Jump to content


Photo
- - - - -

Lancaster Avenue Apartments/Retail/Garage

Downtown New Apartments Lancaster Corridor New Construction

  • Please log in to reply
202 replies to this topic

#1 dangr.dave

dangr.dave

    Elite Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 655 posts
  • Location:Fort Worth

Posted 18 January 2013 - 10:14 AM

Saw this in today's Startele-Gram:

 

http://www.star-tele...or-parking.html

 

"The city is moving ahead with plans for an apartment and retail development along Lancaster Avenue at the south end of downtown now that it has acquired land for a parking garage."



#2 cberen1

cberen1

    Skyscraper Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,302 posts
  • Location:Fort Worth

Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:34 PM

Excellent.  I can't tell you how pleased I am to hear that.



#3 JBB

JBB

    Skyscraper Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,324 posts
  • Location:Bedford

Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:23 PM

Let's all hope this one works out better for the city than the Mercado.  I believe they took a bath to the tune of $2.5 mil (about half of their investment) on that one.



#4 Austin55

Austin55

    Skyscraper Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,981 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Tarrant

Posted 18 January 2013 - 04:44 PM

111024_TIF8_Lancaster_Watercolor_Page_01

 

http://www.dfwi.org/...caster-place--2

 

That has been on the DTFW site for a while, but still a great visualization. Also some numbers on the link including the architects and other details. IDK how up to date it all is though.

Same guy's that did the 7-11 and Museum place areas, as well as The Depot aperments in west downtown.

http://jhparch.com/i.../projects#texas



#5 dangr.dave

dangr.dave

    Elite Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 655 posts
  • Location:Fort Worth

Posted 18 January 2013 - 08:37 PM

Let's hope that if Lancaster gets redeveloped, they will finally do something good with the T&P warehouse.



#6 Austin55

Austin55

    Skyscraper Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,981 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Tarrant

Posted 21 January 2013 - 09:47 PM

Anyone want to speculate what sorts of retail will go in?



#7 Doohickie

Doohickie

    Skyscraper Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,335 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:76123

Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:11 AM

I hope it's not just bars and restaurants. I mean, those are good, but I would like to see honest-to-goodness retail shops go in there. Maybe a 7-11, a dry cleaner, to support the neighborhood, but also maybe some apparel shops.
My blog: Doohickie

#8 cberen1

cberen1

    Skyscraper Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,302 posts
  • Location:Fort Worth

Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:27 AM

I hope it's not just bars and restaurants. I mean, those are good, but I would like to see honest-to-goodness retail shops go in there. Maybe a 7-11, a dry cleaner, to support the neighborhood, but also maybe some apparel shops.

 

I agree, but it's tough to predict or mandate.  Look at how long it took to get any kind of grocery downtown.  I don't know why people seem perfectly willing to throw money at opening a restaurant (one of the most likely to fail entrepreneurial ventures), but unlikely to try out other small businesses.  The area could actually use a few restaurants, but I agree that other retail would be better.  Here's a list of things I wouldn't mind seeing:

 

- Convenience store

- Bank

- Dry Cleaner

- Salon

- Bakery

- Financial Services

- Specialty Services (wedding planning, interior design, tailor, etc.)

- Home Decor

- Retail Clothing

- Specialty Retail (stationary, florist, shoe store, gallery, etc.)

 

I'm sure I'm missing a few.



#9 Doohickie

Doohickie

    Skyscraper Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,335 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:76123

Posted 22 January 2013 - 11:28 AM

A (small) hardware store would be good. A True Value squeezed into the old CVS building near me; it does rather well, even though ere are a couple of Home Depots about 5 miles away.
My blog: Doohickie

#10 Doohickie

Doohickie

    Skyscraper Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,335 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:76123

Posted 22 January 2013 - 11:29 AM

In fact, maybe a CVS would be good. There's a Walgreens downtown but no CVS. It's not uncommon for those two to locate near each other.
My blog: Doohickie

#11 johnfwd

johnfwd

    Skyscraper Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,849 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:southwest
  • Interests:Running, bicycling, bowling, nightclub life, science, technology.

Posted 22 January 2013 - 11:34 AM

I hope it's not just bars and restaurants. I mean, those are good, but I would like to see honest-to-goodness retail shops go in there. Maybe a 7-11, a dry cleaner, to support the neighborhood, but also maybe some apparel shops.

 

I agree, but it's tough to predict or mandate.  Look at how long it took to get any kind of grocery downtown.  I don't know why people seem perfectly willing to throw money at opening a restaurant (one of the most likely to fail entrepreneurial ventures), but unlikely to try out other small businesses.  The area could actually use a few restaurants, but I agree that other retail would be better.  Here's a list of things I wouldn't mind seeing:

 

- Convenience store

- Bank

- Dry Cleaner

- Salon

- Bakery

- Financial Services

- Specialty Services (wedding planning, interior design, tailor, etc.)

- Home Decor

- Retail Clothing

- Specialty Retail (stationary, florist, shoe store, gallery, etc.)

 

I'm sure I'm missing a few.

These are good suggestions.  But I work in an office not far to the west of Lancaster and would like to see another restaurant in that area other than the Santa Fe Depot eatery.  A nice all-purpose restaurant, not another taco or hamburger place.  Also, it looks from the artist's rendering to have a bit of the West 7th modern look, which I like.  Anyone know what the latest is on the T&P Warehouse?  Everytime I walk by there it seems somebody's talking a photo of a cute little girl sitting against a wall or a few teen-age girls doing an ad photo shoot.



#12 Doohickie

Doohickie

    Skyscraper Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,335 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:76123

Posted 22 January 2013 - 12:44 PM

I said "not just bars & restaurants." I think they should be part of the mix, but other stuff would be cool, too. Have you eaten at T&P Tavern? Not a huge menu, but very tasty.


My blog: Doohickie

#13 johnfwd

johnfwd

    Skyscraper Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,849 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:southwest
  • Interests:Running, bicycling, bowling, nightclub life, science, technology.

Posted 22 January 2013 - 12:50 PM

Yes, T&P Tavern has pretty good food, though I don't care for the "sports bar" atmosphere in the interior and the metallic "picnic" tables and seating.  But I'm not sure it's always open; I went over there for a noon-time lunch recently and it was closed. 



#14 Volare

Volare

    Skyscraper Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,180 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Oakhurst, Fort Worth, TX
  • Interests:running, cycling, geocaching, photography, gardening, hunting, fishing...

Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:49 PM

I could go for a Home Depot or Lowes anywhere inside the loop. I think (pretty sure) the only one that technically is is the HD over by Hulen. Every single other one is outside the loop. HD has done some "urban" stores, and I think it's a huge unmet need here in Fort Worth.



#15 Jeriat

Jeriat

    Skyscraper Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,006 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:SWFW

Posted 22 January 2013 - 07:59 PM

In fact, maybe a CVS would be good. There's a Walgreens downtown but no CVS. It's not uncommon for those two to locate near each other.

 

There needs to be another drug store within the CORE of downtown (east of Henderson), but I think it should be in that lot next to the Kress Building. Perfect if you ask me, considering how many people visiting Sundance Square ask where the nearest drug store is.

 

As for the Lancaster Corridor, I pretty much agree with everything else that was listed above. Most importantly, though, the T&P Warehouse and Post Office needs just as much attention. 


7fwPZnE.png

 

8643298391_d47584a085_b.jpg


#16 Austin55

Austin55

    Skyscraper Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,981 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Tarrant

Posted 22 January 2013 - 08:50 PM

Well with 130 new units, however may condos and hotel rooms (and visitors) the Omni has, I'd bet a fair amount a CVS or similar will pop up down here someplace.



#17 Doohickie

Doohickie

    Skyscraper Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,335 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:76123

Posted 27 January 2013 - 04:38 PM

Let's make it look like this.

 

2061197925105ab201892f3.46760849.jpeg


My blog: Doohickie

#18 Jeriat

Jeriat

    Skyscraper Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,006 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:SWFW

Posted 27 January 2013 - 05:21 PM

Let's make it look like this.

 

2061197925105ab201892f3.46760849.jpeg

 

Yeah. 

Take off a few floors and it would work. 


7fwPZnE.png

 

8643298391_d47584a085_b.jpg


#19 BlueMound

BlueMound

    Elite Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 892 posts

Posted 27 January 2013 - 07:08 PM

Hey Doohickie.

I like that building.

What's the name of that ?



#20 Austin55

Austin55

    Skyscraper Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,981 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Tarrant

Posted 27 January 2013 - 09:17 PM

http://en.wikipedia...._Justice_Centre

 

My initial reaction to that was eww, but it grew on me. Something like that would be pretty fun in funkytown. Lancaster seems a bit of an odd spot to me, but it would look dead sexy in the hospital district or 7th or maybe north downtown along belknap someplace, in my opinion. 

It sort of looks like a staked up TCC campus haha.



#21 Doohickie

Doohickie

    Skyscraper Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,335 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:76123

Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:51 AM

Hey Doohickie.

I like that building.

What's the name of that ?

 

Looks like Austin55 answered that.  I just saw the picture on another website, blipfoto.com, where members post up to 1 photo per day.  I participate on that site.  Their landing page shows the most recent photos, and the pic I linked happened to be on the landing page.

 

I love the art deco look that dominates downtown's architecture, but I think sprinkling in some ultra-modern buildings (TCC, Omin) complements the more traditional architecture.


My blog: Doohickie

#22 ron4Life

ron4Life

    Senior Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 306 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:East Tarrant County

Posted 30 June 2013 - 08:45 AM

If I am not mistaking, did the TIF 8 Board members or some developer say that this downtown Lancaster project will move forward as planned even without the church's participation in the project? soooo... what's going on here?



#23 PeopleAreStrange

PeopleAreStrange

    Skyscraper Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,153 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Suburbia

Posted 30 June 2013 - 02:41 PM

Let's make it look like this.

 

2061197925105ab201892f3.46760849.jpeg

 

 

Ick. I don't like that at all.


- Dylan


#24 Austin55

Austin55

    Skyscraper Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,981 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Tarrant

Posted 26 August 2013 - 07:24 PM

So is there a delay in getting going with this, or were there just no plans to start it asap? 

I saw some electric workers doing stuff to a box behind the "watergardens wall", probably unrelated, but got me wondering. 



#25 Jeriat

Jeriat

    Skyscraper Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,006 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:SWFW

Posted 26 August 2013 - 11:02 PM

So is there a delay in getting going with this, or were there just no plans to start it asap? 

I saw some electric workers doing stuff to a box behind the "watergardens wall", probably unrelated, but got me wondering. 

 

It's just, no one's said anything on it, lately. 

Who knows? 


7fwPZnE.png

 

8643298391_d47584a085_b.jpg


#26 Austin55

Austin55

    Skyscraper Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,981 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Tarrant

Posted 12 October 2013 - 01:12 AM

With the bulk of Sundance wrapping up soon, this should be the biggest project going on in DT, which is why I'm very excited about it. Lancaster's massive sidewalks and existing art and architecture would really make a beautiful and walkable street. I'd love to eventually see the T&P stations lot made into something for people. The Porch at 30th street station in Philly would be great for inspiration. 

I found a few new renderings on the architects website.

oE4nb3o.jpg

 

 

 

4B3Llay.jpg

 

lwPJQV4.jpg

 

 

More rendering of the office portion here and the residential portion here

 

If Dave's linked article holds true, groundbreaking should be in just 2 and a half months. 



#27 BlueMound

BlueMound

    Elite Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 892 posts

Posted 12 October 2013 - 06:38 AM

Wow!
These Lancaster projects are exciting.

#28 JBB

JBB

    Skyscraper Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,324 posts
  • Location:Bedford

Posted 12 October 2013 - 03:12 PM

I really hope this project comes together.  That would be a huge shot in the arm for that area.

 

Am I seeing correctly that the south side of the zipper building will be blocked?  That will certainly be the end of an era for FW as far as I'm concerned.



#29 prideftw

prideftw

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 192 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Fort Worth
  • Interests:men, reading, music, and development

Posted 12 October 2013 - 05:46 PM

That is an era that needs to end, lol,  I mean anything that will make Fort worth look better is never a problem.



#30 prideftw

prideftw

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 192 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Fort Worth
  • Interests:men, reading, music, and development

Posted 12 October 2013 - 05:47 PM

i do wish that these buildings were bigger however, I mean this is Downtown 



#31 Jeriat

Jeriat

    Skyscraper Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,006 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:SWFW

Posted 12 October 2013 - 06:05 PM

i do wish that these buildings were bigger however, I mean this is Downtown 

 

In due time. 

But they should be in the right place. 


7fwPZnE.png

 

8643298391_d47584a085_b.jpg


#32 JBB

JBB

    Skyscraper Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,324 posts
  • Location:Bedford

Posted 12 October 2013 - 06:49 PM

That is an era that needs to end, lol,  I mean anything that will make Fort worth look better is never a problem.

 

Oh believe me, I'm happy about this project.  Just having a moment of nostalgia.  Seeing the zipper building while riding by on the old freeway overhead is one of my first memories of downtown as a kid.



#33 prideftw

prideftw

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 192 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Fort Worth
  • Interests:men, reading, music, and development

Posted 12 October 2013 - 07:06 PM

That is so cool



#34 cberen1

cberen1

    Skyscraper Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,302 posts
  • Location:Fort Worth

Posted 14 October 2013 - 08:58 AM

Lancaster from I-35 to Lamar is really Fort Worth's best shot at a grand boulevard, Champ-Elysees style.  Perhaps grand works of public art at the West end (in the grassy area in the middle of the Macon and Cherry St. on-ramps) and on the East end (Haynes memorial triangle).  Something really tall.



#35 Jeriat

Jeriat

    Skyscraper Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,006 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:SWFW

Posted 14 October 2013 - 11:13 AM

More renderings 

 

L09_4.jpg L09_5.jpg


7fwPZnE.png

 

8643298391_d47584a085_b.jpg


#36 johnfwd

johnfwd

    Skyscraper Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,849 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:southwest
  • Interests:Running, bicycling, bowling, nightclub life, science, technology.

Posted 31 October 2013 - 07:01 AM

 

i do wish that these buildings were bigger however, I mean this is Downtown 

 

In due time. 

But they should be in the right place. 

 

I agree.  Lancaster Avenue is along the south periphery of downtown (as of the present age, of course).  Lesser density generally begets lower-profile structures.  But, correct me if I'm wrong, doesn't it seem like downtown FW developers are fixated with 6-story building projects?  The last and most recent "skyscrapers" were the Carnegie Building and the Omni hotel.  I believe that any vibrant metropolis needs to flex its architectural muscles every now and then and go big.  Look, Oklahoma City went big with its energy tower downtown, and OKC is smaller population-wise than Fort Worth.  Other than that, I won't believe this Lancaster residential/retail project until I actually see it (and every time I've walked along Lancaster from my Macon Street law office to mail a letter at the post office, I've seen the same depressing-looking row of parking lots and dilapidated structures). 



#37 youngalum

youngalum

    Elite Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 539 posts

Posted 31 October 2013 - 10:51 AM

I will be pleasantly suprised if this project ever happens.



#38 Austin55

Austin55

    Skyscraper Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,981 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Tarrant

Posted 31 October 2013 - 02:55 PM

The Omni wasn't even that long ago... And I think the Omni looks better in FW's existing context than Devon does in OKC'S.

It's supposed to break ground January. We'll see. I think it'll happen, but I'm usually over optimistic about stuff getting done here.

#39 Jeriat

Jeriat

    Skyscraper Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,006 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:SWFW

Posted 31 October 2013 - 07:20 PM

I'm a skyscraper fanatic, myself. But anything over 15 floors on Lancaster shouldn't happen. Those surface lots on the east side along Jones and Calhoun are perfect sites.

 

 

I will be pleasantly suprised if this project ever happens.

 

Why? 

It's not like it's a BIG project. Those are typically the ones that get axed in this town. 


7fwPZnE.png

 

8643298391_d47584a085_b.jpg


#40 johnfwd

johnfwd

    Skyscraper Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,849 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:southwest
  • Interests:Running, bicycling, bowling, nightclub life, science, technology.

Posted 01 November 2013 - 12:09 PM

Now that Fort Worthians are proud of their new public plaza in the heart of downtown, we need to turn our attention back to the dilapidated Santa Fe warehouse.  For shame on the City Council or whoever is responsibility for this long-running embarrassment!   If it's not the owner's fault for the current stalemate, then our council needs to find out what's going on and how to get this building back on track for rehabilitation.  I usually don't sign petitions, but I'd sign one circulated by concerned downtown property owners (among others) to put the public spotlight on this.  Have we just become resigned to this multi-story blighted structure with its broken windows, weathered exterior, flooded basement, and potential public safety hazard?



#41 Austin55

Austin55

    Skyscraper Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,981 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Tarrant

Posted 01 November 2013 - 12:12 PM

Another reason this development on Lancaster is good. Might be a jump start to getting that fixed up. "Growth is contagious" as Mayor Price said today. 



#42 JBB

JBB

    Skyscraper Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,324 posts
  • Location:Bedford

Posted 01 November 2013 - 02:09 PM

It's noboby's fault but the owner at this point.  And it's the T&P Warehouse, not Santa Fe.



#43 Austin55

Austin55

    Skyscraper Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,981 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Tarrant

Posted 13 January 2014 - 10:35 AM

From Sandra Baker on Twitter.

 

wIXNLOg.jpg



#44 prideftw

prideftw

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 192 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Fort Worth
  • Interests:men, reading, music, and development

Posted 14 January 2014 - 03:29 PM

I hope the plan does move foward.

#45 Austin55

Austin55

    Skyscraper Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,981 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Tarrant

Posted 03 February 2014 - 06:48 PM

More delays, but hopefully progress in the future. Construction slated to start this fall, completion by 2016.

ST: "Fort Worth to seek master developer for development along Lancaster"

 

 


 


#46 JBB

JBB

    Skyscraper Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,324 posts
  • Location:Bedford

Posted 03 February 2014 - 10:36 PM

If this means that a developer is taking the reigns and the city is backing off, then any delay is welcome.



#47 Austin55

Austin55

    Skyscraper Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,981 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Tarrant

Posted 09 April 2014 - 03:53 PM

Here's a page talking about Lancaster's Request for Qualifications. I'm not sure what exactly that entails, but the PDF lists the Lancaster Place as starting Q4 and goes a bit in depth about the Lancaster corridor as a whole, along with the development poential of the street. 

 

http://dfwi.org/what...s/lancaster-rfq



#48 John T Roberts

John T Roberts

    Administrator

  • Admin
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 11,672 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:South Fort Worth
  • Interests:Architecture, Photography, Bicycling, Historic Preservation

Posted 06 May 2014 - 03:24 PM

I don't receive Downtown Design Review Board notices and packets any more since the planner involved with the DDRB left.  However, I was wondering what was on the May agenda and I checked the city's website.  The meeting was on May 1st and the Lancaster project submitted the garage for approval.



#49 Fort Worthology

Fort Worthology

    Skyscraper Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,032 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:A place

Posted 06 May 2014 - 03:27 PM

I really hope we don't just see the garage built and then the rest of the project goes south.



#50 BlueMound

BlueMound

    Elite Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 892 posts

Posted 07 May 2014 - 12:25 AM

Pinnacle Bank deal moves FW's Lancaster Place project forward
http://fwbusinesspre...e.aspx?aid=5265

Apologies if this article has already been posted





Also tagged with one or more of these keywords: Downtown, New Apartments, Lancaster Corridor, New Construction

0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users