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[Dylan]

What is not being acknowledged is that Arlington has evolved.

Certain communities are perfectly content to remain passive bedroom in nature (Keller, Colleyville, Highland Park, Grand Prairie) while cities like Frisco, Arlington, Irving compete with and win corporate relocations that traditionally went to Dallas and Fort Worth.

In 1950-60's, Arlington may have been a sleepy passive bedroom community, but with the advent of General Motors, (top tier GM plant with support industries) and Six Flags, Arlington transformed into the largest tourism city in Texas and began to challenge Fort Worth for supremacy in Tarrant County. In fact, Arlington has its own set of bedroom communities (Mansfield, Dalworthing Gardens).

Arlington touts tourism, manufacturing and higher education as it major industries.

Former Arlington Mayor, Richard Greene took the gloves off when he spoke bluntly to Dallas saying "Arlington is no one's damn suburb".

It's funny how Richard Greene claims "Arlington is nobody's damn suburb," but wrote an article about the Dallas-Fort Worth Turnpike and how Arlington was the perfect place for the two cities to meet.
 
https://www.star-tel...e230690884.html
 
Much of Arlington exists because of its proximity to Fort Worth and Dallas. Arlington is a suburb.

 

EDIT: Plano, Frisco, and Irving are also suburbs. They exist largely because of their proximity to Dallas.

[renamerusk]

I think the Former Mayor was touting the strategic location of Arlington which allowed then and allows today for Arlington to benefit from being between the two largest cities in North Texas. 

 

I think that Arlington has done quite well using its strategic location to grow its economic base of tourism, logistics and education. 

 

You can say that Arlington was once a prototypical suburb 5 decades ago, but the decentralization of the region into multiple economic centers no longer applies to Arlington or Collin County cities that have evolved into major employment centers.  You would presumably agree that there still remain prototypical suburbs such as Richland Hills, Bedford, Saginaw, Lancaster and Mesquite; none of who are anything like Arlington, Frisco or Irving's Las Colinas.

[Dylan]

As far as I'm concerned, cities with large employment centers are still suburbs if they were developed because of their proximity to an established metro anchor.

[rriojas71]

As far as I'm concerned, cities with large employment centers are still suburbs if they were developed because of their proximity to an established metro anchor.

Without Dallas and Fort Worth there would be no Texas Rangers playing in Arlington Stadium, there would not have been a Six Flags or Hurricane Harbor, there would not have been a GM plant, there would be no Globe Life Field, no Cowboys Stadium and no new Globe Life Park.   Those things are all that Arlington has to offer besides UTA, which probably wouldn't be in Arlington without FW and Dallas.  So in essence there would be no Arlington.

 

Get back in line with the other suburbs... Arlington.

[renamerusk]

Well, all of this Arlington dishing smacks of Paternalism.

[panthercity]

Saw this morning that MoH museum will be in Arlington. Just north of Globe Life Park and expected opening date is 2024.

[panthercity]

Architect for the MOH has been selected.
http://www.fortworth...a2151656ec.html

[JBB]

A rendering of the museum was released this week:

 

https://mohmuseum.or...ing-totals-rev/

 

I've read "east of AT&T Way and Nolan Ryan Expressway" for the placement, but it's difficult to pin down an exact location based on the rendering.  It looks like it's either just east of the youth ballpark or on the site of the youth ballpark.

[elpingüino]

KERA: Arlington country club closure opens 100 acres of land. What do developers want to build?

Referring to Rolling Hills Country Club, the "last large patch of green space in north Arlington."

[Jeriat]

KERA: Arlington country club closure opens 100 acres of land. What do developers want to build?

Referring to Rolling Hills Country Club, the "last large patch of green space in north Arlington."

 

Honestly, I say this needs to happen a bit more often than it does . . . 

[steave]

It would make a good extension to that modern apartment district that's nearby. Though the people backing up to it probably wouldn't like that. Maybe townhomes or something. It should definitely be denser than just SFH's though, or they keep it as open space.

[Jeriat]

'We're awake': Arlington, no longer a bedroom community, is aiming to create its own skyline

https://www.wfaa.com...cc-006b984f2819

 

   


Plano has a skyline... Frisco has a skyline... Irving has a Skyline... even Denton has a Skyline...

NONE of those cities are in any real competition with Dallas or Fort Worth. 

[Jeriat]

Goes without saying that Arlington has a new convention center on the way, tons of hotel rooms, three professional sports stadiums and the e-sports stadium and two amusement parks, Texas Live all within a mile.  That sounds pretty attractive if I were planning a big time event and having to choose where to host it especially if more hotels were to pop-up here in the future.  I could totally see the need for a mid-sized concert venue space too.....like for non-stadium sized acts similar to Toyota Music Factory or some of the Vegas style casino venues for magicians, music, and comedians....something midsized / indoor with a raked floor seating.

Right, but it's still a suburb... and none of those things will make it any less of one. 

My whole point was the bit about the skyline (which Arlington kinda has one, already) and saying it's not a bedroom community when I'm pretty sure the majority of people who live there work somewhere else. 

[eastfwther]

 

NONE of those cities are in any real competition with Dallas or Fort Worth. 

 

 

Well,  Arlington did  lure D.R. Horton from Fort Worth and it now seems that the city is way more serious about luring white collar jobs there than Fort Worth has been. If you haven't noticed, these white collar office jobs and relocations are running to the suburbs, so why shouldn't Arlington throw its hat in the ring? 

 

 Ask Dallas leaders if Plano, Frisco, Irving, Mckinney are "competition".  I guarantee you they'll disagree with your assertion that they are not.  I applaud Arlington's attempt to land some of these jobs that continue to go to the Dallas side of the metro and I would love to see office towers going up somewhere in Tarrant County!   

 

Plus, the very idea that these "cities" are no competition to Fort Worth (Dallas doesn't think that way) is exactly why Fort Worth is left out of these conversations.  It's why our few office towers are turned into hotels, junior colleges  and city halls, and why it took 30 years before a new office building was built downtown. 

 

It's not that the burbs are no competition to Fort Worth; in regards to white collar jobs, it's more that Fort Worth is no competition to the suburbs. 

[Jeriat]

 

 

NONE of those cities are in any real competition with Dallas or Fort Worth. 

 

 

Well,  Arlington did  lure D.R. Horton from Fort Worth and it now seems that the city is way more serious about luring white collar jobs there than Fort Worth has been. If you haven't noticed, these white collar office jobs and relocations are running to the suburbs, so why shouldn't Arlington throw its hat in the ring? 

 

 Ask Dallas leaders if Plano, Frisco, Irving, Mckinney are "competition".  I guarantee you they'll disagree with your assertion that they are not.  I applaud Arlington's attempt to land some of these jobs that continue to go to the Dallas side of the metro and I would love to see office towers going up somewhere in Tarrant County!   

 

Plus, the very idea that these "cities" are no competition to Fort Worth (Dallas doesn't think that way) is exactly why Fort Worth is left out of these conversations.  It's why our few office towers are turned into hotels, junior colleges  and city halls, and why it took 30 years before a new office building was built downtown. 

 

It's not that the burbs are no competition to Fort Worth; in regards to white collar jobs, it's more that Fort Worth is no competition to the suburbs. 

 

Yes, that's all well and good, but are people moving to Arlington for Arlington? 

Because according to the last census, no one's moving there, at all. In fact, they're leaving...

I get what you're saying, but "competition" goes further than just white collar jobs. 

[Stadtplan]

I picked up some food at Mellow Mushroom a few weeks ago and was suprised at how many new residential units were downtown.  Albeit, right next to the railroad tracks but was very walkable and felt safe.  The new library was nice too.

[JBB]

I saw this last week and forgot to post it.  It looks as if the Drury Plaza construction could resume soon.

 

https://www.keranews...uld-resume-soon

[Stadtplan]

About time!

[Stadtplan]

Fort Worth firm (Trademark) set to close on well-known retail center owned by Blackstone affiliate

https://www.bizjourn...oln-square.html

[John T Roberts]

I can remember when Lincoln Square was built at Collins (FM 157) and I-30 in Arlington.  It was one of the city's premier shopping centers.  It has fallen on hard times lately, and Trademark is planning a big redevelopment of the site.

 

https://fortworthrep...e-in-arlington/

 

[Stadtplan]

I saw this last week and forgot to post it.  It looks as if the Drury Plaza construction could resume soon.

 

https://www.keranews...uld-resume-soon

 

I drove by and there appears to be a construction office compound and dirt being turned once again onsite.  If I think of it, I'll try and grab a couple photos next time.

[Austin55]

Between this development, everything going on North of UTA in downtown Arlington, and the stuff around the Ballpark, and the conversion of Rolling Hills CC into a mixed-use neighborhood, Arlington could have a few nice urban-ish neighborhoods 

[John T Roberts]

Arlington needs these "urbanish" neighborhoods.  Back when I was attending UTA from 1976 until 1983, there were very few places of interest in the city, except for UTA, Six Flags, and the old Arlington Stadium. 

[JBB]

I drove by there last Sunday and noticed the same thing.

[Stadtplan]

I am trying to post an image directly from my phone for the first time.

https://i.imgur.com/REX3dbW.jpg

Im embarrassed to say I can no longer find the post image buttons in Full Version or Mobile version. Any suggestions?

[Stadtplan]

I am trying to post an image directly from my phone for the first time.

https://i.imgur.com/REX3dbW.jpg

Im embarrassed to say I can no longer find the post image buttons in Full Version or Mobile version. Any suggestions?

 

I tried another browser on my phone with no luck posting an image.  One thought was I could insert the hyperlink into the HTML code and see if it picks that up.  Both the Mobile Version and the Full Version no longer have the image insert button on message editor mode.  

 

[img]https://i.imgur.com/iiDFEuz.jpg[/img]

[Stadtplan]

This is big news for the region.  Globe Life Field get 2024 All Star Game.  Lots of festivity typically surrounding that, hopefully Fort Worth can tap into it:

 

https://www.star-tel...e268879927.html

 

A buddy said in '95 they went to the Dallas Convention Center for some pregame events and interactions.  It's called All Star Week so more than just a game, you've got the HR derby, all kinds of stuff going on.

[elpingüino]

Commissioner Rob Manfred: "Major League Baseball is pleased to award the 2024 All-Star Game to the Rangers and the Cities of Arlington and Fort Worth, which presented a robust bid for All-Star Week."

[JBB]

I worked a large outdoor gala event ahead of the 95 All Star Game and it was a lot of fun.  The game was on Tuesday and I think the event was after the Home Run Derby on Monday.  That sounds right because I remember it running until midnight.  The ASG activities are pretty isolated to the 2 days of events because they get the heck out of Dodge once the game is over, so it doesn't have quite the week of festivities as the Super Bowl.  That said, there's definitely hosting opportunities.  I'm glad Fort Worth was included in the announcement.

[Jeriat]

And, I don't usually go this route, but I remember a certain politician in this state saying "the state will not seek to host an All-star Game or any other MLB special events" last year.

 

Either MLB knows something we don't or that person in office doesn't have nearly as much power and pull as he says he does... 

[JBB]

They don't need his blessing or permission.  He just said that in light of Atlanta losing the game on the off chance that it got him some cheap political points on a national stage ahead of his inevitable unsuccessful presidential run. 

[claxton]

I worked a large outdoor gala event ahead of the 95 All Star Game and it was a lot of fun.  The game was on Tuesday and I think the event was after the Home Run Derby on Monday.  That sounds right because I remember it running until midnight.  The ASG activities are pretty isolated to the 2 days of events because they get the heck out of Dodge once the game is over, so it doesn't have quite the week of festivities as the Super Bowl.  That said, there's definitely hosting opportunities.  I'm glad Fort Worth was included in the announcement.

MLB has expanded the ASG experience quite a bit since we last had it here in '95. It will likely cover the previous weekend and include a fan fest and the first couple rounds of the MLB draft (among other events). Here's a link to what was done in Los Angeles this year. https://www.mlb.com/...tar-week-events

[Stadtplan]

I saw this last week and forgot to post it.  It looks as if the Drury Plaza construction could resume soon.

 

https://www.keranews...uld-resume-soon

 

I drove by the other day and saw there were actual workers working and concrete pumping at Drury.  This thing is finally going vertical.  I happened upon a youtuber that does a lot of hotel reviews and him and his wife said they really like the Drury Inn brand.

 

[JBB]

I drove by a couple of months ago and noticed that there was noticeable activity on the site.  Office trailers and dirt moving.

 

Drury just opened a massive resort hotel outside of Disney World in Orlando and I've heard nothing but good reviews.

[elpingüino]

Big cover feature on the Sunday front page of the Star-Telegram,
Suburbia? Not anymore. How Arlington's $1B in projects will reshape the heart of DFW

[Stadtplan]

Drury is taking shape:

[Stadtplan]

Drury construction update:

[FunkyTownTay]

There are also some large cranes over close to Globe Life/Loews Hotel area. Ive seen them from i30. Not sure if they are for the MoH museum or for the next phase of Texas Live with the apartments.

[JBB]

I feel like I remember seeing a tower crane for the MOH museum when I was in the area back in the fall.

[Stadtplan]

Tons of crane activity in Central Arlington:

 

[Stadtplan]

S-T: "Upscale apartments steps from Arlington stadiums accepting applications. Here’s the cost"

https://www.star-tel...e277534118.html

 

 

 

Here's one I took of the National Medal of Honor Musuem:

[TLA]

S-T: "Upscale apartments steps from Arlington stadiums accepting applications. Here’s the cost"
https://www.star-tel...e277534118.html
 

 
 
Here's one I took of the National Medal of Honor Musuem:

There’s so much potential for the empty lots and fields. Will be cool to see this trend of residential in the area continue, then hopefully office space. This seems like it could be similar to Frisco’s Hall Park/The Star eventually.

[Stadtplan]

Heres a closer view of the Medal of Honor Museum:

[JBB]

I saw a few social media posts about the structure topping off last week.

[Stadtplan]

Drury Plaza Hotel is taking shape:

[JBB]

I noticed it when I drove by a couple of weeks ago.  We're going to a concert at AT&T next summer and would like to spend the night around there afterward and the rates at Drury were significantly less than the Lowe's hotels.

[Stadtplan]

I noticed it when I drove by a couple of weeks ago.  We're going to a concert at AT&T next summer and would like to spend the night around there afterward and the rates at Drury were significantly less than the Lowe's hotels.

Im pretty sure you get included with your stay at Drury a full hot breakfast buffet and an evening snack bar with cold drinks at their 5:30 Kickback.

[Austin55]

Loew's is open: https://www.prnewswi...-302060774.html
 

[JBB]

The ground floor at the entry was still a huge mess when I went to a playoff game in October.  They pulled that together quickly.

[Austin55]

Update on Lincoln Square via DMN: https://www.dallasne...lanning-zoning/