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#1 johnfwd

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 10:03 AM

Friday tie-loosening thought here, no offense to dog owners.   "I  love dogs," Barney Fife said in an episode long ago.  I used to enjoy running at Z Boaz park in south Fort Worth.  I still do, except I stay away from the running trails for fear of encountering a dog running loose just ahead or behind his owner.  Of course dogs are supposed to be on a leash in public places, so says Fort Worth's animal control ordinance.  Tell that to a lot of park visitors who use the park so their canines can run wild, sow their oats, etc.  Nice for them; fear and trepidation for the unwary runner, walker, maybe even bicycler.  I'm a lawyer and used to shout at dog owners at the park that they are risking liability issues if their pet attacks someone.  That only riles a dog owner to shout back, "my dog is friendly and he obeys me!"  Yeah, okay. 



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Posted 19 July 2013 - 10:31 AM

I'm a dog lover, but I am not a fan of dogs running loose anywhere but in a dog park. The law is for them to be on a leash, and that's where I feel they should be.  I always walk my dog on a leash, no matter where I take her.  

 

My biggest pet peeve with loose dogs is out in the country where me and my FWBA friends ride our bicycles.  Often, we will be chased by packs of dogs.  It is especially bad in Johnson County.  Parker County has leash laws and most people there keep their dogs up.  In Johnson County, packs of dogs run loose from border to border, and it really makes an enjoyable ride sometimes frightening.  On the Century of the Month, which runs from SW Arlington to Lillian, Venus, Mountain Peak, Maypearl, and back, one of our riders was bitten by a pack of labs, who I never thought were really serious before that day.  Obviously, I was wrong. 



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Posted 20 July 2013 - 07:35 PM

Start carrying a riding crop...

 

There are so many irresponsible dog and cat owners.  I hate dog $%*t in my yard, and night roaming cats.



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Posted 22 July 2013 - 08:23 AM

That's exactly why I prefer urban riding:  the dogs tend to be single, maybe a pair, and if they are loose, they are either territorial over a very small territory (50' of frontage) or they are ranging outside of their territory and don't feel the need to chase down bicycles.  Not that city riding is immune for dog attacks, but I think it's a little easier to avoid them than it is in the country where if the road goes through a dog's territory, there's no avoiding him and his territory is large enough for him to catch up to a rider.


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Posted 22 July 2013 - 10:13 AM

Doohickie, you have made a good point.  I'm almost never chased by a dog when I'm riding in the city.  Most cities have leash laws and dog catchers, so there is less chance of a dog running loose.  We also don't seem to have much trouble in Parker County because of their laws.  It's in places where there aren't any leash laws where we run into the packs of dogs that chase.



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Posted 23 July 2013 - 06:49 AM

True, the conversation has steered toward dogs hounding bicyclers, most likely on country roads.  Not wishing to belabor my point about dogs running loose at city parks, I will just add that dog owners and public authorities generally ignore the leash law.   Of course  the leash law is customarily enforced on a complaint basis.  But if the police were desirous of enforcing the leash law at the particular park I mentioned in a previous post, all they have to do is drive around any day of the week and they'll spot dogs running or walking loose.  Now, sensibly, I could care less about a "little yapper" not on leash (whose nip at my heels is annoying but tolerable).  It's the big dogs I'm afraid of.  Yes, some big dogs look harmless and some may indeed be obedient to their owners.  But how am I to feel confident (as I do my running on winding trails) that I will never encounter an unpredictable attack animal?  I don't believe this city (or any other) makes such distinctions when they enact animal control ordinances with leash provisions.

 

I agree that, in addition to leash law enforcement, the establishment of dog parks is a good idea.



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Posted 29 July 2013 - 03:56 PM

Even a pair of dogs chasing you can be scary. I was recently chased, in my neighborhood, by two chihuahuas on my bike, and I'm telling y'all, I could not peddle fast enough away. They were viciously barking and I know they would have bitten me if I'd been closer. I was fearful for my tires.  And my legs.

 

My fault for riding a cruiser. No, scratch that. Owner's fault for letting dogs out of yard the and off a leash.


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Posted 29 July 2013 - 04:07 PM

Carry a small bat and whack 'em next time.



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Posted 03 August 2013 - 08:37 AM

Can of bear spray or the CHL tool will usually do the trick....



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Posted 05 August 2013 - 08:09 AM

Squirt 'em with your water bottle.

I was in Austin this past week and I was surprised that there are several off-leash dog areas along their river trail. The surprise was that the dogs, all of them, didn't show any interest in passing cyclists.
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Posted 05 August 2013 - 12:33 PM

Cheaper Than Dirt carries this for $40. If you go into the store on 820 and 35W you can get essentially the same thing but half the price... buy a medium to large can (4-6oz) of their splatter spray for $9 (the one that the police use) and a universal fit flashlight holster with belt clip for $5.  Secure this to your bike with a pair of plastic cable ties (<$1 at Wal-Mart or Home Depot). 

 

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 02:24 PM

I would be as worried about accidentally spraying myself with that as I would be about the dogs getting me.


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Posted 06 August 2013 - 12:43 PM

About a month ago, three of us were pepper sprayed when someone in our group was aiming at some dogs that were chasing.  I just got a little bit in my eyes, but if I was a dog, I would not chase.






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