Best Steak in Fort Worth?
#1
Posted 31 December 2007 - 05:29 PM
#2
Posted 31 December 2007 - 06:00 PM
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#3
Posted 01 January 2008 - 03:05 PM
I'm sorta responsible for that. One of their food critics is a friend of mine who loves Fred's anyway. I suggested the steaks, which at their best are absolutely glorious, and the rest was history.
Terry does a great job selecting his cuts, then he goes about preparing them in a way seemingly planned to induce cardiac arrest within two weeks. It's not exactly high cuisine, but it is absurdly delicious.
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Posted 01 January 2008 - 03:31 PM
#5
Posted 01 January 2008 - 06:20 PM
http://www.fredstexascafe.com/
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Posted 01 January 2008 - 09:22 PM
#7
Posted 01 January 2008 - 10:09 PM
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#8
Posted 02 January 2008 - 01:39 AM
Dang, I miss Williams Ranch House.
#9
Posted 02 January 2008 - 07:58 AM
Dang, I miss Williams Ranch House.
Man, I usually am on board with the local restaurants and don't like to subscribe to the chain business but I might have to agree with SAFLY because I am a big fan of the Saltgrass steak ... it was pretty damn good for the price. But as far as the best steak I've ever had - hands down - Morton's of Chicago's cajun ribeye was damn near as good as sex - no joke!
#10
Posted 02 January 2008 - 08:04 AM
LOL.
I know you always feel the need to be different for the sake of it, but there is ZERO chance that either of those restaurants makes a better steak than Del Frisco's, the Chop House, Lonesome Dove, or even Silver Fox. I have also had better steaks at Bonnell's and La Piazza. The question wasn't "what is the best steak for the money". It's the best steak, period.
Also, I haven't had a steak at Duce but I did notice that they made it on Texas Monthly's list of top steaks in Texas. I believe Del's was the only other FW restaurant to make the list. I assume Duce gets the same meat as Lonesome Dove, which I have always found to be pretty good.
#11
Posted 02 January 2008 - 08:44 AM
Really? Sounds like you're doing it wrong.
#12
Posted 02 January 2008 - 10:59 AM
haha. it is tough to imagine that a chain could come close to some of these places with real chefs running the kitchens.
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Posted 02 January 2008 - 01:25 PM
#14
Posted 02 January 2008 - 02:29 PM
haha. it is tough to imagine that a chain could come close to some of these places with real chefs running the kitchens.
DADD GUMMIT!
Really? Ok, it's a new year and I have TRIED to change for the better starting on this FORUM. But "NOBODY puts SAFLY in a corner!"
So, if you are going to dis on the chains, which doesn't hurt my feelies one bit, then explain to me WHY Ruth's Chris is THE BIGGEST STEAKHOUSE restaurant in the entire WORLD, and why they keep SEARING ABOVE (ok, that was weak) the competition. In fact, they purchased ANOTHER steakhouse chain months ago. They've got to be doing something right, and we will ALL soon find out. You don't just ramp up operations in the smack dab middle of COWTOWN, across the street from a well known steakhouse mind you, FOR NOTHING. Trust me when I say that when Ruth's Chris arrives here, BIG BALLS will truly be in COWTOWN.
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#15
Posted 02 January 2008 - 03:09 PM
I grew up going to Williams Ranch House and have always enjoyed it thru it's ups and downs....I heard a while back they may be reopening again?
#16
Posted 02 January 2008 - 04:40 PM
while ruth's chris is a chain, the business model is not apples to apples with saltgrass, texas land & cattle and the like.
#17
Posted 02 January 2008 - 05:56 PM
while ruth's chris is a chain, the business model is not apples to apples with saltgrass, texas land & cattle and the like.
Agree. In most cases, you're going to get what you pay for. And if a restaurant is over-priced for what you get, it won't be around too long (couple of notable exceptions can extend the life when a place has buzz or a gimick). Think Il Mulino in Dallas. Fantastic food, fantastically overpriced, and now it's gone.
Bottom line...the argument that SaltGrass serves up the best steak in Fort Worth is ridiculous. Even in the subjective world of food tasting, I have never heard that one. They don't buy the best meat, they don't age it as well, and they don't cook it as well (that last one being more a matter of individual preference than the other 2, I'll admit). When you look on one menu and it says "our beef is Certified Angus", and another menu says "We dry age our U.S.D.A. Prime beef for 45 days", who do you think is spending the time and money to get the customer the best beef?
#18
Posted 02 January 2008 - 06:26 PM
I'd vote for the Fred's ribeye #1, followed by the Lonesome Dove garlic tenderloin.
But just for flavor and fun, I'd rather go to the M&M for one of their garlic-covered steaks.
Some of the chain steakhouses like Hofbrau give you a lot for your money, but not an exceptional steak.
The outlying steakhouses like Mesquite Pit in Weatherford, Loco Coyote in Glen Rose and Lone Camp (?) in Tolar serve better steaks than any Texas steakhouse in the city.
#19
Posted 02 January 2008 - 07:15 PM
As far as chains go, Del Frisco's is a chain and you could say Tim Love is a chain too since he has more than one place, not counting the one that folded in NYC.
Dr Quest is right, there is not any one place than stands head and shoulders above its peers. That said, I have never had a bad steak at Silver Fox. I can't say that about Del Frisco's or the Chop House. I confess, I have never been to the Silver Fox in Ft. Worth but I have been dozens of times to the one in Grapevine and I assume they are similar.
If I was going to send someone out for a great steak I would send them to the Silver Fox because they are batting 1.000 for me.
One other place not mentioned so far, that I like is the Star Cafe in the stockyards.
#20
Posted 02 January 2008 - 08:46 PM
while ruth's chris is a chain, the business model is not apples to apples with saltgrass, texas land & cattle and the like.
Agree. In most cases, you're going to get what you pay for. And if a restaurant is over-priced for what you get, it won't be around too long (couple of notable exceptions can extend the life when a place has buzz or a gimick). Think Il Mulino in Dallas. Fantastic food, fantastically overpriced, and now it's gone.
Bottom line...the argument that SaltGrass serves up the best steak in Fort Worth is ridiculous. Even in the subjective world of food tasting, I have never heard that one. They don't buy the best meat, they don't age it as well, and they don't cook it as well (that last one being more a matter of individual preference than the other 2, I'll admit). When you look on one menu and it says "our beef is Certified Angus", and another menu says "We dry age our U.S.D.A. Prime beef for 45 days", who do you think is spending the time and money to get the customer the best beef?
There are many methods to slightly compensate for NOT buying THE BEST cuts of this or that. With that being said, just go to your YAHOO or GOOGLE search bar and type in "best steak in fort worth", then click on the local results tab. PRESTO!
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#21
Posted 02 January 2008 - 08:53 PM
#22
Posted 02 January 2008 - 10:09 PM
This is what I meant instead of the Packing House. The Packing House was the name of Don's original steak house and cafe in Northside before it moved to where Fuzzy's Taco is now on Berry off University.
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Posted 02 January 2008 - 11:22 PM
#24
Posted 03 January 2008 - 07:18 AM
Thank you, DRIVE THRU.
Now you're not making any sense at all. I see H3 on a few lists of best steakhouses, but most of the commentary just talks about their other food (which I admit is pretty good...I actually like H3). Nowhere do I see H3 or Saltgrass even mentioned on any list as having the best "steak", in Fort Worth or anywhere else.
To your first comment, of course there are ways to compensate for not buying the best meat. But a good chef using the best beef is going to make a better steak than a good chef who is using mediocre beef. Come on.
#25
Posted 03 January 2008 - 09:59 AM
The last several I have cooked at home I cooked in a cast iron skillet at max oven temp (broil) and cooked about 3 min per side and they turned out great. You don't want to try this without an effective vent-a-hood, especially if you dip the seasoned steaks in as much melted butter as I do before dropping into that hot of a skillet. The true blackened method calls for the skillet to be 500 degrees - when it reaches this temp it forms a white spot in the center of the skillet, then the steak is dipped in butter and placed on the skillet. This has to be done outside or in a commercial oven. This is a lot of trouble at home however as you have to use an LP burner and stand to get to this temp and your not suppose to cook more than one steak at a time.
This is why I don't mind paying good money for a good steak. Central Mkt has some of the best beef available and prime goes for $30 and North and not only is it a pain to prepare but bigger pain cleaning up.
#26
Posted 03 January 2008 - 12:19 PM
#27
Posted 03 January 2008 - 01:00 PM
You know with the FW Stockshow and Rodeo just around the corner, you don't think that.... naaaah.
But I wouldn't mind having a RIB-EYE Cookoff in town like they do down in Hico.
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Me personally, I'm a peppercorn and butter kinda guy with lil sea salt.
HHan, just look up SaltGrass under the Yahoo locals for FORT WORTH, there are plenty of reviews (10) that comment about their GREAT STEAK. Have not read a bad local review yet. Come on, get wit it.
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#28
Posted 03 January 2008 - 01:03 PM
I think so... I may have moved here after. The now Rodeo Steakhouse?
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#29
Posted 03 January 2008 - 03:08 PM
As far as those go, the standards, Ruth's Chris, Del Frisco's, and Silver Fox, are very similar. They may vary nightly by who is best, but they all have a similar menu and high standard of service. There are other prime steakhouses that I have not been to, so I can't comment to them, but I would recommend any of these three. I used to go to Ruth's Chris in Austin when it was still on Guadalupe, and many times in New Orleans when I lived there, and can't wait for the DTFW location to open. With Del Frisco's right across the street, I'm sure they're coming ready to play ball. Del Frisco's in FW is as good as any Ruth's Chris I have been to.
To those who would pooh-pooh spending that kind of money, or who want to try to rationalize that it can't be that much better or different... fine, don't go. But if you want to talk about steak: Just for once in your life find a special occasion and go to a usda prime steakhouse. I've never been disappointed in one, and though it may sound absurd, the food and service has always been worth every penny.
#30
Posted 03 January 2008 - 04:40 PM
to both this and the nye topic, lanny's had a few good steak options - kobe beef and carne asada - on their menu. i don't think i would nominate either for best steak in fw, but they were good. i do recommend lanny's in general though.
#31
Posted 03 January 2008 - 06:03 PM
I can't even boil water!
#32
Posted 03 January 2008 - 06:53 PM
Try asking where the best mexican food is.
#33
Posted 03 January 2008 - 07:53 PM
As to the old Keg: had some drinks at the bar with Johnny Mathis' band after a concert that Mrs. ghughes made me go to. Kinda fun in a weird way; the drinks, not the concert.
Steaks are like mortgages: there's prime and there's sub-prime. If they aren't serving prime it can only get so good. I love Hoffbrau for what they do, but I think the best is off my grill with something I buy from Roy Pope. Objectively speaking of course.
#34
Posted 03 January 2008 - 08:58 PM
How do people feel about how it's aged?
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#35
Posted 03 January 2008 - 09:39 PM
I've had the Delf Frisco bone-in and there is not much difference than what I have gotten at two SaltGrass locations.
Now their chateau potatoes are off the GRID!
Until RC's or a Pappa's Steakhouse opens up around here, I'm going with SGrass and saving money.
I thought the topic was who has the BEST Steak in Fort Worth during an economic recession.
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#36
Posted 03 January 2008 - 11:46 PM
Of course I was also amazed at the prices.
#37
Posted 04 January 2008 - 03:56 PM
Since Chris mentioned JR's in Colleyville I have a funny story about that place. For years people have told me how good JR's is and I have driven past there many times, but never stopped. Finally last May I decided to take the plunge.
We took along a friend of my wife's that was very helpful to us when she broke her ankle and went through a couple of surgeries. I had to take time off work to tend to my wife and this lady would visit and bring us food regularly. She has become a valued family friend and we took her with us on most dining nights out until she moved to Minnesota to be near her family.
Anyway, the ladies ordered drinks while we pursing the menu and I was checking the wine list for something to go with dinner. Both ladies got refills on their drinks about the time we gave the waitress our orders. The dinner was terrific and I think we even ordered glasses of dessert wine at the end of the meal. When the bill came I gave it a quick glance, which I don't always do, but when it’s over four hundred before tip I tend to look at it. One line that got my attention was;
Drinks 2@35.00= $70.00
There was also a line that had
Drinks 2@9.00=$18.00 (my wife's)
Now, $9 drinks seems about right for that kind of place, but $35.00 drinks seems way out of line. I don't remember what they had ordered, but they were nothing special that anyone wouldn't order regularly at any dinning establishment.
I had to ask the waitress what the $35 drinks were, because I was sure they were a mistake. She said they had made our friends drink with some top of the shelf, call spirits that caused them to be so expensive. Of course she heard this and jumped in the conversation and said she had just ordered a drink and that when they brought the second one and took the first glass away she still had a little left and had she known it was a $35 drink she would have been sucking the ice cubes to be sure she go her monies worth.
JR's didn't offer to lower the price and I didn't ask them to, so we paid up and hit the road. When ever we get together and drinks come up we relive the tale of the $35 drinks and laugh about it. We also are thankful we could afford it, because that could have been very painful for someone of lesser means out for an infrequent special night.
#38
Posted 04 January 2008 - 05:30 PM
Aging is not the end all tell all about a GREAT STEAK. Bottomline is that , well, it drives up the bottomline. How you tenderize the meats and SEAR the meats just before cooking is of more importance in my book. You can break the meat down with a good beating, but keep in mind to retain those juices. When you sear it correctly those same juices will lose about 25-40% volume, but once that is over just shove her in the oven for a good 2 to 5 minutes and PRESTO!
A-1 on the side just adds to the pleasure.
A well marbled cut of beef just allows the preparer to have a bigger margin for error and still get a great buttery flavored meal.
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#39
Posted 04 January 2008 - 06:13 PM
#40
Posted 04 January 2008 - 06:26 PM
Ruth Fertel, Bless Her Soul
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#41
Posted 04 January 2008 - 06:29 PM
We were working on a job in DC and got stuck in a horrific traffic jam. Long story short, it was Greenspan's wedding reception two blocks away. When we got to the hotel, I asked the concierge to find us some place within walking distance, and he got us into the RC on Conn Ave, two blocks away. We had drinks while we waited and when the bill came, I handed it back and said there had to be a mistake. They charged me $15 a glass for Chateau St. Michelle chardonnay! I thought that was ridiculous, and their response? RC bought the reserve. Big deal, I asked shouldn't they warn people---we were at the Red Sage the night before and with call drinks, they were less. Absolutely ridiculous. Love their food, but haven't returned.
#42
Posted 04 January 2008 - 07:18 PM
I've eaten at Coyote Cafe but never Red Sage. How was it? Wonderful, I'm sure.
These upscale steakhouses have quite a racket. Separating rich people from their money. Must be the highest markups in the business. "Yes, I'll take the $20 baked potato." J-curve pricing at its juiciest.
#43
Posted 05 January 2008 - 01:12 AM
I've eaten at Coyote Cafe but never Red Sage. How was it? Wonderful, I'm sure.
These upscale steakhouses have quite a racket. Separating rich people from their money. Must be the highest markups in the business. "Yes, I'll take the $20 baked potato." J-curve pricing at its juiciest.
The name basically gives the impression that it is STILL a Chris Steakhouse (as in style and service), but since Ruth purchased it and brought it back to life, she gets to put HER signature before the old Chris Steakhouse. So it becomes Ruth's Chris Steakhouse. Just remember that Chris is not Ruth's last name and then you will get it.
I wouldn't change it because it immediately recognizes her efforts and sacrifices, and may also force the waiter or bartender to explain her wonderful humble beginnings with the business.
Agree on the racket. That tater better be wrapped in GOLD FOIL and the utensils better be 18k gold too.
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#44
Posted 05 January 2008 - 02:07 PM
The type of cut, T-bone, flank, etc... the actual cut of the cut, quality of the beef they start with, aging and preparation all play a major role in the end product. Most people don’t realize the difference aging makes, most really don’t want to know about it, but the difference in tenderness is sometimes minor, but I have noticed when prepared right, the difference in flavor is as drastic as “I’m stuffed, don’t think I can finish this!” to “I’m stuffed, loosen up the belt, ‘no, I’m not done yet, what time do you folks open tomorrow?’”
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#45
Posted 05 January 2008 - 03:46 PM
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#47
Posted 05 January 2008 - 08:10 PM
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#48
Posted 05 January 2008 - 09:27 PM
Let us know how it was. I agree with others here that Terry's ribeye is one of the best in town. But the menu is different by the day, so you never know exactly what he'll have. I personally think he keeps things a little too spicy, but I guess that encourages people to drink more beer...
Either way, Fred's is greatness and we're lucky to have it in FW.
#49
Posted 05 January 2008 - 10:41 PM
On a side note, it looks like there should be a city ordinance as to the number of restrooms that are available per seating capacity of restaurants. I'm not singling out Fred's because there are many other places that draw much larger crowds and still have only one for each sex. The only table open at Fred's when we arrived was the two place small one to the left of the front door next to the heads. There were lines going to both that got pretty long at times and on three occasions that I saw, the women were using the mens - which it seems you are seeing more and more of the past several years. With this much traffic it is nearly impossible to keep them clean and well supplied and if one gets stopped up---Oh S---!
#50
Posted 06 January 2008 - 03:44 AM
I hate to drop names, but....
I was running a little late getting ready for Ferguson at the Bass Hall, so I cancelled going for steak and just had leftovers at home. I get through the mediocre opening act and an excellent 90 minute monologue from the star of the show. I am starting to head for the exit when a voice from the next box over hollers my name. It was.....
Mr. & Mrs. Keller Pirate.
Apparently they stole my idea, went to Fred's to try the steak and then watched the show at the Bass Hall. Small world.
(Sorry for ratting you out, KP).
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