Yes. The diversion channel goes through part of that land.
Trinity River Vision
#1901
Posted 21 June 2022 - 02:36 PM
#1903
Posted 22 June 2022 - 08:33 AM
The old Tandy Subway carbarn (The Shack) will ultimately be demolished as it is in the footprint of the proposed diversion structure/gate for the bypass channel.
Isn't The Shack the structure next to the "K" in "CLEAR FORK GATE" in Nitixope's picture below? If so it appears to survive construction, along with the rest of the Pavilion parking lot. Am I reading the picture wrong, or is it out of date, or what?
#1904
Posted 22 June 2022 - 02:09 PM
The old Tandy Subway carbarn (The Shack) will ultimately be demolished as it is in the footprint of the proposed diversion structure/gate for the bypass channel.
Isn't The Shack the structure next to the "K" in "CLEAR FORK GATE" in Nitixope's picture below? If so it appears to survive construction, along with the rest of the Pavilion parking lot. Am I reading the picture wrong, or is it out of date, or what?
What you have posted is a schematic or a sketch, not a construction document. It has been a few years since I reviewed the construction documents (and I forget what percent they were drawn to), but the embankment that led to the gate started on top of The Shack site.
Besides having seen the plans, recall that I was trying to lease the building from the TRWD. They were willing to lease it to us with the understanding that it would be demolished at some point in the future to accommodate the plan.
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#1906
Posted 22 June 2022 - 04:27 PM
I'm suprised they actually have construction documents with all the futzing around they've been doing.
There has to be a certain percentage of design so you know which properties to acquire and to do the hydrology calculations, etc. Maybe "construction documents" is not the right term, but the plans definitely exist in much greater detail than the sketches. I spent a little time looking for them online today, but no luck.
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#1907
Posted 22 June 2022 - 04:45 PM
Yep. There's a lot to unpack there. 17 years.
#1909
Posted 22 June 2022 - 08:33 PM
I'm suprised they actually have construction documents with all the futzing around they've been doing.
Here's a newer sketch-up I found on their website showing some development east of Panther Island Pavilion (Marker #18). Looks like they are turning that into greenspace.
I guess I never noticed these tall structures before or if I did, I blocked it out of my memory:
If the circle in the bottom photo is supposed to reference the top, it's incorrect. It would be on the left, next to (future) City Hall.
The physical model of that area is basically going to be the new stage for Panther Island Pavilion.
#1910
Posted 22 June 2022 - 08:50 PM
Jeriat, I think the circles were for 2 separate comments. I don't believe they were meant to be related.
#1911
Posted 22 June 2022 - 08:58 PM
Jeriat, I think the circles were for 2 separate comments. I don't believe they were meant to be related.
Ah.
#1912
Posted 09 September 2022 - 11:51 AM
FYI, Kay Granger voted AGAINST the bill that provides the money to the Corps of Engineers. She's quite eager to take credit for it, though.
As expected . . .
"Biden calls out Republicans who took credit for infrastructure legislation they opposed"
(Kay Granger is mentioned by name)
https://www.cnn.com/...-law/index.html
Yeah, I mentioned that (to a few people) on twitter... that's all I'm going to say.
#1913
Posted 15 November 2022 - 08:15 AM
#1914
Posted 15 November 2022 - 09:04 AM
I think that's probably still a little optimistic, but it's nice to see them being more realistic when it comes to setting expectations. As I've said before, overselling the project has been my biggest issue for years.
As the project enters its next phase of planning and construction. it is shedding some of its old baggage. Former water district employee JD Granger’s LLC, JD Granger Group, will no longer be involved in the project. The company’s six-month contract with the water district ended October 31, Tarrant Regional Water District Spokesman Chad Lorance confirmed.Lorance did not elaborate on why the contract was not renewed.
Shocking.
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#1915
Posted 15 November 2022 - 10:03 AM
I think that's probably still a little optimistic, but it's nice to see them being more realistic when it comes to setting expectations. As I've said before, overselling the project has been my biggest issue for years.
As the project enters its next phase of planning and construction. it is shedding some of its old baggage. Former water district employee JD Granger’s LLC, JD Granger Group, will no longer be involved in the project. The company’s six-month contract with the water district ended October 31, Tarrant Regional Water District Spokesman Chad Lorance confirmed.Lorance did not elaborate on why the contract was not renewed.
Shocking.
The ONLY reason why I'm more optimistic about this finishing...
#1917
Posted 15 November 2022 - 10:16 AM
At the very least, the updated timeline gives some hope of visible progress in the coming year. The graphic at the top of the story is very well done. I would embed it here, but it's not linked in a compatible file type and I don't have time to save it and post it myself.
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#1919
Posted 15 November 2022 - 01:03 PM
Hopefully more development is announced soon. It's been six years since Encore Panther Island was announced, and so far that's been it.
Yes I agree however not many developers were interested in promoting something in an area that was under so much scrutiny while also being audited. I think now that the USACE is involved and they have delivered a timeline it should help with garnering more outside interest. Of course our current economic situation isn't helping but as things turn around I predict you will see more announcements in the next 2 to 3 years. One caveat to that would be if there is no movement or further delays come to fruition.
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#1920
Posted 15 November 2022 - 05:35 PM
You can bet the gop lead house will try and neuter this project in the coming years.
#1921
Posted 15 November 2022 - 05:41 PM
You can bet the gop lead house will try and neuter this project in the coming years.
But a GOP politician was behind this project from the start.
#1922
Posted 16 November 2022 - 09:29 AM
You can bet the gop lead house will try and neuter this project in the coming years.
But a GOP politician was behind this project from the start.
she's been begging for funds for 20yrs and we've seen how "successful" she's been.
basically if it's not money for things that go BOOM or have the capacity to kill, she doesn't seem to be able to really deliver
#1923
Posted 29 December 2022 - 10:17 PM
#1924
Posted 11 January 2023 - 09:19 AM
The Fort Worth City Council approved bringing on a real estate and economic development consultant for Panther Island.
https://www.star-tel...e271024232.html
#1925
Posted 12 January 2023 - 05:59 PM
More info: https://fortworthrep...sland-makeover/
This seems to be great news. The previous plan was very unambitious.
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#1926
Posted 07 April 2023 - 04:27 PM
https://fortworthrep...land-contracts/
Looks like they have given a completion date for the bypass channel.... the projects official completion date is 2032. Also, they mentioned raising University Dr near the Go Carts which is a interesting twist but one that I mentioned to my partner about 6 or 7 years ago
#1927
Posted 10 April 2023 - 07:43 AM
https://fortworthrep...land-contracts/
Looks like they have given a completion date for the bypass channel.... the projects official completion date is 2032. Also, they mentioned raising University Dr near the Go Carts which is a interesting twist but one that I mentioned to my partner about 6 or 7 years ago
a 30year project... to dig a mile long ditch
as attractive as so many of the renderings put out appear to me, I have to constantly remind myself that the $1B+ price tag includes none of the buildings, all of those are supposed to be constructed by the private market, a market that has been EXTREMELY reluctant to move to the area
#1928
Posted 10 April 2023 - 08:16 AM
the $1B+ price tag includes none of the buildings, all of those are supposed to be constructed by the private market, a market that has been EXTREMELY reluctant to move to the area
Yeh, it's a bit concerning that there's only been one development now, and it's even been done for a while. Encore was announced in October 2016, according to when the thread here was started.
https://fortworthrep...land-contracts/
Looks like they have given a completion date for the bypass channel.... the projects official completion date is 2032. Also, they mentioned raising University Dr near the Go Carts which is a interesting twist but one that I mentioned to my partner about 6 or 7 years ago
Raising University is interesting, that was never discussed before right?
#1929
Posted 10 April 2023 - 09:47 AM
https://fortworthrep...land-contracts/
Looks like they have given a completion date for the bypass channel.... the projects official completion date is 2032. Also, they mentioned raising University Dr near the Go Carts which is a interesting twist but one that I mentioned to my partner about 6 or 7 years ago
Raising University is interesting, that was never discussed before right?
I don't think it has ever been discussed on the forum or anywhere else that I can recollect.
#1930
Posted 10 April 2023 - 10:07 AM
I'm asking this honestly because I've seen this observation more than once: Are we really surprised there's only been one development? Funding has been far from certain until recently and the full cost of the project isn't covered. Once construction on the project starts for real, it's going to be disruptive. I'm personally surprised one development happened.
#1931
Posted 10 April 2023 - 02:39 PM
I'm asking this honestly because I've seen this observation more than once: Are we really surprised there's only been one development? Funding has been far from certain until recently and the full cost of the project isn't covered. Once construction on the project starts for real, it's going to be disruptive. I'm personally surprised one development happened.
Don't worry, these guys are leading the development.
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#1932
Posted 10 April 2023 - 02:49 PM
I'm asking this honestly because I've seen this observation more than once: Are we really surprised there's only been one development? Funding has been far from certain until recently and the full cost of the project isn't covered. Once construction on the project starts for real, it's going to be disruptive. I'm personally surprised one development happened.
Don't worry, these guys are leading the development.
Greenville SC is nice... and they do have a riverfront that's actually been successfully redeveloped...
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#1933
Posted 13 April 2023 - 11:53 PM
I just noticed yesterday that the brick wall surrounding the "Waste Basket" public art piece had a huge chunk of it destroyed as well as a couple of light poles lining the round about are gone. Looks like there must have been some sort of accident that caused the damage. I'm not sure if both things are related to a singular accident but I guess someone didn't yield or entered the roundabout going too fast.
#1934
Posted 17 April 2023 - 11:25 AM
City is diverting money from flood projects to pay for Panther Island work.
It will be very interesting to see how this plays out when it goes before council.
#1935
Posted 06 June 2023 - 07:25 PM
TRWD is razing these structures:
Project Description: 308 Arthur St Removal of office building, foundation and all associated flat-work to back of curbProject Description: 309 Greenleaf St Removal of warehouse with multiple suites, foundation and all associated flat-work to back of curb. Suites included are 313, 319 & 321Project Description: 337 Greenleaf St Removal of building, foundation and all associated flat-work to back of curbProject Description: 200 Arthur St_Acc Bldg Removal of accessory structure including foundationhttps://aca-prod.acc...ShowInspection=
Project Description: 200 Arthur St_Main Bldg Removal of main structure, foundation and all associated flat-work including drives to back of approach
Getting closer . . .
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#1936
Posted 16 June 2023 - 02:09 PM
Not sure if anyone has had a chance to listen, but the Fort Worth Repot recently held a big panel on the topics. There is a LOT to take in.
Article about the discussion: https://fortworthrep...different-lens/
#1937
Posted 17 June 2023 - 09:53 PM
#1938
Posted 17 June 2023 - 10:05 PM
Wish they would add a public Crystal Lagoon to the project. It would be for the city.
Hmm?
#1939
Posted 18 June 2023 - 08:55 AM
Wish they would add a public Crystal Lagoon to the project. It would be for the city.
Hmm?
Looks like an artificial beach: https://www.crystal-lagoons.com/
#1940
Posted 18 June 2023 - 10:11 AM
Crystal Lagoons does say they can use any water source.
Oddly well papered with worldwide intellectual property -- I have not read any of it yet, but they claim a lot of methods to reduce the costs of filtration and treatment. Also slightly unusual that all of their lagoons are technically managed from a single remote facility, although there must be people on-site to restock the chemicals and do equipment maintenance.
https://www.crystal-...ns.com/ip-info/
My first two thoughts are that this, if meant for full public use, is a big use of land. The pitch would have to be made that this elevates the value of the remaining land in excess of the loss from using the land in more conventional ways. Even if we consider it as a city amenity, the operation costs are competing against more conventional uses.
The other thing I wonder is how does it fit in with the look and feel of that location that is in the transitional area between downtown and the historic north side; celebrating the river. The tropical lagoon would probably look out of place.
#1941
Posted 18 June 2023 - 05:31 PM
Crystal Lagoons does say they can use any water source.
Oddly well papered with worldwide intellectual property -- I have not read any of it yet, but they claim a lot of methods to reduce the costs of filtration and treatment. Also slightly unusual that all of their lagoons are technically managed from a single remote facility, although there must be people on-site to restock the chemicals and do equipment maintenance.
https://www.crystal-...ns.com/ip-info/
My first two thoughts are that this, if meant for full public use, is a big use of land. The pitch would have to be made that this elevates the value of the remaining land in excess of the loss from using the land in more conventional ways. Even if we consider it as a city amenity, the operation costs are competing against more conventional uses.
The other thing I wonder is how does it fit in with the look and feel of that location that is in the transitional area between downtown and the historic north side; celebrating the river. The tropical lagoon would probably look out of place.
It would be an economic boom for the city. The city can charge per entrance. There is a Crystal Lagoon being built on Rockwall Lake. People will spend the day on the beach & enjoy the shopping, retail, restaurants of downtown & panther Island. Fort Worth needs more attractions to spice the social scene up.
#1942
Posted 18 June 2023 - 11:44 PM
"Public" Access Lagoon? Must be an English/British company; it sounds more like a "Private" Access Lagoon.
#1943
Posted 19 June 2023 - 06:39 AM
An economic development consultant has been appointed. Article in Fort Worth Inc.
https://fortworthinc...2026E7643790G2W
#1944
Posted 19 June 2023 - 08:24 AM
An economic development consultant has been appointed. Article in Fort Worth Inc.
I'm sure I should have seen this before, but the visual used at the top of the above article is really quite disappointing, envisioning the majority of the development as a sea of square donuts with isolated (and perhaps less-public) spaces inside. I'm sure this is just a shortcut rendering technique to fill up space, but despite all of the greenery it feels like a dystopian view of what that could become. I was hoping for much smaller blocks with a diversity of building types and more walkability, not a sea of medium-sized apartment complexes. Again, I realize that working these things out is exactly what is in progress now, but just the idea that it might end up like that rendering is scary to me.
#1945
Posted 19 June 2023 - 10:53 AM
An economic development consultant has been appointed. Article in Fort Worth Inc.
I'm sure I should have seen this before, but the visual used at the top of the above article is really quite disappointing, envisioning the majority of the development as a sea of square donuts with isolated (and perhaps less-public) spaces inside. I'm sure this is just a shortcut rendering technique to fill up space, but despite all of the greenery it feels like a dystopian view of what that could become. I was hoping for much smaller blocks with a diversity of building types and more walkability, not a sea of medium-sized apartment complexes. Again, I realize that working these things out is exactly what is in progress now, but just the idea that it might end up like that rendering is scary to me.
The rendering is one of those featured in the Trinity River Vision master plan. It's not very descriptive of what Panther Island's economic development would look like. But note the drawing of several high-rise towers on the far north side.
#1946
Posted 19 June 2023 - 11:38 AM
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#1947
Posted 10 July 2023 - 11:46 AM
I don't know if this has been posted elsewhere on the forum, but the Fort Worth Report has an article on comparing the San Antonio River Walk to our Panther Island.
https://fortworthrep...for-fort-worth/
#1948
Posted 03 August 2023 - 10:50 PM
Planners are moving away from the residential-focused original plans and instead envision a district with both residential and a vibrant entertainment hub, outdoor recreation and the potential to attract companies and talent to the city, HR&A’s report said.
Am I missing something...?
#1949
Posted 04 August 2023 - 07:28 AM
I took the quote above as the focus is mixed-use, whereas the emphasis on mostly residential is 20 years old. This is the winning strategy behind 3 high growth, significant areas: W 7th, Near Southside, Stockyards (counting the upcoming apartments and Simple.if’s HQ).
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#1950
Posted 04 August 2023 - 10:18 AM
I read through the report. The mention of Trinity Metro’s streetcar study and reference to transit from Near Southside-DT-Panther Island-Stockyards is heartening. Also, to me is a no-brainer.
I took the quote above as the focus is mixed-use, whereas the emphasis on mostly residential is 20 years old. This is the winning strategy behind 3 high growth, significant areas: W 7th, Near Southside, Stockyards (counting the upcoming apartments and Simple.if’s HQ).
Where did you access the report? Was that a link in the article?
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