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[RD Milhollin]

City Council approved zoning that could allow grocer HEB to develop  it's first store in Fort Worth. The property is 3 acres located at Rosedale and Miller. It would be great for Walmart at Renaissance to have some reasonably local competition, the sites are about 2 miles apart following major roads.

 

http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/02/06/4605254/fort-worth-council-clears-path.html 

[cjyoung]

I love HEB. Should be a good fit all over the city.

[Jeriat]

City Council approved zoning that could allow grocer HEB to develop  it's first store in Fort Worth. The property is 3 acres located at Rosedale and Miller. It would be great for Walmart at Renaissance to have some reasonably local competition, the sites are about 2 miles apart following major roads.

 

http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/02/06/4605254/fort-worth-council-clears-path.html 

First?

We have the HEB Marketplace on Hulen....

[John T Roberts]

I heard this evening that H-E-B stores have decided to pass on this property.  This store will not be built.  Jeriat, the correct name for the store at Hulen and I-30 is Central Market, and H-E-B considers that an entirely different concept.

[Jeriat]

I heard this evening that H-E-B stores have decided to pass on this property.  This store will not be built.  Jeriat, the correct name for the store at Hulen and I-30 is Central Market, and H-E-B considers that an entirely different concept.

Huh... that's different. 

Then again, I guess it's the same with Wal-mart and Walmart Supercenters? 

[John T Roberts]

I have been in some of the older stores around San Antonio, Fredericksburg, Kerrville, and in Cleburne.  Those look like standard grocery stores.  Central Markets to me seem to be more upscale, considerably larger, and more about the preparation of food than their regular stores.  I will admit that I have also been in their newer area stores in both Burleson and Granbury and they are almost Central Markets.

[McHand]

It is an entirely different concept.  HEB is a SUPERmarket, and they take all forms of currency, including all government food programs.  Central Market is a boutique food store with boutique non-food items, which accepts SNAP (food stamps) but not other forms of government food assistance (WIC, etc.)

 

Edit: I am a former HEB employee.   

[texastrill]

The Eastside gets the shaft again!.....boooooooo

[McHand]

What do you mean, texastrill? Just because it's not a Central Market does not mean it will be a Sack N Save.

[McHand]

I have been in some of the older stores around San Antonio, Fredericksburg, Kerrville, and in Cleburne.  Those look like standard grocery stores.  Central Markets to me seem to be more upscale, considerably larger, and more about the preparation of food than their regular stores.  I will admit that I have also been in their newer area stores in both Burleson and Granbury and they are almost Central Markets.

 

I think what John is saying is that in HEB's newer stores, they have an upscale feel of CM while maintaining low prices and the full spectrum of grocery store goods. If that is what he's saying, I agree with that.  Their flagship store on Lake Air Drive in Waco has been that way for almost 20 years.  It is not a new concept but it is somewhat new to FW.

[John T Roberts]

Avvy, that's exactly what I was trying to say.

[Doohickie]

I haven't been to the HEB in Burleson... that's pretty recent.  Does it have that upscale thing going on?

[Doohickie]

Posting a picture from Bud Kennedy's Eats Beat on Facebook:  "We are now up to 5 locations apparently set aside for H-E-B stores in Tarrant County."  I count only 4 distinct locations in Tarrant though.

 

 

Locations include:

6301 W Bailey Boswell Rd, Ft Worth

8500 Quail Valley Drive/5841 North Tarrant Pkwy, Ft Worth, Ft Worth (Keller?)

6599 McCart Avenue, Fort Worth

5325 Lake Ridge Pkwy, Grand Prairie (barely in Tarrant Co.)

 

I'm particularly interested in the McCart location.  That's an old Sack n Save at McCart and Altamesa, diagonally across from a Kroger.  It would be great to redevelop that old store to something that's clearly an upgrade, and that area sure can use the redevelopment.  I wonder which store, if any, it would drive out though?  In addition to the Kroger there are also Aldi, Wal-Mart and Albertson's a mile south at McCart and Sycamore School Road, and the Winco at Crowley & Sycamore School Roads.  Alternately, maybe there's enough new housing in the area to support all these grocery stores. 

 

Although I think the redevelopment it will bring to that area is good, I'm worried it will drive out Albertson's which I selfishly hope doesn't happen because ( a ) it's where I currently shop, and ( b ) it's closest to my house, and a big empty supermarket there won't help my property values.

[Jeriat]

Posting a picture from Bud Kennedy's Eats Beat on Facebook:  "We are now up to 5 locations apparently set aside for H-E-B stores in Tarrant County."  I count only 4 distinct locations in Tarrant though.

 

 

Locations include:

6301 W Bailey Boswell Rd, Ft Worth

8500 Quail Valley Drive/5841 North Tarrant Pkwy, Ft Worth, Ft Worth (Keller?)

6599 McCart Avenue, Fort Worth

5325 Lake Ridge Pkwy, Grand Prairie (barely in Tarrant Co.)

 

I'm particularly interested in the McCart location.  That's an old Sack n Save at McCart and Altamesa, diagonally across from a Kroger.  It would be great to redevelop that old store to something that's clearly an upgrade, and that area sure can use the redevelopment.  I wonder which store, if any, it would drive out though?  In addition to the Kroger there are also Aldi, Wal-Mart and Albertson's a mile south at McCart and Sycamore School Road, and the Winco at Crowley & Sycamore School Roads.  Alternately, maybe there's enough new housing in the area to support all these grocery stores. 

 

Although I think the redevelopment it will bring to that area is good, I'm worried it will drive out Albertson's which I selfishly hope doesn't happen because ( a ) it's where I currently shop, and ( b ) it's closest to my house, and a big empty supermarket there won't help my property values.

 

That Sack n Save has been sitting there forever with NO ideas outside of this one. I just don't know about converting this into an HEB. 

Now, if it was further east on Sycamore School Road in "no-man's land" (the long strip of undeveloped land between Crowley and Hemphill) then I could see it happening. 

[Mr_Brightside526]

I'm going to continue to pull for HEB to go in the W 7th development and give Target a run for their money.

 

But I also used to live down off Sycamore School and an HEB in the old sack 'n' save is exactly what that area needs to breathe a little renewed life in the tired old strip center.

[Jimmy]

I totally understand why grocery chains aren't lining up to go into the vacant store at the corner of Camp Bowie and Clayton. But, man, I wish someone would do SOMETHING with that lot!

[Jeriat]

I'm going to continue to pull for HEB to go in the W 7th development and give Target a run for their money.

 

But I also used to live down off Sycamore School and an HEB in the old sack 'n' save is exactly what that area needs to breathe a little renewed life in the tired old strip center.

 

I'd rather rework it into something else... something out of the box. 

Because Walmart already dominates most of this neighborhood. Throw in several other grocery stores in the 1.5 mile radius of it and it's pretty stacked. 

[JBB]

HEB is going to do well on McCart or anywhere else they decide to land in this area. If any other chain should be worried, it's Wal Mart. Add to that the number of people who are currently shopping at higher cost alternatives out of a lack of desire to do business with Wal Mart that might migrate over to HEB and it's hard to see them not working out.

The Morning News is reporting that they've also purchased properties in Dallas, Denton, and Collin counties.

[JBB]

Not going to link to the article since there's not a lot of new news, but the S-T is reporting today that HEB has purchased space in the Glade Park development in Euless at 121 and Cheek Sparger. It's technically in Euless, but it's a stone's throw away from Colleyville and Bedford. The development has blown up in the last year after the land was cleared several years earlier - Dave and Buster's, Dick's Sporting Goods, additional northeast Tarrant locations for a variety of retailers and fast food like Pie Five and Panera, Belk opens in the spring, and a movie theater is coming soon.

[Doohickie]

I'd rather rework it into something else... something out of the box. 

Because Walmart already dominates most of this neighborhood. Throw in several other grocery stores in the 1.5 mile radius of it and it's pretty stacked.

On the other hand, there is more and more housing down McCart Ave. and Crowley Rd. to replace customers the established stores might lose to HEB.

[elpingüino]

H-E-B to open in Mansfield: http://www.star-tele...le86424022.html

[John T Roberts]

The Fort Worth Star-Telegram has an article about H-E-B taking so long to come to the area.

 

https://www.star-tel...e226293945.html

[elpingüino]

The H-E-B in Hudson Oaks just east of Weatherford will open May 10.
https://www.star-tel...e229718449.html

[arch-image]

I'll tell you what I Was told years ago by their development team. The typical MO when coming in to a new "region" like DFW is to over a good period of time very carefully encircle the city's suburbs and surrounding cities and then once established begin working on closing in to the major city. All of it is done over a long time, HEB is slow, methodical and successful. With stores now in Burleson, Grandbury and cleburne and Hudson Oaks and Mansfield coming and possibly the Euless store as well I have heard of possibly one going in towards Denton It seems to be getting to that point of getting closer on that "closing in aspect" 

[panthercity]

I'll tell you what I Was told years ago by their development team. The typical MO when coming in to a new "region" like DFW is to over a good period of time very carefully encircle the city's suburbs and surrounding cities and then once established begin working on closing in to the major city. All of it is done over a long time, HEB is slow, methodical and successful. With stores now in Burleson, Grandbury and cleburne and Hudson Oaks and Mansfield coming and possibly the Euless store as well I have heard of possibly one going in towards Denton It seems to be getting to that point of getting closer on that "closing in aspect" 

Theres possibility of a Euless store coming? That would be perfect! We always shop when we visit Austin.

[JBB]

It's in far north Euless, on Cheek Sparger just west of 121 (across the street from Bedford's Wal Mart).  They've been sitting on the land for 3 and a half years.

[panthercity]

That would be amazing, hope they make announcement in the near future.

[elpingüino]

H-E-B president: Dallas-Fort Worth expansion not a question of if, but when

"We do have sites in the Dallas-Fort Worth area that are identified, and at some point in time, provided H-E-B continues to have good success, I think you would see an H-E-B move to Dallas-Fort Worth."

[Doohickie]

*sigh*

 

That's like an announcement about the Bomber Spur... sure, it'll happen.  Someday.  Maybe.

[Jeriat]

*sigh*

 

That's like an announcement about the Bomber Spur... sure, it'll happen.  Someday.  Maybe.

 

This is actually one of the few things I'm confident will happen more sooner than later. 

Can't keep H-E-B out forever...

[Stadtplan]

H-E-B to open in Mansfield: http://www.star-tele...le86424022.html

 

https://www.lpcretai...yer-05.2019.pdf

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I Thought this was an interesting comment from the City of Mansfield:

 

the agreement the City has with H-E-B gives them until 2021 to start the project. They own the property. The company does not publicly talk about its expansion plans. They just build their stores when they're ready to build.

 

 

Also HEB Denton Bonnie Brae

https://dentonrc.com...re on the land.

 

 

“We still have no immediate plans to build up there right now,” said Mabrie Jackson, a spokesperson for H-E-B and Central Market.

 

https://www.lpcretai...yer-01.2020.pdf

 

 

 

 

 

 

Updated Tarrant County List of HEB Properties:

287 & Broad St.

6325 W BAILEY BOSWELL RD / 200 E BONDS RANCH RD

6599 MC CART AVE

5841 NORTH TARRANT PKWY / 8500 QUAIL VALLEY DR

Cheek Sparger

[elpingüino]

Not much has changed in five years:

Posting a picture from Bud Kennedy's Eats Beat on Facebook:  "We are now up to 5 locations apparently set aside for H-E-B stores in Tarrant County."  I count only 4 distinct locations in Tarrant though.
 
Locations include:
6301 W Bailey Boswell Rd, Ft Worth
8500 Quail Valley Drive/5841 North Tarrant Pkwy, Ft Worth, Ft Worth (Keller?)
6599 McCart Avenue, Fort Worth
5325 Lake Ridge Pkwy, Grand Prairie (barely in Tarrant Co.)
 

Updated Tarrant County List of HEB Properties:
287 & Broad St.
6325 W BAILEY BOSWELL RD
200 E BONDS RANCH RD
6599 MC CART AVE
5841 NORTH TARRANT PKWY / 8500 QUAIL VALLEY DR
Cheek Sparger

[tamtagon]

HEB will probably start on a couple+ distribution centers just before the stores are announced and constructed. I think that's how they did it in Houston.... 

[JBB]

The Bailey Boswell and Bonds Ranch properties are for one location.

[Stadtplan]

The Mansfield location seems like a no-brainer to me.  I drove by there the other day and don't recall any activity but I wasn't really looking either I sort of tuned out some of that retail development out along 287.

[John T Roberts]

I haven't been out there because I'm staying home as much as possible, but I tend to tune out all types of suburban retail development.  For the record, my firm has done some of those buildings in Mansfield.

[Austin55]

I was actually at the Shops at Broad yesterday. It was surprisingly empty given the approaching holiday.

[JBB]

HEB announced new stores in Plano and Frisco for 2022. I would say it is safe to assume that stores in Tarrant County will not be far behind.

[elpingüino]

H-E-B has bought property at Riverside and Heritage Trace in far north Fort Worth. https://www.star-tel...=mainstage_lead

[Stadtplan]

I'm starting to lose interest in HEB if they keep teasing us with new stores and not breaking ground.  I'd just assume shop somewhere close to home.  I like the fact that their store in Burleson has 6 types of everything you can think of but it's just too big and too far to go for anything other than specialty items I can't find at other stores. 

 

I tried shopping at Winco a couple times and by the time you make it through that giant warehouse of a store, pack up and drive home everything is pretty much melted or on its way and I feel the same way about HEB.  

[Dylan]

H-E-B has bought property at Riverside and Heritage Trace in far north Fort Worth. https://www.star-tel...=mainstage_lead

Interesting that HEB would be setting up shop immediately across from a giant Kroger that feels twice the size of a normal Kroger.

[Volare]

 

H-E-B has bought property at Riverside and Heritage Trace in far north Fort Worth. https://www.star-tel...=mainstage_lead

Interesting that HEB would be setting up shop immediately across from a giant Kroger that feels twice the size of a normal Kroger.

 

 

Yes, lets go to an area of the city that already has Costco, Winco, Target, Kroger, etc all within a mile...

[elpingüino]

H-E-B has bought property at Riverside and Heritage Trace in far north Fort Worth. https://www.star-tel...=mainstage_lead

Interesting that HEB would be setting up shop immediately across from a giant Kroger that feels twice the size of a normal Kroger.

The H-E-B stores in Burleson and Granbury are also across the street from Kroger Marketplaces.

[rriojas71]

 

 

H-E-B has bought property at Riverside and Heritage Trace in far north Fort Worth. https://www.star-tel...=mainstage_lead

Interesting that HEB would be setting up shop immediately across from a giant Kroger that feels twice the size of a normal Kroger.

 

 

Yes, lets go to an area of the city that already has Costco, Winco, Target, Kroger, etc all within a mile...

 

Yeah...  especially when I can't get 1 grocery store anywhere near where I live.

[JBB]

Where are these parts of town where grocery stores are not within close proximity to others?

[rriojas71]

Here on the Northside.  I mean, I do hav

 

Where are these parts of town where grocery stores are not within close proximity to others?

Here on the Northside and also on the Eastside.  Near Southside is lacking as well.

[Austin55]

Relevant

 

Fort Worth Report: More options exist for healthy groceries in East, Southeast Fort Worth than you might think, survey says 

[rriojas71]

 

Relevant

 

Fort Worth Report: More options exist for healthy groceries in East, Southeast Fort Worth than you might think, survey says 

 

Relevant in what way?  That there are options or that the options are sparse?  From what I see on the map most of the places they show (especially on the eastside) is that all the options are convenience stores.

[Stadtplan]

I'm starting to lose interest in HEB if they keep teasing us with new stores and not breaking ground.  I'd just assume shop somewhere close to home.  I like the fact that their store in Burleson has 6 types of everything you can think of but it's just too big and too far to go for anything other than specialty items I can't find at other stores. 

 

I tried shopping at Winco a couple times and by the time you make it through that giant warehouse of a store, pack up and drive home everything is pretty much melted or on its way and I feel the same way about HEB.  

 

I knew they were teasing us....

 

https://www.star-tel...IObpYpst5xQMDsR

[Jeriat]

 

I'm starting to lose interest in HEB if they keep teasing us with new stores and not breaking ground.  I'd just assume shop somewhere close to home.  I like the fact that their store in Burleson has 6 types of everything you can think of but it's just too big and too far to go for anything other than specialty items I can't find at other stores. 

 

I tried shopping at Winco a couple times and by the time you make it through that giant warehouse of a store, pack up and drive home everything is pretty much melted or on its way and I feel the same way about HEB.  

 

I knew they were teasing us....

 

https://www.star-tel...IObpYpst5xQMDsR

 

The two stores in Frisco?

I thought this was already known?