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#1 jefffwd

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Posted 06 October 2011 - 12:36 PM

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 12:37 AM

It's a minefield out there, and the people at TCU know that. The Big XII almost had to go raiding in order to avoid disintegrating. The Big East is in a similar quandary, but has done nothing since adding TCU to solidify itself, and may now suffer the consequences.

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 03:26 PM

I think it's the best move that TCU had available and probably the best move that the Big 12 had available. It's hard to tell what that will look like in 5 - 10 years. At the end of the day, it will all come down to what Deloss Dodds decides is in UT's best interests. Nothing else will really factor into the decision.

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Posted 30 June 2016 - 03:54 PM

This report  makes me angry and disappointed with the City of San Antonio, The Alamo Bowl and Bexar County.

 

These entities want teams to come to San Antonio; want the teams to bring supportive and opposing fans; want the fans to eat and drink in the city's restaurants and bars; and require the teams to stay in an area surrounded and accessible by fans that are drinking excessively and that often become unrestrained and rude because of alcohol.  Unfortunately, but predictably, the student athletes get caught up in this mixture.  So what does the San Antonio, the Alamo Bowl and Bexar Count do? 

 

Their answer is:   Overzealous Prosecution.

 

Shame on the player, but greater shame on San Antonio, the Alamo Bowl and Bexar County!

 

http://www.fortworth...b92eefef05.html



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Posted 30 June 2016 - 04:01 PM

I have a hard time blaming anyone other than Boykin for this. A couple of hundred other players in town for the game managed to get through that atmosphere without getting in trouble. Not only that, wasn't he out after curfew? I get that he's probably paid his dues, but prosecution goes with getting arrested much of the time. If he was let off the hook, we would hear a lot more people upset that he was because he's an athlete.

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Posted 30 June 2016 - 05:28 PM

FYI - according to The Ticket, the case has been settled.  He plead no contest to a misdemeanor and received a year of probation, a $1500 fine, and has to attend alcohol awareness classes and perform community service.  A slap on the wrist.  His pro career, whatever one he might have, isn't in jeopardy.  He's a choir boy by NFL standards.



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Posted 30 June 2016 - 08:08 PM

FYI - according to The Ticket, the case has been settled.  He plead no contest to a misdemeanor and received a year of probation, a $1500 fine, and has to attend alcohol awareness classes and perform community service.  A slap on the wrist.  His pro career, whatever one he might have, isn't in jeopardy.  He's a choir boy by NFL standards.

 

And what about the drunken fan who was obnoxious and who believed that he had the right to be rude towards another person simply because that person is either an athlete or a member of the opposing team? Did this person or persons received comparable punishment.

 

Cities and bowl organizers share a large amount of the blame for encouraging visitors to spend freely on alcohol and as a result,  to act unruly.  I think you are being way too lenient on that kind of person.

 

Please read and then determine for yourself whether or not he deserved this.

 

http://www.mysananto...r-s-8334380.php



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Posted 30 June 2016 - 09:06 PM

I have no idea what happened to the heckler, but Boykin was charged with assaulting a police officer according to the story you linked.  Yes, he broke the law, got caught, and got what he deserved.  I made no comment on the heckler, so I'm not real sure how you reached the conclusion that I'm being lenient.



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Posted 30 June 2016 - 10:08 PM

I have no idea what happened to the heckler, but Boykin was charged with assaulting a police officer according to the story you linked.  Yes, he broke the law, got caught, and got what he deserved.  I made no comment on the heckler, so I'm not real sure how you reached the conclusion that I'm being lenient.

 

Blame should be passed around; and simply excusing the "heckler" because one has no idea what happened sounds lenient to me as well as being pre judgemental regardless of not knowing or taking in account of mitigating circumstances. 

 

We probably have all witnessed a someone delivering an unseen sucker punch where the victim gets penalized for retaliating.

 

I stand by my conclusion.



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Posted 01 July 2016 - 03:37 AM

Please quote the part of any of my posts where I've said that the person heckling Boykin wasn't wrong. I wasn't there that night and I've never read why he was arrested and the instigator wasn't. The other person getting away doesn't change the fact that Boykin assaulted a police officer.

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Posted 01 July 2016 - 07:27 AM

Please quote the part of any of my posts where I've said that the person heckling Boykin wasn't wrong. I wasn't there that night and I've never read why he was arrested and the instigator wasn't. The other person getting away doesn't change the fact that Boykin assaulted a police officer.

 

A. By omission, you were lenient or dismissive of mitigating circumstances:

 

 I made no comment on the heckler, so I'm not real sure how you reached the conclusion that I'm being lenient.

 

 

B. Pre judgemental

 

I have a hard time blaming anyone other than Boykin for this.....

 

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Posted 01 July 2016 - 08:22 AM

This is going nowhere. Troll someone else. I'm not omitting anything. I'm saying I don't know. I thought I made it clear that the instigator was wrong as well, but that wouldn't fit into your trolling routine. Shame on me for falling for it.

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Posted 01 July 2016 - 08:23 AM

Kohlhausen is the real winner here. 



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Posted 01 July 2016 - 08:26 AM

Maybe he was the heckler!

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Posted 01 July 2016 - 08:39 AM

This is going nowhere. Troll someone else. I'm not omitting anything. I'm saying I don't know. I thought I made it clear that the instigator was wrong as well, but that wouldn't fit into your trolling routine. Shame on me for falling for it.

 

 It may have been in your "thoughts" but exactly where or when is there a statement from you assigning some of the blame to anyone other than Boykin?

 

 Read your posts.



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Posted 01 July 2016 - 08:47 AM

Please quote the part of any of my posts where I've said that the person heckling Boykin wasn't wrong.


While not crystal clear, someone with the reasoning skills of a toddler could probably read a great deal into this statement.

This is part of college football's huge problem right now. Trying to find someone else to blame for why athletes are breaking the law. Baylor made it part of their culture (and they're far from the only ones doing it).

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Posted 01 July 2016 - 09:02 AM

 

Please quote the part of any of my posts where I've said that the person heckling Boykin wasn't wrong.


While not crystal clear, someone with the reasoning skills of a toddler could probably read a great deal into this statement.

This is part of college football's huge problem right now. Trying to find someone else to blame for why athletes are breaking the law. Baylor made it part of their culture (and they're far from the only ones doing it).

 

 

 "While not crystal clear..."  hmmmm! :wacko:

 

 Wouldn't a reasonable person withhold pre judgement and refrain from publicly condemning someone before knowing all of the facts?

 

P.S.  Could there be such a thing as a "trolling toddler"? :swg:

 

BTW, there is one thing for you to be reminded of,  as you sink into the quicksand, is that the blame has and is certainly been shared from top to bottom at Baylor. 



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Posted 01 July 2016 - 09:08 AM

Blame for the scandal, yes. I was referring to the idea that women were blamed for their own sexual assaults.

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Posted 01 July 2016 - 09:12 AM

Blame for the scandal, yes. I was referring to the idea that women were blamed for their own sexual assaults.

 

Completely under quicksand.  Where else will this lead?



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Posted 01 July 2016 - 09:22 AM

Nowhere. I'm done.

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Posted 04 July 2016 - 11:03 AM

Don't know why this was brought back up (or what it has to do with TCU being in the Big XII), but it makes no difference... this is over. 


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Posted 05 July 2016 - 11:22 AM

Don't know why this was brought back up (or what it has to do with TCU being in the Big XII), but it makes no difference... this is over. 

 

 To avoid creating yet another folder, this seemed like the best place to blog on this particular subject.

 

  As for its resonance, the subject matter can be viewed through multiple lenses.

 

  Agreed, it is over but the greater socioeconomic issues at play are not to be mistook.






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