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#1 Jtcu

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 11:01 PM

Just saw this from the Star-Telegram. It's going to be built on Weatherford next to part of TCC's Health Sciences Campus.

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 06:57 AM

Construction on this seven-story building has begun, as reported in the ST article by Shirley Jinkins. As an attorney practicing civil law, I'm pleased we're getting a new facility. The space for county and probate courts in the old courthouse is cramped. And the civil district courts compete for limited space with their criminal counterparts in the justice center.


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Posted 30 May 2012 - 07:06 AM

Note the angels? They're from the other courthouse (the one just west of the old courthouse).
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Posted 30 May 2012 - 10:12 AM

Note the angels? They're from the other courthouse (the one just west of the old courthouse).


Hopefully this means they will FINALLY tear down that embarrasment Civil Courts we have now....

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 12:48 PM

I think that's the point. You can probably find a thread on that somewhere on the forum.
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Posted 30 May 2012 - 01:23 PM

The old Civil Courts Building was slated to be demolished a few years ago. However, the County ran out of money, so they decided to leave it standing until they had the money to demolish it. The current plan is to demolish the old Civil Courts Building next year.

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 05:52 PM

Crane is up guess we should see progress real soon.

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 09:08 PM

There's already a deep hole in the ground. I was down there at TCC on September 15th, so I did take a look across the street.

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Posted 25 September 2012 - 09:31 AM

I understood that the "angels" attached to the westside annex to the old courthouse would be removed and attached to the new civil courts building. Also the annex would be demolished. Is this correct? Anyone know the sequential time table for all this?

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Posted 25 September 2012 - 09:54 AM

I understood that the "angels" attached to the westside annex to the old courthouse would be removed and attached to the new civil courts building. Is this correct?

Yep.

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Posted 25 September 2012 - 10:41 AM

Two of the angels on the west side of the annex have already been removed. They came down perfectly and are in storage. The ones on the east side of the building are still in place. The two angels are shown in the rendering in the post above, so they will be installed on the new building. They were going to remove all four and save two of them for parts or replacing damaged stone, but they came down so nicely, it was decided they didn't need the other two for repairs.

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 05:33 PM

-An eyesore is being demolished and being replaced with something better.
-A parking lot is being removed.
-A new building is being built in the parking lots place.
-Something cool and historic is being saved and reused.

win win win win?
I see there's a new crane up for it, when did that go up? Downtown looks pretty crowded with it's 4 cranes now!

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 07:31 PM

I hope that the powers that be decide to go ahead and save the remaining angels... just in case

There might be some future project where we wish we had them, maybe a memorial of some kind, maybe as a replacement for the stupid-looking eastside "welcome" sign proposed using art funds, for use on the facade of the horse arena that looks like it will be built by the city even though the current council has no clue what it might look like, or on a new museum (The Byrd Williams Photographic Collection, the Texas Regional Smithsonian unit, an aviation museum - wings, get it?) Who knows what the future might bring.

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 07:21 PM

From the top of a Tarrant County Garage I took this shot tonight of the construction of the new Civil Courts building.

I took some pre construction photos to start a thread on this about 8 months ago but cannot find it. (Wanting to keep all on one thread.) Oh well.

The angels from the old courts building. No big deal to me. If they could be moved for 20k take them. If not, crush them in the debris. This new building is going to be fabulous. Too fabulous for my tax money.

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 08:38 PM

Brian, your talents never cease to amaze me. Even though this is a construction shot, the quality is excellent.

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 09:23 PM

I guess there's some illusion that's making the crane look crooked.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 06:35 AM

I guess there's some illusion that's making the crane look crooked.


Was using a 17mm lens. A very wide angle lens Will always make some wierd distortion. (Perspective distortion) But a necessary evil. No standard lens could get that whole image without renting a helicopter. (If I back up a block to get the whole image there would be a building or two in the way.)
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Posted 04 October 2012 - 07:30 AM

I hope that the powers that be decide to go ahead and save the remaining angels... just in case

There might be some future project where we wish we had them, maybe a memorial of some kind, maybe as a replacement for the stupid-looking eastside "welcome" sign proposed using art funds, for use on the facade of the horse arena that looks like it will be built by the city even though the current council has no clue what it might look like, or on a new museum (The Byrd Williams Photographic Collection, the Texas Regional Smithsonian unit, an aviation museum - wings, get it?) Who knows what the future might bring.


One of the family trips this summer was to St. Louis. We visited a fantastic institution called City Musueum. It's hard to describe other than to say it's a really big playground for young and old that's built in an old shoe factory building (and spills outside). The third floor, though, has a permanent collection of architectural arifacts, mostly from Chicago. Columns, reliefs, gargoyles, and so on. Have planned to post a few grainy pictures of the architectural displays. My first thought when I saw it was how nice it would be to have a display of pieces from Fort Worth's lost buildings. Something like those angels would be an impressive part of an exhibit.

Of course, from the county's perpective, there's a cost involved in saving them and someone would have to store them. Without someone being willing to fund that, they probably won't be saved. :(

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 08:07 AM

You raise some valid points about the cost of saving and storing the angels. Here is another issue about storing building artifacts. The Aztec Indians from the entrance of the Aviation Building (later Trans-American Life) were removed by the AIA in 1978. TCU agreed to store them for the organization. Somehow, over the years, the pieces of the entry that were saved disappeared. To this date, no one knows where they are. Did they get thrown away? Are they in the hands of a private art collector here in Fort Worth? Or are they in another city?

The Roman Warrior heads that used to be on the base of the Farmers & Mechanics National Bank eventually ended up in a private collector's possession.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 05:50 PM

My first thought was the City Museum as well! Awesome place.

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 08:11 PM

I was out walking tonight and saw them delivering concrete. In the dark. Ran up the parking garage steps for a quick shot. Pretty dark but if you look closely you can see 25 men working. (Don't count them...)

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 09:25 PM

Wow this looks like a huge project. The whole area north of the Bass towers is getting filled up real nicely.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 06:11 AM

Went over to take a look at the contruction progress yesterday. 

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:54 PM

These pictures are so cool because you can see things you will probably never see the same way again, like the garage ramp. This might make a pretty great nice little impact on the skyline from the north.
Who's is the architect(s)?



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Posted 12 January 2013 - 03:12 PM

The architects are HKS and HOK. 



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Posted 12 January 2013 - 05:31 PM

The architects are HKS and HOK. 


Oh yeah! 

Hopefully, I can work with HKS sometime soon. 


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Posted 15 January 2013 - 09:04 AM

I was driving by this project the other day, and at sidewalk level there is a sign saying "no photography, no video" etc. Glad you see you guys are breaking the rules.



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Posted 15 January 2013 - 10:45 AM

How are they possibly going to enforce that? No photography from a public sidewalk? What about from a downtown residential high-rise? Who is making these stupid "rules", for what possible reason, and who is going to enforce them?



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Posted 15 January 2013 - 11:47 AM

^I drove by after class wondering the same, the sign says "No photography or video on site" or something similar.



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Posted 15 January 2013 - 01:19 PM

I don't think anyone here is knowingly breaking that rule, especially since none of the shots are from ground level.  It's entirely possible to drive or walk into that garage without seeing the signs on Weatherford.  I'm guessing it's a security issue.  There's probably one reason or another to not want to expose the lower infrastructure of the building that won't be visible upon completion.



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Posted 15 January 2013 - 01:30 PM

... I'm guessing it's a security issue......

 

or could be they are securing the green beans and carrots.



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Posted 15 January 2013 - 02:34 PM

  :swg:



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Posted 17 February 2013 - 02:23 AM

First floor fully framed, 2nd floor about halfway. You can really see the curve, I think it's a neat way to face both the TCC plaza and the original Courthouse. Like a little mall. 
 
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Posted 04 March 2013 - 07:41 PM

It's grown another floor since the above picture. The TCC plaza has an interesting view now, of this new building, the family law, the Original Courthouse, and north towards the bluff.
 
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Posted 04 March 2013 - 08:33 PM

Thank God they're FINALLY demolishing that old Civil Courts Bldg. I took pics... can't post them, but it does my heart good to see it go.


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Posted 05 March 2013 - 11:14 AM

Ten years ago I walked around this part of downtown...quite an undeveloped and, in some places, dilapidated area. And of course the parking lots.  Now the FWDT northside is undergoing a modern urbanized transformation.  More so in the distant future when the upper Trinity area is developed.  



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Posted 11 March 2013 - 09:24 PM

A shot of the construction that I took last week:

 

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 07:18 AM

I had some free time on Friday afternoon so I drove around DTFW and surrounding areas just to check on things.  It really is remarkable how much things have changed.  I didn't realize how many more units had been built on the South end Samuels Ave.  And soon there will basically be either something new and shiny or old and grand on nearly every block between there and the courthouse.  It's pretty easy to imagine redevelopment of the remaining blocks between Belknap and Weatherford in the not too distant future.



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Posted 14 April 2013 - 08:27 PM

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Posted 14 April 2013 - 10:33 PM

 

It's grown another floor since the above picture. The TCC plaza has an interesting view now, of this new building, the family law, the Original Courthouse, and north towards the bluff.
 
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Hmm... That'll be an interesting view from the plaza. 


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Posted 17 April 2013 - 02:39 PM

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 06:51 PM

Is that a cubist periscope from the world's ugliest submarine in the foreground?  You could only describe the style as slatternly...  ..


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Posted 17 April 2013 - 10:52 PM

Is that a cubist periscope from the world's ugliest submarine in the foreground?  You could only describe the style as slatternly...  ..

I really don't get the hate for the East Campus design.... 


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Posted 18 April 2013 - 07:36 AM

Ditto here.  I think as the greenery matures and softens the overall look the whole place will stand out less.  It's grown on me.



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Posted 18 April 2013 - 12:25 PM

No "hate" at all.  Embarrassed by the pitiful design might be a better phrase..

 

IMHO it is just an unfortunate, mindless design placed in a spot that should either have had something really good on it or which should have probably been left alone. Short of demolition, the only saving grace would be a thick covering of vines that obscured the horror. I realize that this perception is mine alone, although a number of people seem to share it.

 

 

The exterior of the Modern is also shameful in my opinion and would be more suitable as a car dealership or a big box store.  This has nothing to do with tagging a building or structure as modern, classical, contemporary, traditional, retro, etc. 


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Posted 18 April 2013 - 01:08 PM

I am going to have to disagree about the Modern - I think the Modern's exterior is absolutely stunning.  It is by a wide margin my favorite museum design in Dallas/Fort Worth.

 

TCC...not so much.  It's not as awful as I expected it to be, but I am not a huge fan.  So I suppose my overall reaction is "meh."


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Posted 18 April 2013 - 02:27 PM

I am going to have to disagree about the Modern - I think the Modern's exterior is absolutely stunning.  It is by a wide margin my favorite museum design in Dallas/Fort Worth.

 

TCC...not so much.  It's not as awful as I expected it to be, but I am not a huge fan.  So I suppose my overall reaction is "meh."

 

I think if TCC had gone with the same feel as the Modern I'd like it better. I love the Modern's look.



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Posted 18 April 2013 - 02:59 PM

I like the finished product much more than what it looked like in renderings or under construction.  The whole complex leaves a bad taste in my mouth because of the horrendous financial mess that went into its construction.  I think it would be harder to find a bigger boondoggle in the country from the last 15 years and the college district got a free pass from the local media and, in turn, its constituents.



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Posted 18 April 2013 - 04:48 PM

I love the looks and feel of TCC. I wasn't really around the forums during it's construction and the financial issues, but as an urban college campus I think it is very pretty.



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Posted 18 April 2013 - 08:57 PM

That TCC building looks out of place in its surroundings. It would probably look better next to other modern buildings (though I'm not crazy about modern to begin with).


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