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#1 elpingüino

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Posted 15 August 2020 - 09:31 PM

The Dallas Business Journal published a really interesting interview with Monica Paul, Executive Director of the Dallas Sports Commission, which is "tasked with bringing sporting events to North Texas and competes with other large U.S. metro areas trying to do the same."

 

Lots of interesting stuff, but what really caught my attention is what she had to say about the 2026 World Cup. The Commission is aiming to land:

  • Six group-stage matches at AT&T Stadium
  • The championship match, or at least a semifinal
  • The international broadcast center, which would mean hosting 10,000+ media members in the region. The broadcast center was here for the 1994 World Cup as well.
  • Various "base camps" where a team trains for a month. They'd fly to the sites of their matches, then fly back here to keep practicing. Reminds me of the Steelers using TCU as their home base before the Super Bowl.


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Posted 16 August 2020 - 07:08 AM

Would be really good timing for North Texas.



#3 elpingüino

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Posted 06 March 2021 - 01:26 PM

North Texas takes another step toward being a host for 2026 World Cup
Final decisions are expected in December.

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Posted 09 March 2021 - 09:43 PM

I feel like this area has a great chance at hosting games and possibly the broadcast center given the history with the '94 World Cup.  I have a huge interest in attending a game.  I'll be interested to see which 6 cities get left out of the loop.  I have a feeling Dallas/Arlington getting the nod is going to leave Houston, Denver, KC, and Nashville on the outside looking in, especially if Atlanta, Orlando, and Miami are selected as well.  



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Posted 09 March 2021 - 09:59 PM

I feel like this area has a great chance at hosting games and possibly the broadcast center given the history with the '94 World Cup.  I have a huge interest in attending a game.  I'll be interested to see which 6 cities get left out of the loop.  I have a feeling Dallas/Arlington getting the nod is going to leave Houston, Denver, KC, and Nashville on the outside looking in, especially if Atlanta, Orlando, and Miami are selected as well.  


I imagine Pizza Hut Park is too small for consideration?

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Posted 10 March 2021 - 12:36 PM

 

I feel like this area has a great chance at hosting games and possibly the broadcast center given the history with the '94 World Cup.  I have a huge interest in attending a game.  I'll be interested to see which 6 cities get left out of the loop.  I have a feeling Dallas/Arlington getting the nod is going to leave Houston, Denver, KC, and Nashville on the outside looking in, especially if Atlanta, Orlando, and Miami are selected as well.  


I imagine Pizza Hut Park is too small for consideration?

 

 

I would say so...

Honestly, I couldn't imagine Houston being out of consideration. I know we have the more grand and "newer" stadium, but as a host city, Houston itself beats the entire Metroplex as a whole.


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#7 Nitixope

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Posted 10 March 2021 - 01:30 PM

Houston itself beats the entire Metroplex as a whole.

 

 

Blasphemy....



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Posted 10 March 2021 - 01:33 PM

 

 

I feel like this area has a great chance at hosting games and possibly the broadcast center given the history with the '94 World Cup.  I have a huge interest in attending a game.  I'll be interested to see which 6 cities get left out of the loop.  I have a feeling Dallas/Arlington getting the nod is going to leave Houston, Denver, KC, and Nashville on the outside looking in, especially if Atlanta, Orlando, and Miami are selected as well.  


I imagine Pizza Hut Park is too small for consideration?

 

 

I would say so...

Honestly, I couldn't imagine Houston being out of consideration. I know we have the more grand and "newer" stadium, but as a host city, Houston itself beats the entire Metroplex as a whole.

 

 

The potential host venues in Houston are all easily accessible via transit as well...



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Posted 10 March 2021 - 03:10 PM

 

Houston itself beats the entire Metroplex as a whole.

 

 

Blasphemy....

 

 

Yeah, Houston's my 2nd home, so that "Dallas vs. Houston" crap means nothing to me. 

Tell me where I'm wrong in this case? Everything in Houston is right there and properly connected to rail/bus. Arlington ruins everything by themselves by being too stubborn to even get a charter system out there.


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#10 JBB

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Posted 10 March 2021 - 03:14 PM

This area has the advantage of two potential hosting stadiums in the AT&T and the Cotton Bowl.  And strictly from a game watching perspective I would put the Cotton Bowl at an advantage.  Even with uncomfortable seating, bad amenities, and the potential for 100+ degree heat indexes even for night games, it's just built for a better experience, especially for soccer.

 

Does the Houston have a second venue like the Cotton Bowl?  BBVA has a 4th of its capacity and Rice is still considerably smaller.



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Posted 10 March 2021 - 08:50 PM


 


Houston itself beats the entire Metroplex as a whole.
 

 
Blasphemy....
 
 
Yeah, Houston's my 2nd home, so that "Dallas vs. Houston" crap means nothing to me. 

Tell me where I'm wrong in this case? Everything in Houston is right there and properly connected to rail/bus. Arlington ruins everything by themselves by being too stubborn to even get a charter system out there.

Jeriat, I was just giving you a hard time. I do not have a preference either way. I think both regions are viable options.

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Posted 12 March 2021 - 09:19 AM

This area has the advantage of two potential hosting stadiums in the AT&T and the Cotton Bowl.  And strictly from a game watching perspective I would put the Cotton Bowl at an advantage.  Even with uncomfortable seating, bad amenities, and the potential for 100+ degree heat indexes even for night games, it's just built for a better experience, especially for soccer.

 

Does the Houston have a second venue like the Cotton Bowl?  BBVA has a 4th of its capacity and Rice is still considerably smaller.

TDECU at U of H is large enough, but I don't know if the field dimensions would be acceptable by FIFA standards... but I'd think they would.

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Houston itself beats the entire Metroplex as a whole.
 

 
Blasphemy....
 
 
Yeah, Houston's my 2nd home, so that "Dallas vs. Houston" crap means nothing to me. 

Tell me where I'm wrong in this case? Everything in Houston is right there and properly connected to rail/bus. Arlington ruins everything by themselves by being too stubborn to even get a charter system out there.

Jeriat, I was just giving you a hard time. I do not have a preference either way. I think both regions are viable options.

 

 

I know. I wasn't being harsh, just honest. 


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Posted 12 March 2021 - 12:26 PM

Its only 40,000 seats, smaller than Rice Stadium.

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Posted 12 March 2021 - 09:46 PM

Its only 40,000 seats, smaller than Rice Stadium.

That's actually surprising seeing how Rice has significantly reduced capacity since the 90s. 


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Posted 12 March 2021 - 09:54 PM

Built at 70000, now at 47000.

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Posted 13 March 2021 - 01:01 PM

I didnt even know they reduced the capacity. Im from Houston but have been in Fort Worth for more than a decade now. Its hard to believe Rice Stadium hosted a Super Bowl back in the 70s. It wasnt quite as big of a production back in those days though Im sure.

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Posted 13 March 2021 - 02:24 PM

That was the only one in the first 15 not hosted in Los Angeles/Pasadena, New Orleans, or Miami.



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Posted 15 June 2021 - 07:12 PM

DFW !

 

Remember not too long ago, World Cup to come to NT/DFW and how excited the FWF was about this.  I'm not falling for the "Lets do this together" when it comes to the assets/resources needed; but lets not give nod to Arlington or Fort Worth when it comes to the brand.  DSC appropriates Arlington's AT&T Stadium and the Fort Worth's Herd without  crediting either as a Dallas-esque Thing is pretty damn brazen.  This campaign has to be branded as FW & D or include me out because I refuse to be suckered yet again into automatically falling for "The Dallas Privilege".

 

Take a look at the approach taken by competing commissions:

 

https://www.dallassp....org/index.html

 

https://www.fortwort...ortscommission/

 

 

Something else, due to the nature of NASCAR ( Camping, RV, etc) how much is the real impact of the races held at TMS to the local sales taxes because from my observation, these fans come already fully stock and my guess is that very few shop or dine in Fort Worth restaurants.



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Posted 26 October 2021 - 07:24 AM

FIFA officials visited the area over the weekend. There's little doubt that AT&T Stadium will host some games, just a matter of whether it lands the final. New details: they plan to install a natural grass field, and Sundance Square would host a fan fest, similar to what they had ahead of the Super Bowl.

https://www.wfaa.com...95-9623b85f921e

https://amp.star-tel...e255252161.html

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Posted 26 October 2021 - 08:05 AM

Does FIFA consider how to get to AT&T stadium using public transportation from either of the airports or downtown FW / downtown Dallas?



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Posted 26 October 2021 - 08:41 AM

Yes:
"FIFA requires far more from bidding cities than just an appropriate stadium, a big population and a good airport. Modern training facilities must be made available to participating national teams, as well as transportation capacity, tax abatements, security and policing resources, substantial hotel volumes, sites for Fan Fest events and more."

https://www.mlssocce...rld-cup-matches

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Posted 26 October 2021 - 03:52 PM

SoFI (LA), Allegiant (Las Vegas) and Mercedes (Atlanta) are tough competition for AT&T. 



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Posted 27 October 2021 - 11:24 AM

OMG....Whomever was in charge of creating that Fort Worth web page should be fired immediately.  That is downright embarrassing and just plain lazy.  And  we wonder why Dallas gets all the shine for everything  "DFW".  It looks like Dallas actually puts in the WORK. 



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Posted 27 October 2021 - 11:58 AM

Really I thought the Dallas one was pretty horrible. Kind of jarring. Too busy.



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Posted 27 October 2021 - 12:09 PM

Really I thought the Dallas one was pretty horrible. Kind of jarring. Too busy.

So it got your attention;  as a web page advertising your city is supposed to do?    I swear, the Fort Worth page looks exactly like the page to my niece's day care, only less exciting. 



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Posted 27 October 2021 - 03:20 PM

So it got your attention;  as a web page advertising your city is supposed to do?    I swear, the Fort Worth page looks exactly like the page to my niece's day care, only less exciting.


Well they both got my attention at some level, but simply making an impression isn't the goal; associating a positive impression with the 'product' is the goal.

I think Dallas' sports commission's home page has more going on is because they are an independent group with their own web site. Fort Worth's sports commission is just a department under Visit Fort Worth (the old Convention and Visitors Bureau) and their web presence seems to be just a handful of pages under Visit Fort Worth's site - those pages basically sticking with the design of other sub-pages on the site.

At the end of the day, I doubt that either site has a significant impact on the success of their respective organizations. An organization like FIFA isn't out browsing sports commission web sites for ideas about where to host their events, and the commissions aren't just sending out links to their sites to generate interest.

 

As for the topic at hand, I wonder if there is solid data available about the historical economic impact of having group-stage matches or semifinals or the international broadcast center. And for how much can I rent out my house?



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Posted 28 March 2022 - 09:24 PM

Fort Worth to court international soccer team in push to promote youth sports

The city is pursuing an FC Barcelona youth academy. Cary Moon says a new soccer complex could be built at Walsh Ranch, independent from the plans to build one at Basswood and 35W.

In this article, Cary Moon also promotes a new soccer complex as an opportunity for Fort Worth to host a team during the 2026 World Cup.

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Posted 15 June 2022 - 09:57 PM

Host cities announcement is tomorrow. Arlington is said to be one of two contenders to host the World Cup final, possibly having an edge over NYC because AT&T Stadium has a roof. https://sports.yahoo...-170311724.html

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Posted 16 June 2022 - 03:46 PM

Dallas has been announced as part of the Central region.  Houston as well.  Notably, Kansas City made the Central region and both Denver and the Rose Bowl were left out.



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Posted 16 June 2022 - 10:52 PM

Dallas has been announced as part of the Central region.  Houston as well.  Notably, Kansas City made the Central region and both Denver and the Rose Bowl were left out.

I'm honestly not surprised about the Rose Bowl, now that SoFi Stadium exists. 


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Posted 27 September 2022 - 03:24 PM

An ESPN reporter is saying AT&T will host the finals. 

 

https://twitter.com/...807393715855363






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