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#51 PeopleAreStrange

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Posted 30 May 2017 - 11:10 PM

FWTA is planning to increase transit fares soon. Among the proposals at today's meeting:

 

$2.00 for a single bus ride with no free transfers (no more two hour passes),

$5.00 for a local day pass on all busses and rail within this county,

$12.00 for a regional day pass to Dallas or Denton.

 

Also, the downtown free zone would be eliminated, and Molly would require a fare.

 

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Hopefully, they keep Molly free (it's been useful when I've travelled across downtown with a group) and don't elimilate two hour passes (it would cost twice as much to transfer, or as someone else pointed out, go to the store).


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Posted 31 May 2017 - 10:29 AM

Thanks for reporting on this, people. 

I'm with you on your thoughts. I'm not to sure charging for Molly would ever be worth it, and the passes are handy. Having to pay transfer costs does seem odd and just makes it more of a hassle. 

 

It's always a bummer to see costs increase for anything, but maybe this will provide some extra cashflow for better service.

 

By comparison, here's a few other nearby system prices

 

Houston - Single Ride $1.25, $3.00 for day pass.

San Antonio - Single Ride $1.30, $.15 transfer charge. $2.75 for day pass.

OKC - Single Ride $1.75, $4.00 for day pass. 

Austin - Single Ride $1.25, $2.50 for day pass
Dallas - 2 hours pass $2.50, $5.00 for day pass

El Paso - Single ride $1.50 (free transfer in two hour window), $3.50 for day pass



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Posted 31 May 2017 - 02:15 PM

Dallas is planning to increase fares soon as well, and they're planning to eliminate 2-hour passes and day passes, replacing them with $3.00 AM or PM passes that are good for half a day.

 

Not sure what happens if you buy a pass at 11:59 AM...


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Posted 03 June 2017 - 01:30 PM

In the words of one of my former bosses.  Everything goes up except salaries, there's nothing you can do about it.

 

Did you notice that he excluded salaries?  I guess he was expecting all of us to work for him for 8 hours and then go get a part time job for after hours.



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Posted 02 August 2017 - 03:25 PM

Interesting...

"She (Mayor Price) also discussed a possible $400 million bond issue in 2018 -- with 65 percent of that money dedicated to transportation."

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Posted 02 August 2017 - 03:56 PM

Interesting...

"She (Mayor Price) also discussed a possible $400 million bond issue in 2018 -- with 65 percent of that money dedicated to transportation."
 

 

I'm sure in city-speak that means streets.


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Posted 03 August 2017 - 10:18 AM

 

Interesting...

"She (Mayor Price) also discussed a possible $400 million bond issue in 2018 -- with 65 percent of that money dedicated to transportation."
 

 

I'm sure in city-speak that means streets.

 

 

 

Yeh probably. The followup statement,

 

 

She didn't get into super specifics -- but I believe street improvements and crosswalk improvements were mentioned.

 

S. Main cost $8.6 million to rebuild, and has been very successful so far. Even a small chunk of $260 million would go a long way towards getting a few new streets fixed up with better pedestrian/bike accessibility. 

Would be nice if another chunk could go towards The T to help improve bus frequency on some routes.  



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Posted 04 August 2017 - 02:14 PM

The T is also looking into a Cultural District <-> Downtown circulator. Seems like it would be primarily a tourist shuttle, but I could see residents of either location using it (especially downtown residents using the grocery options along West 7th). There really is a lot of development and density along this line. The route would also be the first to run down 4th street adjacent to Sundance Plaza, significant because many of the best public plazas worldwide have direct transit connections. I would assume it will operate similar to the soon-to-be defunct route 15 which is the Saturday stockyards<->downtown shuttle. Route 15 costs $1.75 and runs every 30 minutes. I'd hope this new route would run with more frequency, at least every 15. Molly runs every 10 minutes and is free.

 

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Alright some info on this. It is 75% funded and expected to launch in the fall. It will be called "The Dash" and run every 15 minutes. The T is purchasing new, all electric and "sleek" buses to run the route, which will be the first of thier kind with the T.  Buses will have WiFi. It will run 10 - 0 M-th and 10 - 2:30 am on Fri and Sat. The route will connect to the ITC and overlap Molly for a few blocks.

If the Dash is successful on W7th, plans call for a Southside connector next, followed by Stockyards/Panther Island, and finally Race Street as the final phase.



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Posted 04 August 2017 - 02:21 PM

So... this is their answer to streetcars... 


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Posted 04 August 2017 - 02:31 PM

I posted a new thread about the Dash.

 

http://www.fortworth...?showtopic=6459



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Posted 07 August 2017 - 10:27 AM

The west 7th and Crockett Row folks are hoping that people who go there on weekends use this service.  I have my doubts that under 30 crowd will use public transportation.  Additionally, the resulting hassles that the additional parking in Sundance Square that could occur by those only using the free parking would be problematic for those business in the downtown area for their patrons.



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Posted 07 August 2017 - 11:17 AM

Ideally, suburbanites will take commuter rail into downtown, then transfer to this line.


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Posted 07 August 2017 - 11:30 AM

FWTA is planning to increase transit fares soon. Among the proposals at today's meeting:

 

$2.00 for a single bus ride with no free transfers (no more two hour passes),

$5.00 for a local day pass on all busses and rail within this county,

$12.00 for a regional day pass to Dallas or Denton.

 

Also, the downtown free zone would be eliminated, and Molly would require a fare.

 

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Hopefully, they keep Molly free (it's been useful when I've travelled across downtown with a group) and don't elimilate two hour passes (it would cost twice as much to transfer, or as someone else pointed out, go to the store).

 

An update to this: Regional fares (for travel to Dallas or Denton) will remain the same for now: $5 one way; $10 a day.

 

All other proposed fare changes will be implemented next week.


- Dylan


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Posted 09 November 2017 - 07:35 PM

The T proposes a few changes to bus schedules on West Side slated to start next March.

Rt 2 - every 15 mins till midnight 7 days a week

Rt 26 - every 30 mins till 11 pm 7 days a week

Rt 57 - Eliminated

Molly the Trolley - frequency decrease to every 20 mins

I'm excited to see such high frequency on RT 2 for extended hours, and the higher frequency on 26 should benefit the Las Vegas trail area.

No surprises with Molly, it's rather pointless now.

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 10:13 PM

Route 26 looks like a confusing mess on a map. Any chance they plan on simplifying it?

 

How late into the evening will route 2 run with a frequency of 15 minutes? I'd be pleasantly shocked if route 2 were to run every 15 minutes late at night.

 

The elimination of route 57 means people near Montgomery and I-30 won't be within easy walking distance of a line. Como residents will have to transfer to go downtown.

 

I'm disappointed to see route 10 won't be extended further west. I guess funds are tight.


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