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#1 RD Milhollin

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Posted 08 August 2015 - 10:53 AM

Fort Worth Alliance Airport (AFW) approves contract for runway extension:

 

http://www.star-telegram.com/news/business/article30320979.html 

 

This project has been in preparation phases for many years. The main runway will be extended from 9600 to 11000 feet (2880 to 3300 m) in order to be able to handle the largest commercial cargo planes. This has been a pretty big project and has involved buying up lots of adjacent land and diverting a major rail line and a state highway, FM 156. There was also a lot of dirt moved around to build the base for the future runways, and more of that needs to be done before paving starts. There are the usual bureaucratic hitches for multi-year projects inevitable under our federal funding system, but the extension is slated to be ready in about 3 years. This should probably be good for business at Alliance, which still has space in the former AA maintenance facility to lease as well as plenty of vacant land with runway access available for new facilities.



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Posted 10 August 2015 - 09:48 AM

I'm curious what sort of planes and operators will be using the extended runway. Most of what Alliance handles is regional/general aviation planes. Alliance already handles some pretty large cargo planes, FedEx A300's, MD-11's, etc. It seems that a larger runway would really only be benefical to flying in only the largest of large planes, 777's and 747's mostly. I guess there's enough of a market to land things like Korean or Eva Air cargo jets out there, perhaps?



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Posted 10 August 2015 - 10:41 AM

I'm curious what sort of planes and operators will be using the extended runway. Most of what Alliance handles is regional/general aviation planes. Alliance already handles some pretty large cargo planes, FedEx A300's, MD-11's, etc. It seems that a larger runway would really only be benefical to flying in only the largest of large planes, 777's and 747's mostly. I guess there's enough of a market to land things like Korean or Eva Air cargo jets out there, perhaps?

 

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 10:59 AM

It can already handle them and does from time to time.

 



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Posted 10 August 2015 - 03:32 PM

Hmmm, maybe the AN-225?  It's the 124's freakin' BIG brother.


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Posted 16 October 2015 - 09:24 AM

Runway extension project at Alliance Airport finally gets underway. Goal: 11,000 feet x 2 for $61 million

 

http://www.star-tele...le39072471.html



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Posted 16 October 2015 - 10:22 AM

I just wonder sometimes......Does Fort Worth ever see the viablility in having their own version of Love Field?  That is before McKinney National starts flying commercial airlines out of Collin County in the coming 5 years?  Meacham would be great as it's close in and would serve all the great development (tourism and business)_ that is coming in the Trinity basin and Stockyards area.  Jet Blue single-handedly resurected Long Beach Int'l airport some years back by opening up service there which had been absent for some time. With SW's endless push for total monopoly control of Love Field other carriers might want to help FW (and themselves) by giving us a third choice.  You guys are always wailing about how FW gets screwed over by Dallas all the time, here's the chance to change that.  I don't want to hear about the lame ass Wright Amendment anymore either.  It should have never been in place--it hurt everybody and it's a joke that DFW 'needed protection.'  No what was actually the real effect was to lock in American at DFW and SW at Love so there is virtually no competition at either airport and we pay some of the highest air fares in the nation as a result.  Just remember, the McKinney folks are still planning on opening up that airport to the big boys and have only temporarily delayed that decision.  Perot owns much of the land around that airport as of course he totally controls Alliance.  We have to think longer term here. Fort Worth will ultimately be larger in population than Dallas since we can annex abd with the estimated 10+ million people in the DFW area we will need tis additional capacity.   We are a region and other similar-sized areas in the U.S. have 3-5 major airports--greater Los Angeles (6 if you add Lindberg in San Diego)  and South Florida (Palm Beach, Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Sarasota-Bradenton, Tampa-St. Petersburg and SW Florida in Fort Meyers.)  All I'm saying is the dynamics are there and if the 10 gates that were removed from Love (stupid and short-sighted) are not replaced than Love is already almost maxed out in the number of flights it can operate under current regulations and restricition s (as in late-night flights).  I know there are real obstacles to be overcome but the ultimate benefit to Fort Worth will be more than worth it.  If it takes half a decade to get this going than so be it.  Everytime I drive my Meacham I think "What a waste of one of the city's greatest assets."  Maybe this can change.  End of rant! lol



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Posted 16 October 2015 - 10:38 AM

Sorry.  I should probably have put this on the Meacham thread. 



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Posted 16 October 2015 - 06:16 PM

Sorry.  I should probably have put this on the Meacham thread.

Yes, you should have. ;)
Never-the-less, the largest obstacle for Meacham becoming a second Love Field is its longest runway being a relatively short 7501 feet, with the second runway being a really short 4006 feet long. FYI: Love Field's two main runways are 8800 feet and 7752 feet long.
Boeing does build 737s for short runways as short as 1500 meters (around 5,000 feet), but the 4,000 feet runway would be too short for them. And that is a reliability problem some airlines will find difficult.

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Posted 14 February 2017 - 11:12 AM

Alliance building two new hangar for private planes:

http://www.star-tele...medium=facebook

I saw some great aerial shots of their runway extension construction a few weeks ago. It looks like it should be completed soon.

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Posted 20 October 2017 - 12:28 PM

I would love to see the airport construct a large Doppler radar dome on top of their cone-shaped control tower, and then use LED lighting (a la Arlington's Skymark Tower) to shine appropriate colors on the dome (think mint chocolate chip, orange sherbet, Neapolitan, etc.).  Never mind whether or not it's practical or even necessary, it just sounds fun!



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Posted 03 May 2018 - 06:30 AM

Great News. I'm already looking forward to the next runway extension making two cargo airport available to Asia.

 

Having two options for European trade is a big deal, and one that should continue extending the reach of The Metroplex.   

 

https://www.dallasne...beat-texas-heat

 

The industrial-focused airport recently completed a 1,400-foot extension of its main runway out to 11,000 feet, enough to allow FedEx jets and other cargo carriers to take off for mainland Europe on hot days when a shorter runway wouldn’t allow the aircraft to generate the needed lift...."They can get there with a full load of fuel and a full load of cargo,” said Tom Harris, president of Alliance Air/Aviation Services, which operates and manages the city-owned airport....“That's meaningful to FedEx and it's meaningful to us as we promote and market the airport,” Harris said of the extended runways. “Our airport has the same capabilities as any international gateway airport in the country with one exception, commercial passengers.”...Alliance’s initial runways measured 9,600 and 8,200 feet long. By comparison, Love Field’s longest runway is 8,800 feet, while at DFW International Airport four of the seven runways measure 13,400 feet, with the others ranging from 8,500 to 9,300....Further development could see one of Alliance's runway extended to 13,000 feet, potentially enabling fully-loaded freighters to fly nonstop to Asia. But Harris said that's not a pressing need for the airport's current operators and advances in engine technology could help close the gap without lengthening the runway.

 



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Posted 03 May 2018 - 10:28 AM

I had wondered why the extension. The heat explanation makes sense. 



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Posted 22 August 2018 - 12:31 PM

an interesting little write-up about Alliance

 

https://archpaper.co...-logistics-hub/



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Posted 22 August 2018 - 01:10 PM

There is an oil pipe stonehenge?



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Posted 22 August 2018 - 01:33 PM

I thought that was weird too.  I wonder if he's talking about the aerial structures on the roof of old AA maintenance hangar.  Those aren't oil pipelines, but they could be confused for a Stonehenge-like structure.  Strange how the article is implying that "Alliance, Texas" is a town.  It's a name for the development.



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Posted 23 August 2018 - 12:18 PM

I thought that was weird too.  I wonder if he's talking about the aerial structures on the roof of old AA maintenance hangar.  Those aren't oil pipelines, but they could be confused for a Stonehenge-like structure.  Strange how the article is implying that "Alliance, Texas" is a town.  It's a name for the development.

Yeah, we've discussed in the past here about Perot's (I guess it's Perot's) effort to make Alliance a planned community apart from Fort Worth much like Los Colinas apart from Irving.  I don't think it will work in the case of Fort Worth, because north Fort Worth encompasses a lot of territory up there, not just Alliance.  And the airport is still named after Fort Worth.



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Posted 23 August 2018 - 04:32 PM

As an aside there was an AN-124 at AFW this week.

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Posted 23 August 2018 - 06:14 PM

As an aside there was an AN-124 at AFW this week.


I've seen these several times before at Alliance, though it's been a few months since I worked there. Are these uncommon now?

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Posted 23 August 2018 - 06:22 PM

They come through a few times a year. There have been 3 to do fuel stops at DFW in the last 3 days, including 2 on the ground at the same time today.

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Posted 23 August 2018 - 10:14 PM

OK. They are hard to miss. Those things are massive.

Yesterday I saw three Blackhawk helicopters land at Meacham all at once. That was an unusual sight.

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Posted 11 December 2018 - 11:49 AM

Amazon opening regional air hub at Alliance next year:

https://www.dallasne...owTghmS4yRoVkVk

No word on if they're moving operations from DFW or just adding the hub. They already run a number of daily flights through there. As best I can tell, this is only their second hub with the other being at Cincinnati.

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Posted 27 December 2018 - 01:01 PM

Fairly old article but the launch customer for Lockheed's civilian C-130 model (LM-100J) will operate two of them at Alliance,

 

https://www.flightgl...r-lm-13-452647/



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Posted 27 December 2018 - 01:27 PM

They have a website now:

https://www.pallasaviation.com/

One of the certification aircraft spent some time at the local Lockheed plant earlier this year. It may have just been an overnight stay, but I remember seeing photos.

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Posted 14 June 2019 - 03:40 PM

There is an oil pipe stonehenge?

 

I found it. It's part of a paintball course.

 

https://www.google.c...9!4d-97.2485734



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Posted 15 June 2019 - 06:23 PM

Your link takes me to the Sahara Desert. More specifically, Algeria.


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Posted 03 September 2019 - 07:22 PM

The Amazon hub is set to open next month and one of their 767s landed there today to begin ground crew training.



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Posted 20 February 2020 - 07:19 PM

Gulfstream will construct a $35 million aircraft maintenance facility at Alliance, with 200-250 jobs.

https://communityimp...liance-airport/

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Posted 21 February 2020 - 07:28 AM

Gulfstream will construct a $35 million aircraft maintenance facility at Alliance, with 200-250 jobs.

https://communityimp...liance-airport/

This is great news!  The move is a partial relocation to Alliance Airport from Love Field in Dallas.  So, I just wish the first sentence of the article would have read:  "The aviation industry continues to grow in the Fort Worth area..."



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Posted 07 April 2020 - 10:32 AM

Spirit Airlines is using Alliance as storage for grounded planes. 



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Posted 07 April 2020 - 03:02 PM

Looks like the City stands to gain some funds that it can apply elsewhere in its aviation budget.



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Posted 10 April 2021 - 09:26 PM

No idea how long theyve had them but I saw one of the Pallas C-130Js flying over today. It was coming back from College Station and appeared to have done some touch-n-goes at Waco. They are bright white and hard to miss.

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Posted 12 May 2021 - 08:07 AM

Mountain Lion Aviation is launching a charter service at Alliance. “We can fly you to Big Bend for a hike and have you home before dinner”
 

https://www.dallasne...liance-airport/



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Posted 26 July 2021 - 09:23 AM

The Alliance Air Show had previously announced that they were not bringing back static displays again this year and they went into the reason in a social media post today.  Citing the need to keep businesses at the airport in operation, they are moving the activities and viewing areas outside of the airport fence.  It will feature the similar drive up style as last year, but will have another paid viewing area other than the parking lot.

 

This does not surprise me.  The 2019 show wrapped up much earlier in the day compared to previous shows and the rumor was that it was to avoid interfering with Amazon's operations.  Multiple Amazon aircraft took off during breaks in last year's show.



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Posted 14 September 2021 - 10:17 PM

Interesting article on Amazon Air. Alliance is the 2nd busiest airport in the whole operation, only behind their "superhub" in Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky. 
https://www.cnbc.com...locations-.html

Edit - maybe this?
https://www.google.c...locations-.html

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Posted 15 September 2021 - 07:24 AM

Interesting article on Amazon Air. Alliance is the 2nd busiest airport in the whole operation, only behind their "superhub" in Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky. 
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/04/map-of-amazon-air-locations-.html  

Clicked on article but got a "Not found."



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Posted 15 September 2021 - 08:44 AM

 

Interesting article on Amazon Air. Alliance is the 2nd busiest airport in the whole operation, only behind their "superhub" in Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky. 
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/04/map-of-amazon-air-locations-.html  

Clicked on article but got a "Not found."

 

Try this one:

https://cnb.cx/3yHJcSD



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Posted 15 October 2021 - 09:08 PM

https://www.tdlr.tex.../TABS2022003240

 

PROJECT
Project Name: ZMI Office TI
Project Number:
TABS2022003240
Facility Name:
Aviator Way
Location Address:
13901 Aviator Way #170
Fort Worth, TX 76177
Location County:
Tarrant
Start Date:
11/1/2021
Completion Date:
2/15/2022
Estimated Cost:
$600,000
Type of Work:
Additions to Existing Building
Type of Funds:
This project is privately funded, on private land for private use.
Scope of Work:
Open/privates offices, showroom, conference room, break area, and a work area
Square Footage:
19,906 ft 2
Are the private funds provided by the tenant?
No
Current Status:
Project Registered
PERSON FILING FORM
Contact Name:
Adam Nesbit
 
 
OWNER
Owner Name:
ABP No. 2, LLC
Owner Address:
9800 Hillwood Parkway, Ste 300
Fort Worth, Texas 76177
 
Contact Name:
Doug Johnson
TENANT
Not Assigned
 
DESIGN FIRM
Design Firm Name:
RGA Architects
Design Firm Address:
301 S Oak St #100
Roanoke, Texas 76262





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