this Local Economic Facotry for quite some time now, especially during the local elections. I guess logic gets thrown out the window in the booth.
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Posted 21 July 2008 - 10:59 AM

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I guess I'm having a celebratory Miller while in The Windy City this week. Better there than Big D I say.


That's a good strategy. You don't benefit directly or indirectly. Hooray for no growth whatsoever.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 08:58 PM

Well not exactly. I still have certain marketing promotions with them and my business. Therefore I might have to catch a flight or two a year out of DFW to O'Hare for certain business engagements. So Tarrant could still win here, a lil bit.

Now only if Shiner or Diageo NA would relocate??? I so loathe BradleyIA.

But at the end of the day, it makes for a good conversation over a Miller while in Chicago. I am sure 99% of Chicago has no idea that this just came about. But when it comes to conversations and unique personalities, I'm choosing the Chi-town scene over the Big-D's ANY DAY! That is more or less what I meant to say.
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Posted 25 March 2022 - 11:30 AM

https://www.tdlr.tex.../TABS2022014921

 

PROJECT
Project Name:
Molson Coors Warehouse Addition
Project Number:
TABS2022014921
Facility Name:
Molson Coors
Location Address:
7001 South Fwy
Fort Worth, TX 76134
Location County:
Tarrant
Start Date:
6/1/2022
Completion Date:
4/1/2023
Estimated Cost:
$30,000,000
Type of Work:
Additions to Existing Building
Type of Funds:
This project is privately funded, on private land for private use.
Scope of Work:
Finished Product Warehouse Addition
Square Footage:
210,000 ft 2
Are the private funds provided by the tenant?
No
 
OWNER
Owner Name:
Molson Coors, LLC
Owner Address:
3939 West Highland Blvd.
Milwaukee , Wisconsin 53201
Contact Name:
Dan Schantz
 
DESIGN FIRM
Design Firm Name:
Hixson
Design Firm Address:
659 Van Meter Street
Cincinnati, Ohio 45202
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