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#951 Jeriat

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Posted 09 August 2021 - 11:47 AM

 I just wish it was finished yesterday.

The official motto of development for this city...


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Posted 11 September 2021 - 09:49 PM

This looks to be the same pile of dirt....maybe it has grown a little bit.

 

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Posted 15 September 2021 - 03:25 PM

 

permits are in for the office section.
 

New construction of 8 story office building & 6 story       


Beck is the GC as mentioned on the application.

 

 

Here's the New Building Permit filed 9/14/21 for the Multifamily and Spa portions.  Looks like Andres Construction is the GC on this part.

 

https://accela.fortw...ShowInspection=

 

Permit Address
21060036 FOR REVIEW ONLY WAY
 
Record Details
Applicant: Winston Services
Winston Services, Inc.
 
Licensed Professional:
DEBBIE ROLLINS
ANDRES CONSTRUCTION SERVICES, LLC.
3710 RAWLINS ST. STE. 1510
DALLAS, TX, 75213
Bldg - Contractor RB018537
 
Project Description:
Museum Place MF & Spa
Construct new 7 story, 121 unit multifamily with parking garage & future spa/3rd Party Plan Review and Insp/Winston Services
 
Owner:
GPIF CD HOTEL LLC
200 CRESCENT COURT
STE 250
DALLAS TX 76102
 
Site Contact information
Barry Rosenbery
ANDRES CONSTRUCTION SERVICES, LLC.
3710 RAWLINS ST. STE. 1510
DALLAS, TX, 75213
E-mail:
-------@ANDRESCONSTRUCTION.COM
 
COMMERCIALUse: Mixed Use
Specific Use: NA
TDLR Number:TABS2021017013
Sexually Oriented Business: No
MISCELLANEOUS INFORMATION
Expiration Date: 03/13/2022
Commercial/Residential: Commercial
 
THIRD PARTY INFORMATION
3rd Party Inspections:Yes
3rd Party Plan Review:Yes
3rd Party Company: 3Pty Winston Services
 
BUILDING INFORMATION
Urban Forestry Permit Required: Yes
 
CONSTRUCTION INFORMATION
Total Job Value: $37,500,000
Total Square Footage: 295,882
Estimated Cost: $31,000,000
Housing Units:121
 
STRUCTURE INFORMATION
Fire Sprinkler:Yes
 
CONSTRUCTION INFORMATION
 
Occupancy Classification:B
Construction Type:IA
Square Footage:3792
Occupant Load:38
Use Description:office
 
Occupancy Classification:R-2
Construction Type:IA
Square Footage:168554
Occupant Load:843
Use Description: apartments
 
Occupancy Classification:M
Construction Type:IA
Square Footage:27320
Occupant Load:455
Use Description:retail
 
Occupancy Classification:A-3
Construction Type:IA
Square Footage:1718
Occupant Load:115
Use Description:club/deck
 
Occupancy Classification:S-2
Construction Type:IA
Square Footage:94498
Occupant Load:473
Use Description:garage
 
Parcel Number:
21060036
Legal Description:
VAN ZANDT'S HILLSIDE ADDITION BLK 2; lot 4R1


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Posted 17 September 2021 - 08:29 PM

Tonight they were setting up at tent.  Ground breaking soon?



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Posted 18 September 2021 - 06:43 AM

The groundbreaking ceremony is scheduled for Monday.



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Posted 18 September 2021 - 08:49 AM

I also noticed drilling at several locations on the site yesterday.

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Posted 18 September 2021 - 09:36 AM

NBC has an article out. There's a new view of the backside of the office building and probably the best view of the multi-family portion that I've seen yet. 
 

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Posted 18 September 2021 - 08:52 PM

NBC has an article out. There's a new view of the backside of the office building and probably the best view of the multi-family portion that I've seen yet. 
 


Ummm.

**Its time. Fort Worth is ready for a first-class hotel. I think its been needed for some time, Goff said.**

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Posted 19 September 2021 - 11:28 AM

NBC has an article out. There's a new view of the backside of the office building and probably the best view of the multi-family portion that I've seen yet. 
 

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Why is there so many people walking on the streets in the rendering.  Are they predicting the zombie apocalypse upon completion?  LOL



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Posted 20 September 2021 - 07:44 AM

 

NBC has an article out. There's a new view of the backside of the office building and probably the best view of the multi-family portion that I've seen yet. 
 


Ummm.

**Its time. Fort Worth is ready for a first-class hotel. I think its been needed for some time, Goff said.**

 

 

He should have said "5 star" instead of "first-class" but that's what he meant.  Fort Worth has a number of very nice first-class hotels.  It has no 5 star hotels and this will be the first.



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Posted 20 September 2021 - 08:46 AM

 

 

NBC has an article out. There's a new view of the backside of the office building and probably the best view of the multi-family portion that I've seen yet. 
 


Ummm.

**Its time. Fort Worth is ready for a first-class hotel. I think its been needed for some time, Goff said.**

 

 

He should have said "5 star" instead of "first-class" but that's what he meant.  Fort Worth has a number of very nice first-class hotels.  It has no 5 star hotels and this will be the first.

 

 

I got a chuckle out of that when I saw it. One could misinterpret that comment as being all other Fort Worth hotel installations are not first-class.  Maybe they aren't.  However, you're comment is likely the more accurate interpretation of that statement.  Now the pressure is on to deliver a world-class hotel to our city.  I'm excited to see what we get.

 

Question: what would be considered Fort Worth's current top-tier hotel?  



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Posted 20 September 2021 - 09:58 AM

Question: what would be considered Fort Worth's current top-tier hotel?  

 

 

I don't really think there is one. Certainly there are several nice hotels (all four star) like the Ashton, Drover, Omni, Sinclair, Kimpton, etc. But I think those are generally on the same level. 

 

To be (un)fair, I haven't really stayed at most of the Fort Worth hotels given that I live here.  But I have been fortunate enough to stay at a number of very nice hotels in major cities around the world due to business travel.  While the difference between a hotel like the Omni Fort Worth and the Ritz Carlton in Dallas can be subtle, it's there.  In a five star property the concierge can get you a reservation to any restaurant in town, the hotel restaurants are generally chef-driven and genuinely good, the gym/spa is really high quality, and the room itself has the extra bells and whistles (fully stocked marble bathrooms generally including all the toiletries, usually separate tub and shower, super nice linens and mattresses, etc.

 

I once was on a business trip and somehow forgot my toiletries bag. I called the concierge when I was out at a meeting, and when I got back to the room they already had a whole group of items laid out by the bathroom sink (brand new stuff in packages: razor, shaving cream, toothbrush/paste, etc.).  That's the service difference.



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Posted 20 September 2021 - 11:22 AM

Those are good points.  The past couple of times I have walked or driven past the Omni, there were hoards of gymnastics teams and convention type attendees spilling out of the lobby onto the sidewalk and buses idling out front.  As a convention center hotel, you sort get elbowed on your way through the crowd to get where you're going especially once that crowd has nowhere else to go but the sidewalk.

 

When I was involved with the Ritz-Carlton project several years ago, I read through their hotel design and standards guide and one section addressed their policies for Ritz-Carlton employees...what caught my attention was the hotel employees are expected to never turn their back on a guest and also know how to anticipate a guest's needs.  That's the "tripping over themselves to serve the guest" type of service one would expect at a first-class hotel as well as the finely-appointed interior finishes and rooms, top-notch dining, large lobby, gathering spaces and the concierge-level amenities you mentioned.



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Posted 20 September 2021 - 11:29 AM

The Omni in Fort Worth is a perfectly acceptable hotel with a lot of flaws - dark/outdated decor that makes the rooms feel dark and small, bathrooms typical of any hotel, public spaces that are compact and crowded constantly, and an entrance that is awful.  Your options are squeezing onto a tiny sidewalk crowded with luggage carts and people waiting on the valet or walking between cars.



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Posted 20 September 2021 - 12:36 PM

JBB, I have one comment relating to your post above.  I have not spent a night in the Omni Hotel, but I did get a chance to tour it before it opened.  My comment is this: I always thought the rooms were dark and small.  I was actually disappointed in them, coming from a from the ground up building.  You are also correct in that the bathrooms are nothing special.



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Posted 20 September 2021 - 01:51 PM

I'm hard on the Omni, but I don't know that it's any worse than the Dallas Convention Center Omni or the 2 CC hotels I've stayed in Orlando as far as decor and finish out goes.  The Dallas Omni has a leg up when it comes to public spaces, connectivity to the CC, and the entrances (they had more space to work with). Dark decor was a lot more in style when the FW Omni was built.  It's past due for a remodel.



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Posted 20 September 2021 - 03:11 PM

As it relates to the office component of this new Crescent development, it's worth noting that the price point in the space is going to be the highest in Fort Worth (I've heard ballpark mid-$40's per foot).  It's going to be interesting to see whether they pull any marquee tenants out of downtown, and just generally who ends up filling the space other than the Crescent/Goff entities.



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Posted 20 September 2021 - 09:09 PM

"The Crown Jewel of Fort Worth brings 5-star accommodation to the Cultural District"

BY HARRISON MANTAS
SEPTEMBER 20, 2021 3:46 PM

https://www.star-tel...e254385584.html



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Posted 21 September 2021 - 08:11 AM

This Museum place with the Van Zandt and the Gingerman developments. I think it will give the whole area a urban canyon feel because they are putting in higher buildings than what was before. That by the way I have no problem with if it is done right. And that is what one should expect in a urban area in a large city ? It's no Time Square by any means. But 7th street as we know it will look and feel very different in a few short years when you put all these projects together. And with the new streetscape along 7th could help ? So I'm cautiously optimistic.



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Posted 21 September 2021 - 10:20 AM

I don't know if we have discussed this new project, but at least here's an update from FWBP for those who subscribe online.

 

https://fortworthbus...-breaks-ground/



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Posted 21 September 2021 - 10:24 AM

Museum Place thread



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Posted 21 September 2021 - 11:07 AM

The topics have been merged.



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Posted 22 September 2021 - 06:46 AM

I think this Museum Place project is magnificent for the cultural district in that it further enhances a cosmopolitan look that fits well with our fabulous museums.



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Posted 23 September 2021 - 11:45 PM

So I guess Crescent is the hotel's flag.



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Posted 30 October 2021 - 04:29 PM

Top down view of the office.

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Top down view of the hotel.

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Overview of the whole site facing downtown. 

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Posted 19 November 2021 - 05:13 PM

https://www.tdlr.tex.../TABS2022005724

 

PROJECT
Project Name: Museum Place Block B - Multi-family
Project Number: TABS2022005724
Facility Name: Museum Place
Location Address: NW Corner of W 7th and Van Cliburn
Fort Worth, TX 76107
Location County: Tarrant
Start Date: 11/22/2021
Completion Date: 11/14/2023
Estimated Cost: $18,000,000
Type of Work: New Construction
Type of Funds: This project is privately funded, on private land for private use.
Scope of Work: 7 story apartment building of Type IB construction. Ground level to have mail lounge and leasing office. Garage is part of separate project and does not fall under the scope of this one. There is a basement level access into the garage.
Square Footage: 295,882 ft 2
Are the private funds provided by the tenant? No
Current Status: Project Registered
 
OWNER
Owner Name: GPUF CD Multi, LLC
Owner Address: 777 Main Street Suite 2260
Fort Worth, Texas 76102
 
TENANT
Not Assigned
 
DESIGN FIRM
Design Firm Name: GFF Architects
Design Firm Address: 2808 Fairmount Street Suite 300
Dallas, Texas 75201


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Posted 20 November 2021 - 09:20 AM

The location on this one is confusing.  NW corner of 7th and Van Cliburn doesn't really exist since that's a t-intersection, unless you consider the jog over to Arch Adams.  Even then, that's the 7-11 building that is relatively new.  Anyone have a better idea than me as to where this is?



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Posted 20 November 2021 - 09:24 AM

I'm guessing the location was entered incorrectly.  I'm not the first, or the last, who has made a mistake in filling out a form.  It will be corrected eventually, but that correction won't show up on the website.



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Posted 20 November 2021 - 09:37 AM

That makes sense.  Is this a project that was previously announced?  Could it be on the property bordered by Darcy-Boland-7th?  That's the only substantial block under the MP umbrella that's not developed or in the process of being developed.



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Posted 20 November 2021 - 11:05 AM

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I believe thats just the residential seen on the left side of this image.

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Posted 20 November 2021 - 11:31 AM

On the permit that I posted back in Sept for the 121 unit residential, they updated the street address to:

800 Van Cliburn Way
https://goo.gl/maps/g3JHHht7NLDXFooS7


https://accela.fortw...ShowInspection=

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Posted 20 November 2021 - 01:34 PM

So that block is residential and office?  I couldn't remember what was going there.



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Posted 27 November 2021 - 09:43 PM

Here's a clearer view of the residential on Block A/The hotel block.

 

 

Located just across the street from the world-renowned Kimbell Art Museum and the Modern Art Museum of Fort Worth, the mixed-use Museum Place development will make a splash as Crescent Real Estates first project in Fort Worth. Museum Place will enhance the Fort Worth’s culture district with 125 luxury residential units, a Crescent Hotel, class A office space, and a landscaped courtyard that will host outdoor dining, events, and social activities.  The development will incorporate local, commissioned artwork that will be featured throughout the amenity and public spaces.

 

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Posted 28 November 2021 - 12:56 PM

I like it.  That is a huge open space on the ground floor.  I doubt it will have retail but that's what it looks like it should have



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Posted 29 November 2021 - 01:45 PM

Looks like there will be a Tower Crane up by the end of the week on the east side of the project.

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Posted 29 November 2021 - 02:02 PM

Looks like there will be a Tower Crane up by the end of the week on the east side of the project.

 

Is that where they ended up putting it?  East side of the office site (Beck) or the east side of the hotel site (Andres)?  I was sort of thinking it would be placed centrally like on the west side of the office site, east of Van Cliburn.

 

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I imagine Van Cliburn is going to be closed except to construction traffic for quite a while.  This was Sunday afternoon.

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Posted 01 December 2021 - 10:06 PM

It is up.



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Posted 01 December 2021 - 11:23 PM

Is it in the spot I circled on your aerial or did they go with a different location?

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Posted 02 December 2021 - 02:18 PM

I find this stuff interesting....the electrical contractor's itemized list of installations on their permit for Museum Place Hotel.

https://accela.fortw...ShowInspection=

 

ELECTRICAL
Lights: 8,012
Switches: 2,858
Receptacles: 3,026
Vent Fan: 232
Disposal: 2
Dishwasher: 2
Washing Machine: 1
Dryer: 1
Water Heater: 3
Elec Heating Unit: 25
Gas Heating Unit: 3
Cooktop: 2
Oven: 5
Vent-A-Hood: 12
Compactor: 2
Air Conditioner: 3 - 5 Ton: 2
Air Conditioner: 5 - 7.5 Ton: 1
Air Conditioning: Over 7.5 Ton: 31
Motor: 1 - 3 hp: 211
Motor: 3 - 5 hp: 5
Motor: Over 7.5 hp: 16
Transformer: Over 20 KW: 15
Generator: Over 20 KW: 1
Service: Over 150 amp: 1
Temporary Pole: 1
Sign Connection: 2
Total Item(s): 14,472


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Posted 02 December 2021 - 03:02 PM

The crane looks to be in the area circled.  I drove through there last night.



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Posted 02 December 2021 - 03:17 PM

That makes the most sense as far as picking loads off trucks from Van Cliburn and swinging it over to the office and hotel sites.  With Beck and Andres having two separate jobsites, I would assume Andres will borne part of the cost for the crane & operator.  They need to be cautious with swing radius over surrounding businesses and streets which makes this location ideal.



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Posted 08 December 2021 - 11:57 AM

I just drove by the site today and several support columns are already in place for the office building.  This project seems to be moving very quickly.



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Posted 11 December 2021 - 07:02 AM

Yeah, the contrast with the slower pace down the road at the Bowie House is pretty stark. :blink:



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Posted 11 December 2021 - 08:30 AM

Just speculating, but it could be the difference between a project that's been a concept for 15 years versus one that came up in the last 2 years.



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Posted 11 December 2021 - 05:26 PM

Overhead views from today, 12/11

 

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Posted 11 December 2021 - 06:10 PM

Just speculating, but it could be the difference between a project that's been a concept for 15 years versus one that came up in the last 2 years.

And isn't there more utility issues they have to deal with on the Bowie House site?


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Posted 11 December 2021 - 07:33 PM

Beautiful photographs, Austin.



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Posted 12 January 2022 - 12:00 PM

Tower cranes and Beck is making some progress onsite:

 

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New tower crane on Andres' site:

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Posted 22 January 2022 - 04:16 PM

Overhead views 1/22/22
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Posted 23 January 2022 - 07:42 AM

Do I see a third crane going up in the lower left? That's a lotta cranes!







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