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#1 Papaw

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Posted 19 September 2009 - 09:24 PM

The Cowboys have announced that professional cameras will be prohibited in the stadium. This is a rule that is common with professional team sporting events. However, it seems it is always up to the gate screener as to what constitutes a "professional camera". I have been denied entrance to such events with a Canon Mark IIN as well as a 30D that were in a case with a few extra lenses, just to return with the same cameras with a wider lens attached and just hanging from a neck shoulder strap, no case, and allowed to enter. I am thinking that it's more about the lens than the camera. The problem is that anything less than 200mm is only going to get you some candid fan shots.
Has anyone experienced this situation?

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Posted 19 September 2009 - 10:34 PM

QUOTE (Papaw @ Sep 19 2009, 10:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The Cowboys have announced that professional cameras will be prohibited in the stadium. This is a rule that is common with professional team sporting events.


I don't go to sporting events, so this is the first I've heard of that. And it's completely moronic.

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Posted 20 September 2009 - 10:37 AM

I also do not go to sporting events. (At least professional) But their rules do seem consistent to all other laws concerning rights of photo properties etc... I don't think it is any different than claiming a Copyright on a picture really. Private property. Private business. Same at concerts usually. Purchasing a ticket confirms your understanding of those rules as it is usually stated on tickets.

And I would not look at it as though they are down on good cameras as much as they give leeway for cheapies.
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#4 Roger D Metcalf

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Posted 22 November 2009 - 09:02 PM

I was banned from bringing in my camera today at the Redskins game (Sunday, 11/22). At all previous home games in the new stadium I had carried in a Canon 30D w/ 300/2.8L--a fairly good sized lens--with no problem. But today they wouldn't let me in with my 30D and a 80-200/2.8L and they were adamant about it.

They said there is a new policy that no lenses over 3" long are allowed--and this has indeed been published on the website *now*. But this policy is NOT on the tickets, not in the fan handbook, and not in any info. they sent to season ticket holders. The event staff supervisor told me this is a "new" policy, and "maybe it's not really clear", but he wasn't about to budge. It was NOT stated on the printed posters listing all the prohibited items where folks are going through security (the website also says "No video cameras or devices capable of recording video"--but they weren't sending folks with cell phones away!)

They wouldn't let me check my camera--no facillity for that, and wouldn't give me a refund--and my parking is very far away and, yeah, yeah, poor me, I have a hip problem and I really couldn't walk all the way back to the car, stow the camera, and then walk back to the stadium. My point was not that they HAD to let me in with whatever camera I wanted--hey it's their place and they can make whatever policy they want--but the policy was brand new and it wasn't published anywhere and not stated on their posters, and again, it was NOT e-mailed out to season ticket holders, I just wanted to work out something reasonable so that I didn't have to miss the game where my wife and friends had all already gone in--and, oh, by the way, if they left the stadium, they wouldn't be allowed to re-enter.

Anyway, I sat outside on the curb, and my wife decided to leave at halftime. As we were walking past one of the ticket offices, I decided to ask one more time for a refund. Several agents listened to my story, and all agreed there was absolutely nothing that could be done--certainly no refund, and even if I did store the camera someplace, my wife couldn't go back in anyway. So as we were walking away, one very kind lady agent stopped us and said "This is stupid, let me see if I can do something"--she talked to Guest Services and a gentlemen from there escorted us in to the Guest Services area where they CHECK ITEMS for people!! They had been telling me they don't and wouldn't do this! So, they checked my camera, and I made it to my seat halfway through the 3rd quarter--luckily, not much had happened up til then anyway. And, yeah, they did let my wife back in, too.

But, you know, the stupid thing was, I could have sat down for a few minutes, then gone back to Guest Services and lied and told them I was leaving and picked up my camera--and then headed right back to my seat.

And, looking around from our seats, there were plenty of folks there using cameras with lenses over 3" long.



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Posted 22 November 2009 - 10:09 PM

They probably didn't call attention to the cameras on the way in.

Here is a post on a blog at the Louisville Law School about the NFL's rights to images. I thought it was interesting.
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#6 Roger D Metcalf

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Posted 23 November 2009 - 02:24 PM

A policy is a policy is a policy and should be applied evenly to all.

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Posted 23 November 2009 - 09:20 PM

So who do all the guys with their cameras on the field work for?

I'm guessing they all don't work for the NFL, so if they're freelance or work for SI or the local paper, who pays who and exactly what I wonder?


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Posted 24 November 2009 - 10:42 AM

QUOTE (Roger D Metcalf @ Nov 23 2009, 02:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A policy is a policy is a policy and should be applied evenly to all.


I don't know, maybe Arlington residents should be allowed to take photos since they helped pay for the stadium rolleyes.gif




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