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#1 Austin55

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Posted 03 December 2016 - 04:14 PM

I don't have any solid information on this, just a rumor. The land is across Main from the new UTSW center and diagonally across from the Highpoint apartments. 



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Posted 04 December 2016 - 11:59 AM

If this rumor turns out to be true, it is both surprising and is more positive news for this stretch of South Main Street.



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Posted 25 March 2017 - 04:23 PM

Not sure if this is going to be a hotel now. But I did find that whatever is planned here now will be 22k sqft, ground level retail and offices on 2nd floor. BBP is architect, Greenstar is developer.

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Posted 22 June 2017 - 02:49 PM

Info from Fort Construction. I've updated thread title to reflect changes.

 

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We are partnering with Greenstar Development out of Austin, Texas, to build a two-story mixed-use project in Near Southside.

 
The 25,225 SF building will be located at 601 S. Main Street. A retail space will be on the ground floor with an office on the second floor.
 
We are currently in the pre-construction phase with the owner and architect, so there may be a couple of changes to the design. Bennett Benner Partners designed this beautiful building – and we thank them for sharing their rendering.
 
We are hoping to start moving dirt by early July.


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Posted 22 June 2017 - 04:10 PM

not thrilled about the design, but I guess it's saving grace is that it is taking the place of an empty lot. Let hope this is an early rendering and the final design is a bit more interesting that this.

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Posted 23 June 2017 - 10:15 AM

I agree the artist's drawing is not awe-inspiring.  But what can you do architecturally to draw attention to a 2-story commercial building if it's going to be one of many such along South Main?



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Posted 23 June 2017 - 12:08 PM

I agree the artist's drawing is not awe-inspiring.  But what can you do architecturally to draw attention to a 2-story commercial building if it's going to be one of many such along South Main?

I'm not saying it's hideous, however a design in this part of town that doesn't look like all the other buildings that have recently been built or currently being built and/or proposed wouldn't be too much to ask. It looks just like a wooden box with some lame window overhangs that's trying to disguise itself as cutting edge.

I think we've set the bar pretty low if we are trying to give the architect an out by hinting that a 2-story building doesn't merit any uniqueness or creative thought to the final product.

Just my opinion.

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Posted 23 June 2017 - 12:43 PM

Taco Taco! I see that the graphic artist shares my hopes that my favorite restaurant in San Antonio will open an outpost in FW.

 

(Yes, I realize it's placeholder text)

 

 

 

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Posted 23 June 2017 - 12:45 PM

That would be awesome. I love that place.

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Posted 23 June 2017 - 01:37 PM

That would be awesome. I love that place.

So, will it matter what the building looks like if "Taco Taco", which has a great reputation, is the anchor establishment?



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Posted 24 June 2017 - 09:49 AM

That would be awesome. I love that place.

So, will it matter what the building looks like if "Taco Taco", which has a great reputation, is the anchor establishment?

Taco Taco could be located in a cardboard box and I would still go. It being the anchor tenant would have nothing to do with my opinion on the proposed design or lack thereof on this project. Again, it will probably get built and if it has a successful anchor tenant I will be overjoyed, but ultimately I was just hoping for a bit more variety and diversity in the designs being proposed. In the end my opinion really has no bearing on what will be built.

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Posted 24 June 2017 - 11:57 AM

You never know who reads this forum.  Your opinion could influence a design.



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Posted 24 June 2017 - 12:13 PM

I agree the artist's drawing is not awe-inspiring.  But what can you do architecturally to draw attention to a 2-story commercial building if it's going to be one of many such along South Main?

 

 Will someone explain to me why the lack of love for the way that this project is designed?



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Posted 24 June 2017 - 06:10 PM

I agree the artist's drawing is not awe-inspiring.  But what can you do architecturally to draw attention to a 2-story commercial building if it's going to be one of many such along South Main?

 
 Will someone explain to me why the lack of love for the way that this project is designed?
"Lack of" like you stated is what my issue is. No I don't love it (because there's not much there to love), but in the end it will serve it's purpose Which is to cover up a vacant lot on S. Main. I just think it's completely boring and unimaginative and it's using extremely juvenile tricks to make itself seem aesthetically interesting.

In the end it boils down to personal preference.

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Posted 26 June 2017 - 07:05 AM

I noticed construction fencing is up around that lot.


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Posted 24 August 2017 - 03:52 PM

Rendering via FWBP. Should start Sept/Oct and be done by 2019.

 

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The cantilevered glass area reminds me of Sears Tower's Skydeck, just minus 102 floors.



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Posted 24 August 2017 - 04:46 PM

From this perspective I like the design a bit more now. Seeing the trees and also the cantilevered section makes it more interesting than what I imagined from the rendering that was first released.

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Posted 24 August 2017 - 08:15 PM

We came in second on this one. One of the few times Fort has beat us out. Really wanted that project.

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Posted 25 August 2017 - 09:58 AM

We came in second on this one. One of the few times Fort has beat us out. Really wanted that project.


Yeah that's too bad Crimson. I know you guys would have done great work.

Are there any other projects on S. Main that you guys are bidding for?

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Posted 26 August 2017 - 11:59 AM

Better renderings

 

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Posted 27 August 2017 - 04:00 PM

We came in second on this one. One of the few times Fort has beat us out. Really wanted that project.


Yeah that's too bad Crimson. I know you guys would have done great work.
Are there any other projects on S. Main that you guys are bidding for?

Yeah, we're doing WA Powers renovation and Park and we are bidding on one other near it.

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Posted 28 August 2017 - 09:41 AM

I like the design overall. The brick on the upper part of the cantilevered 2nd floor porch roof is strange. There are things you can do with masonry and steel lintels, doesn't mean one should though. 


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Posted 28 August 2017 - 11:22 AM

I like the design overall. The brick on the upper part of the cantilevered 2nd floor porch roof is strange. There are things you can do with masonry and steel lintels, doesn't mean one should though.


I agree.

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Posted 30 August 2017 - 11:27 AM

A construction fence is up. Silt fences are in place and earth moving equipment was on the site when I drove by this morning.


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Posted 14 September 2017 - 10:18 AM

Dirt is definitely moving, or it's the biggest fire ant colony of all time.

 

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Posted 19 September 2017 - 10:50 PM

It's going down in a hurry.  Deep trenches all around.


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Posted 20 September 2017 - 01:52 AM

Rendering via FWBP. Should start Sept/Oct and be done by 2019.

 

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The cantilevered glass area reminds me of Sears Tower's Skydeck, just minus 102 floors.

 

I just hope someone gives the poor woman on the left some Tylenol.  It looks like she has a migraine.



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Posted 20 September 2017 - 10:19 AM

It's going down in a hurry.  Deep trenches all around.

That mound was twice as high this morning. They were also putting some water into it too. I guess site treating the soil was cheaper than hauling it off and bringing in select fill.


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Posted 30 September 2017 - 03:00 PM

I've also noticed that the developer has bought land on the block to the east. Not sure if they plan to build there or use it as parking or something.







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