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#1 John T Roberts

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Posted 16 August 2014 - 10:03 AM

The Fort Worth Business Press reports that The "T", The Fort Worth Housing Authority, The City of Fort Worth, and Fort Worth South are going to start exploring the possibilities of constructing a mixed-use project on the parking lot immediately south of the T&P Station.  This project will have mostly a residential component, but it will feature ground floor retail that will serve transit riders and the neighborhood.  In addition to this, the project will replace and add to the amount of parking provided for TRE riders. 

 

http://fwbusinesspre...dP-Station.aspx



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Posted 16 August 2014 - 11:54 AM

This might be a good starting point for a privately financed streetcar route. Perhaps Fort Worth South, Inc. could put together a consortium of businesses and developers working in the Southside...



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Posted 16 August 2014 - 03:40 PM

I'm trying to figure out what the extent of the lot is. The entire thing seems to be bigger than 2.1 acres. I'm also wondering if that fenced in power station currently on the corner will be removed/replaced. 

 

Either way it's an awesome little bit of news. I would love it to be 10 floors, not for the height but for the density it would provide with immediate access to the TRE. I suspect a garage will be included, both for TRE riders and residents of the building. 

 

All 4 corners of that intersection are empty currently. It's in bad shape. 



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Posted 16 August 2014 - 09:01 PM

Oh look, urban redevelopment can happen next to freeways.

 

It sounds like park and ride passengers will have to do a lot more walking, but this plan sounds good otherwise.


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Posted 16 August 2014 - 09:16 PM

Oh look, urban redevelopment can happen next to freeways.

 

It sounds like park and ride passengers will have to do a lot more walking, but this plan sounds good otherwise.

 

It hasn't happened yet, but I think the point is that is that it can happen next to RAILROAD TRANSIT. There is not real good access to the I-30 highway right there. The final mix of market to sub-market units hasn't been determined yet either, but the presence of the interstate right there might result in a more subsidized units that is being called for at this point.



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Posted 17 August 2014 - 11:13 AM

 

Oh look, urban redevelopment can happen next to freeways.

 

It hasn't happened yet, but I think the point is that is that it can happen next to RAILROAD TRANSIT. There is not real good access to the I-30 highway right there.

 

Whenever the FWTA is a partner, my hackles are raised; never has it met a commuter rail study that it did not like.

 

Questions that come to mind immediately -

 

Where is the TOD in Richland Hills, Hurst or ITC?  It woiuld be great if the FWTA actually did somethings with results at these stations which would make this propose workshop matter?  Why would someone living in the CBD need a commuter rail; isn't the concept more that the suburbs should be the site for TOD?  How many residents (%) actually chose T&P residents because it is a TRE terminal?

 

Putting a commuter rail TOD in the CBD is like putting a cart ahead of the horse; it does not make any sense to me.  Unfortunately, I believe that this will simply amount as yet another meaningless study, waste of time and waste of resources.



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Posted 17 August 2014 - 10:28 PM

Can we let the current plethora of mixed-use developments actually complete and fill-up before we spend tax money on more?



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Posted 26 August 2014 - 08:53 PM

$60 million mixed use project proposed for Victory at South Main
http://www.star-tele...sp=/99/189/228/

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Posted 26 August 2014 - 10:52 PM

The FWBP article has a bit more info. 10 stories. That's pretty impressive. Lot's of good ideas to, like using the parking lot to elevate views, and what sounds like a green roof. 

Still at least a year from construction though... Gotta love that waiting game!

 

btw does anyone know if the presentation will be put online someplace?



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Posted 25 September 2014 - 07:59 AM

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Guessing

Red=Retail

Gray=Garage

Tan=Residents 



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Posted 25 September 2014 - 08:01 AM

Rough rendering, but certainly interesting. Something like that would be great for the neighborhood. I would love to finally see the old gym building renovated.

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Posted 25 September 2014 - 08:53 AM

I would love to finally see the old gym building renovated.

 

With this built across the street, that gym would get a renovation in a heartbeat.


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Posted 26 September 2014 - 03:41 AM

Another shot from Scott Nishimura, shows that the building won't come up to S. Main. 

 

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 10:04 PM

Stumbled across this, not sure how accurate or set in stone any of it is, but worth sharing I figure. 

 

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Posted 19 February 2016 - 11:46 PM

Been a while, but sounds like this is still stirring. Scott Nishimura reporting,

 

 

 

Among other projects highlighted was the proposed Fort Worth Housing Authority mixed-use, mixed-income project on the T transit parking lot at West Vickery Boulevard and South Main Street. The Housing Authority, with architect Bennett Benner Partners, continues to work on drawings for the residential and commercial project, which also now has a potential hotel in the mix. 


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Posted 20 February 2016 - 12:54 AM

I can see that entire row along I-30 lined with mid to high rise mixed use buildings.


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Posted 20 February 2016 - 10:08 AM

Another shot from Scott Nishimura, shows that the building won't come up to S. Main. 

 

 

There is an existing electrical service facility, a "sub-station" at that corner. It would have to be relocated for the proposed development to be built up to South Main Street; certainly possible, but expensive. Maybe as the density of development in the area continues to increase a plan can be devised to gradually replace overhead power lines with underground infrastructure. Doing this as streets are being rebuilt, and in conjunction with replacement of gas, water, sewer, and communications lines, and even streetcar tracks on selected streets would make the best economic sense overall.



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Posted 18 March 2016 - 09:56 PM

A rendering of this project that I had not previously seen can be viewed in THIS VIDEO.  Skip to the 3:45 mark.



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Posted 18 March 2016 - 10:41 PM

Driving through this and the T&P building down 30 is going to be cool. 

 

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This also got mentioned in an FWBP article recently

 

 

Other plans include ... ambitious plan for the development and construction of a transit-oriented development project at Vickery and South Main streets in partnership with the city, the Fort Worth Transit Authority and Near Southside Inc.

For that transit-oriented development project, Housing Solutions is finishing designs on what will be more than 230 apartments, a parking garage both below and above grade, possibly a boutique hotel and improved connections to downtown.

The agency is working with Bennett Benner Partners on the plans.

“I think we’re close to finishing the design and getting draft construction numbers, so we can see what our funding gap is,” said Byrne.

Ground could be broken as early as 2017, she said.

“Everyone’s excited about this project,” she said. “It’s a bigger project than ones we’ve done in the past, but it’s the next logical step

 

http://www.fortworth...d488466c04.html



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Posted 23 June 2016 - 01:15 PM

Here's an update on this project in an article in Fort Worth Business.  The project is going to get taller.  Is this a change from the art rendering in Post#19?

 

 

http://www.fortworth...532909b6c0.html



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Posted 23 June 2016 - 01:58 PM

Looks to me like that rendering already has 12 floors.

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Posted 23 June 2016 - 03:37 PM

Hotel and Rail to and from the Airport - a  great winning combination if TEXRail turns out to be a 7-day service.



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Posted 23 June 2016 - 03:37 PM

Yeah, we've known for a little while now it will have 12 floors. Good to see an update though. This is a big project that should really benefit a lot of things (S. Main, Vickery, and Lancaster could all see a nice boost, in addition to benefiting rail riders)

 

AND a 10 story hotel! very cool.



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Posted 11 August 2016 - 07:21 PM

The main building will be 156 feet tall, which would tie it for 50th tallest in the city with the 102 year old Burk Burnett building according to the tallest list here on the site



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Posted 11 August 2016 - 08:25 PM

Should the grain elevators be included in a list of tallest BUILDINGS? Structures? Absolutely, but are they appropriately classified in the same group as office buildings, hotels, residences, hospitals, and the like? (civic vertical inflation? :swg: )



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Posted 11 August 2016 - 08:52 PM

They do read as "buildings" in skyline shots and they do have multiple floors.  Antennas certainly don't have the substance that the elevators have.



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Posted 04 May 2017 - 06:19 PM

Additional renderings and info from BBPTX

 

 

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Posted 04 May 2017 - 08:51 PM

That looks great. It will completely change the look of that area.

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Posted 04 May 2017 - 09:32 PM

Yes please. When does this get started?... hopefully yesterday. :)

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Posted 04 May 2017 - 10:33 PM

Additional renderings and info from BBPTX


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  Are there plans for the use of Vickery Gym?



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Posted 05 May 2017 - 01:40 AM

Additional renderings and info from BBPTX
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  Are there plans for the use of Vickery Gym?

Good question renamerusk... I really like that structure. Every time I drive by it I think it needs to be repurposed or renovated to a public/community type center or event space

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Posted 05 May 2017 - 05:20 PM

 

Are there plans for the use of Vickery Gym?

 

 

Last mention of it was in 2015 and owner was looking into an event venue. Here's the thread.



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Posted 07 May 2017 - 08:20 PM

Looks like the president of Fort Worth Housing Solutions was fired last week.  Wonder if and how that will effect this project.



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Posted 09 May 2017 - 09:44 AM

Looks like the president of Fort Worth Housing Solutions was fired last week.  Wonder if and how that will effect this project.

 

Having read the article carefully, you have a good question about this particular project.  Apparently Ms. Byrne was a strong proponent of affordable housing for low-income families.  But that, I gather, is also the objective of Fort Worth Housing Solutions (formerly the Fort Worth Housing Authority).  However, according to the article, political disagreement has existed among local stakeholders about putting these multi-family low-income housing projects (such as the one the subject of this thread) in "high opportunity areas" where high-income people live.  Maybe that disagreement contributed to Ms. Byrnes' contract not being renewed.

 

As to the Vickery/S. Main apartment complex project, it looks from the drawing like it would be for high-income tenants.  Not affordable housing.  Of course I don't know what affordable housing is supposed to look like.  Of course the financing of these projects is subsidized.



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Posted 22 May 2017 - 03:42 PM

This FW Magazine article talks pretty in depth about the potential parking setup in the building, including possible plans to cut back on the number of spaces to save money. Earlier this year Streetsbolg put out an article about the negative effects of building too much parking in transit-oriented development.

The article also mentions that the project is not a priority for FW Housing Solutions (focus is on Caville and Butler first), so it could be a while before construction starts on this one.







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