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#1 Austin55

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Posted 03 August 2017 - 12:25 PM

850 foot mixed use tower. 

 

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Posted 03 August 2017 - 05:42 PM

If anyone remembers the Block TU proposal, this is what I wanted it to look like....


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Posted 03 August 2017 - 06:30 PM

I totally see the TU resemblance.

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Posted 03 August 2017 - 09:26 PM

Only, more glass. 


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Posted 08 August 2017 - 02:49 AM

Looks great. I wonder are there are any height limit restrictions in Austin?

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Posted 08 August 2017 - 07:06 AM

Looks great. I wonder are there are any height limit restrictions in Austin?

 

Around the Capitol there is... as far as I know. But that's it.


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Posted 08 August 2017 - 01:14 PM

Looks great. I wonder are there are any height limit restrictions in Austin?

 

I wonder what is going on in Austin.  There is nothings so special about Austin to really justify this condo boom except for babelism.

 

Sooner or later, there is going to be a bigly burst.



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Posted 10 August 2017 - 11:19 AM

What is going on in Austin is what we don't have around here, developers that are not afraid to take a chance.  Austin doesn't envision itself as a small town or has a city council putting development height restrictions for the whole city to protect one questionable view corridor.    Austin is growing like gangbusters and has more going on than Fort Worth will ever hope to be. 



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Posted 10 August 2017 - 02:35 PM

What is going on in Austin is what we don't have around here, developers that are not afraid to take a chance.  Austin doesn't envision itself as a small town or has a city council putting development height restrictions for the whole city to protect one questionable view corridor.    Austin is growing like gangbusters and has more going on than Fort Worth will ever hope to be. 

 

Your answer is incomplete and misguided.

 

First, many economist think that Austin is ripe housing bubble waiting to burst.  Yes, Austin does not envision itself as a small town because it isn't anymore.  It does like to think of itself as a Texas country-esq place more than an international jet setting place.  Speculators always over do things and pay the price when the bottom collapses. Is there actually a greater demand for high rise living in Austin than for the traditional home; is there a shortage of land to justify this particular housing sector or is it just an "art project?"

 

ya, you may be too ready to dish Fort Worth when everything about Fort Worth is routinely lumped into Dallas stats; and you will admit that Dallas is doing just fine. I concede that Dallas is the greater center of economic growth in the area and garners more projects. I also think that both Houston or DFW have larger economic markets than does has Austin.  So, give Austin its credit, as stupefying as it is; but relegating Fort Worth in its unique situation to a hopeless future is wrong.



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Posted 10 August 2017 - 02:49 PM

I made mention of this recently

Excluding retirement homes, only 5 residential buildings over 6 floors have ever been built in Fort Worth, and only 1 over 12 floors.

Forest Park Tower - 12 fl - 1925
Weschester - 12 fl - 1951
Hunter Plaza - 11 fl - 1952
Sundace West - 12 fl - 1991
Omni - 33 fl - 2009

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Posted 10 August 2017 - 05:16 PM

I wonder what is going on in Austin.  There is nothings so special about Austin to really justify this condo boom except for babelism.

 

Sooner or later, there is going to be a bigly burst.

 

 

 This article sums it up about Austin.  The high rise boom in Austin is real estate's version of a hyper-flipping binge.  The main players seem to be out of town investors seeking to capitalize on Texas's favorable real estate tax code and low taxes.  The market in Austin is rapidly becoming out of the reach of many residents there.

 

Austin has always been a cool place for its laid back lifestyle but now it is the casino for high dollar rollers.  To be frank, my wondering about what is going on in Austin need not be wondering for me any more.

 

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 02:36 PM

I, too, am puzzled as to why Austin warrants an 800-foot tower downtown, which far surpasses anything we've got.  Austin has a 2016 estimated population that is 94,000 more than Fort Worth's 2016 estimate (Census Bureau).  The two cities are roughly equivalent in population.  But, of course, Austin is the state capital and the home of the state's largest university and is noted for its performing arts.  We have TCU, museums, and the Stockyards.  Putting aside the height restrictions that may or may not be imposed outside our downtown, Fort Worth's downtown should have had at least one 800-foot tower by now.

 

But real estate deals in unlikely places can go sour.  Consider, if you recall, the  cancelled 58-story 800-foot Energy Tower planned for Midland--which has an estimated 2015 population of about 315,000 (Census Bureau) roughly the size of Arlington.



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Posted 14 August 2017 - 03:23 PM

Fort Worth is 200,000 in population over Oklahoma City. Yet they built a 844ft tower not long ago. Some have said that Fort Worth will add more towers as space is used up ? But Austin is similar to Fort Worth in population. As like Fort Worth, Austin is growing fast. Still yet again Austin and Fort Worth can grow its city Limits ETJ. Unlike Dallas that don't have that much room to grow its city limits. Yet Fort Worth has lagged behind both Austin and Dallas in skyscraper growth. I am so tired of downtown space used for short buildings. 



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Posted 15 August 2017 - 07:14 AM

Once again, we find ourselves comparing populations of "cities" without comparing how much land those cities comprise. Austin is 947k in 271 sq miles, Fort Worth is 865k in 350 sq/mi. (My favorite example remains Minneapolis with 382k in 56 sq/mi.) If you believe Fort Worth is in any way a peer to either of those cities, please let me sell you a bridge over dry land. There is a good reason people say Fort Worth has a small town feel...



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Posted 16 August 2017 - 03:09 PM

I was using comparative population figures quite loosely in making a case for the erection of a very tall tower in one city's downtown  as opposed to another's.  I'm not sure there's an applicable proxy in this equation.   Somebody mentioned "babelism," which is probably just as good an explanation as any other.

 

Every city has idiosyncratic characteristics, so that it would be difficult to say whether this city and not some other should have an 800-foot building.  Of course the facts speak for themselves--Austin has an 800-foot tower in the pipeline and Fort Worth does not.



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Posted 16 August 2017 - 06:12 PM

I see nothing wrong in comparing how other cities grow, build out, and even how they decline in population. And in relation to city limit size. Especially cities in Texas, Oklahoma. Every city has a unique history. But have more in common. Mayors and city governments do a lot of comparing notes on how other cities do things. 



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Posted 16 August 2017 - 10:03 PM

Once again, we find ourselves comparing populations of "cities" without comparing how much land those cities comprise. Austin is 947k in 271 sq miles, Fort Worth is 865k in 350 sq/mi. (My favorite example remains Minneapolis with 382k in 56 sq/mi.) If you believe Fort Worth is in any way a peer to either of those cities, please let me sell you a bridge over dry land. There is a good reason people say Fort Worth has a small town feel...

 

Population density is not the only way (or even the best way) to compare cities, and doesn't tell the whole story.

 

Yes, I do consider Fort Worth and Austin to be peer cities.

 

Based on Google Maps, Minneapolis might be a stretch with its larger downtown. That said, its proximity to St. Paul may help it feel bigger. I'd say Minneapolis is somewhere between Fort Worth and Dallas in importance.

 

As for the TRV bridges being built over dry land... I'll pass. I'm concerned about their structural integrity!

 

(Before anyone says anything... yes, I know Volare is not serious about the bridge.)


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Posted 17 August 2017 - 01:14 PM

The major difference between the cities you all are trying to compare Fort Worth to have one distinct advantage over FW and why they can build taller towers. Austin and OK City are the biggest and most important city in their Metro Area. FW is the 2nd largest city in our area so that plays a part on why our skyline is smaller.

Also, population numbers have nothing to do with why a city should have skyscrapers. The main factor is population density. I look at FW (my hometown) and SF (where I lived for 17 years). Their population is almost the same yet SF seems 10 times bigger and is much more dynamic. It is because SF is squeezing 850k people into 47 sq miles. If SF was 350 sq miles it would have a population of nearly 6 million.

The other side of the spectrum is looking at cities larger than FW, like Phoenix, San Diego and San Jose and none of these cities have a building taller than Burnett Plaza.




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