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A redone Henderson, Lancaster and I30 interchange.


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#1 Austin55

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Posted 07 June 2016 - 05:27 PM

This area is a bit of a mess at the moment. Random highway flyovers, cut off buildings, and wasted land opportunity. The exchange takes up over 20 acres of land.

 

This first image is ramps, roads and flyovers which I'd propose getting rid off. Nearly all of them. 

 

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However, they'd need to be replaced. So what I've thought about is essentially returning as much of the grid as possible, replacing flyover with surface streets and at grade intersections. This image below is probably a bit hard to understand, so I'll try my best to explain. 

 

-Macon Street currently turns into an onramp north of Lancaster, where it flys over Lancaster Henderson and then under Rio Grande before turning into I-30. A portion of Lancaster also currently merges onto this ramp. Instead, this ramp would be demolished and Macon would be made an at grade street continuing due south following the grid, intersecting Lancaster and eventually dead ending. Instead of using Macon as an onramp, an intersection would be created at at Lake and Rio Grande/El paso streets. Drivers leaving downtown would then use the existing ramp to the south to enter I-30 Westbound. This would free up a large amount of land for potential development and would drivers on Henderson easier access to WB30. 

 

-The U-turn lane from exiting WB30 drivers onto Lancaster would be elimated and the land used for developable space. NB Henderson has an existing 3rd lane and yeild lanes which makes such U turns easy and simple to do anyway. 

 

-There is an existing ramp for exiting EB30 drivers which flys over the existing RIo Grande exit tunnel, and then splits, offering drivers an option to exit onto EB lancaster or continue north into downtown where the road turns into Cherry street. This ramp would be altered so instead of flying over Lancaster it would intersect with it at grade, allowing drivers to go east or west, and eliminating the need for the Lancaster branch. This opens up additional land north and south of the Lancaster. 

 

-This plans main goal is to open more room for development while hindering drivers as little as possible. North to South roads Florence, Macon, Cherry, and Burnett streets could all be extended 2 blocks south while East to West streets Presidio and El Paso could be extended several blocks west, which would expand much of the grid. In total, this would create 11 new full size blocks and 2 partial blocks. Some of the blocks come close to the drilling pad however, which could be limiting. Another benefit is the Public Market would no longer be so ostracized, and development could fill in the area to the north and create a much more coherent neighborhood with a driect connection to downtown, the upper west side, and less separation between downtown and southside. 

 

-This could be done in phases as demand is needed. Doing it all at once would create a traffic nightmare. For now, there is still plenty of land available, but as land downtown and along the Lancaster masterplan area is developed, more would be needed. 

 

The final plan, blue being new roads and yellow being new develop able land.

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#2 Big Frog II

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Posted 08 June 2016 - 10:20 AM

You are right.  It is an incredibly poor use of valuable space as currently configured.



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Posted 08 June 2016 - 10:21 AM

I hope this was originally considered in the plans. Adding more to downtown is always a plus. 


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Posted 08 June 2016 - 11:00 AM

Not all of the 20 acres of land are taken up, Austin.  Someone had the foresight and brilliance to erect a monument/marker out there in the weeds.  The monument/marker looks pretty shiny and there may or may not be a cow engraved on it...I've never visited it though since it is inaccessible to anyone but the transients who walk through the field.  The easiest way to visit the monument would be to sprint across Lancaster Avenue, Frogger-like, get muddy shoes, chigger bites (bonus points for a snake bite), and then get hit by a car on your way back across Lancasater.  Easy money.



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Posted 08 June 2016 - 12:53 PM

Good spot Austin55. This is an area with a lot of "wasted" property that is probably not contributing to the tax rolls or to the viability/livability of the area. I think the blocks you drew in are a good approximation of how redevelopment should be mapped out but I'm not sure about the freeway access. I always felt that some sort of direct access off of I-30 and the Chisholm Parkway onto Forest Park Blvd. and points downtown would be a good idea but now that the flyovers are complete there might not be adequate room for that idea to be realized. Maybe an expanded/streamlined intersection with Henderson/SH199 could handle the commuter traffic, especially if the street were opened a little up and traffic signals re-timed. It might be tricky but I would support an effort for the city to cost-share parking structures with weekend-only businesses (churches, synagogues, etc.) within two miles of downtown and use those as points along a streetcar or express bus system that would then bring commuters into town, weekday parking and ride combined and discounted. That would negate the need for those ramps off of I-30 into town. An emphasis on improving arterial routes into downtown would also serve to keep commuters from having to use freeways to access the central city; the on-again-delayed-again Hemphill connector comes to mind, as well as improvements to White Settlement Road. 



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Posted 09 June 2016 - 08:02 AM

The chaos in that area is leftover from when I-30 used to run elevated from Lancaster on the north side of the T&P area.



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Posted 25 June 2016 - 11:18 AM

This is an excellent proposal. Every time I pass the Public Market I think this would go a long way toward restoring the viability of that emporium.

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Posted 08 July 2016 - 09:49 AM

I believe I heard a fenced 3-acre dog park was planned for a portion of that area because there is a lack of green space on that side of Downtown.



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Posted 08 July 2016 - 10:06 AM

Based on the pictures above, it looks like there is a lot of green space in the area.  It's just undesirable/impossible to get to because of the street network.  I'm going to assume that the rumor you may have heard did not include demolishing a building or converting a parking lot.

 

I would say there is a lack of parks.

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Posted 08 July 2016 - 11:36 AM

There is indeed plans for a park below the interchange east of Henderson and south of Lancaster.

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Posted 03 May 2017 - 12:16 AM

An idea of what a full build out of this idea might look like.

 

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Posted 03 May 2017 - 08:04 AM

I believe I heard a fenced 3-acre dog park was planned for a portion of that area because there is a lack of green space on that side of Downtown.

 

 

An idea of what a full build out of this idea might look like.

 

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 I hope that a park, as conceptually rendered earlier, is included. 






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