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#1 Brian Luenser

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 04:55 PM

I don't really like Sports. (I blame Sports for ruining our Country.) But I do like visitors to our town. Full hotels and restaraunts... Can't beat it. Particularly with the extra taxes on hotels and car rentals. These visitors can pump a bunch of money in our area quick. Of course Tarrant Co. put up some of the money for the improvements for the stadium in anticipation of tons of visitors. Nice to see some return. (And yes I remember the Super Bowl crowds. Even in the coldest week in years.)

Wife and I went to Corner Bakery for lunch. Really surprised by the number of Oregon and LSU fans around town. (I think the 3 fancy buses we saw leaving the Worthington were probably one of the Teams. I think LSU.)

Good time to be out on the town, be friendly and pick up any litter. We want these people to go home loving our Town.
Though I read it in the Star Telegram, I have my own little indicator as to how filled up our town is with guests. Hotel rooms illuminated. I could see all the hotels were packed last night. Greatful for the Omni here. Big deal. Huge. I do bet they wish they would have had a few more floors of hotels and a few less floors of condos. The hotel is frequently packed. Most condos still unsold. One of them has my name on it :) I love that place.

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Saw several cabs with this sign on the roof parked at the Blackstone. (At 2pm, I am guessing they were ready to get fans to Arlington.)
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Posted 04 September 2011 - 12:48 AM

The tourism generated by out of town college fans that Brian referenced is just what I needed to be able to opine about the current college football news in the headlines recently. Fort Worth and Tarrant County stand to reap similar windfalls in tourism annually, if as I hope, the stars align just right.

A&M has started a domino effect in conference realignment by announcing that it will leave the Big XII for what it hopes will be membership in the Southeast Conference. This may be a golden opportunity for two Texas based colleges and Oklahoma's two major colleges to join the Pacific XII. Tech will be certainly one of the two Texas colleges; and the other can and should be TCU.

From all indications, A&M does not desire now or in the future to be in a conference that includes UT; and the feelings appear mutual. UT also has a lucrative network deal has decided that it can more or less go forward as an independent, if need be , following a similar model like that of Notre Dame and its NBC contract. Coming as far as things have recently, it seems that negotiating with UT will be difficult.

The next best option would be either TCU or U of Houston. UH however is not as far along in updating its facilities as is TCU. Add too that the Houston region is a strong A&M market that will likely favor the Southeast Conference over the Pacific XII. Then too, TCU is more easily reachable than either Lubbock or Houston; a critical factor. And too TCU could arguably bring in as much or better an audience than either Tech or UH in the DFW.

The bottom line, I am seeing and now hoping that the stars are aligning for TCU and Fort Worth to share in a tremendous annual economic windfall should it be asked to and then join the Pacific XII Conference.

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Posted 04 September 2011 - 01:58 PM

This area is poised to explode once we clear ourselves of this anemic economy. We've not escaped totally unscathed but we have fared better than most and the influx of sports fans, regardless of the sport, only helps spread the word that regardless of our freakishly cold and ungodly hot spells this place is a great place to be whether you're just visiting or a new job transplant.

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Posted 04 September 2011 - 02:14 PM

I second this weekend's crowd. I was up there on family business and couldn't find a hotel room downtown. I had to stay near Hulen Mall. In any case, glad to see hordes of people enjoying Fort Worth.

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Posted 04 September 2011 - 06:29 PM

I second this weekend's crowd. I was up there on family business and couldn't find a hotel room downtown. I had to stay near Hulen Mall. In any case, glad to see hordes of people enjoying Fort Worth.


Hey Ramjet,
What are they saying in Austin about the A&M decision; Am I far off the mark that UT is seriously considering becoming an independent rather than joining another conference?

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Posted 04 September 2011 - 07:06 PM


I second this weekend's crowd. I was up there on family business and couldn't find a hotel room downtown. I had to stay near Hulen Mall. In any case, glad to see hordes of people enjoying Fort Worth.


Hey Ramjet,
What are they saying in Austin about the A&M decision; Am I far off the mark that UT is seriously considering becoming an independent rather than joining another conference?

Keep Fort Worth folksy


I'm not Ramjet, but I'm following this conference stuff pretty closely. UT is not prepared to go independent yet. I think that's their ultimate goal, but the timing isn't right. They want to hold the Big12 together, but I think OU is done with it and is going to force UT's hand. I believe it will be OU, OSU, UT and Tech to the PAC.

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Posted 04 September 2011 - 08:31 PM

The bottom line, I am seeing and now hoping that the stars are aligning for TCU and Fort Worth to share in a tremendous annual economic windfall should it be asked to and then join the Pacific XII Conference.


Okay, nice post that would have been a lot more fun 12 months ago. Either you're not aware of TCU accepting an invitation to join the Big East or you're ignoring it to make your Pac 16 sales pitch sound better.

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Posted 04 September 2011 - 10:53 PM


The bottom line, I am seeing and now hoping that the stars are aligning for TCU and Fort Worth to share in a tremendous annual economic windfall should it be asked to and then join the Pacific XII Conference.

Okay, nice post that would have been a lot more fun 12 months ago. Either you're not aware of TCU accepting an invitation to join the Big East or you're ignoring it to make your Pac 16 sales pitch sound better.


Yes, I am very aware that TCU is to join the Big East in 2012 and can even name the other eight schools in the Big East that play college football for you if you wish me to; but to the point at hand.

A&M has caused a ripple affect, as you may or may not know, to reverberate across the entire college football landscape. If A&M were to join the Southeast Conference (SEC), it would be as the 13th member, an odd and unworkable number since 14 or 16 members has been determined to be most advantageous size of a conference. The SEC will then have to add at least one or three additional members, a fact which cause even more dilemma. This is also why the Pac 12 is opting for the two schools in OK and two from TX and avoiding the messy situation of adding one member at a time. The Pac 12 ultimately desires to become the Pac 16 and capture in one sweep both TX and CA in one huge market.

Consider these circumstances and you may see why my pitch may stand a good chance of becoming reality:
(1) The Pac 12 wants two Texas based teams; probably Tech, no problem and one other.
(2) Bitter A&M v. UT like in-state rivalries are more common than they are rare; ex. (FL,GA,SC) these civil wars will likely make the SEC expansion targets schools outside and to the east of its region (VA, NC, WV); this would mean ciphering off one or maybe two Big East members, and as such, effectively killing off Big East football.
(3) UT, rightly or wrongly, has a public relations problem. Original Pac 12 member have no love for UT; and new Pac 12 member CO is not favorable to having UT again as a fellow member; having just bolted from the Big XII citing UT control of the conference as being divisive. This will be a hurdle for UT to overcome.
(4) UT rightly believes that it can be the next Notre Dame. UT can be independent, rich and successful by itself. This will also be a hurdle for UT to overcome, its own ego.
(5) See #1, #3, #4; now TCU becomes more attractive to the Pac 12 and also fits the "one other" category. Coincidentally, the large TCU contingency and its hefty spending was very well received by both the 2011 Rose Bowl organizers and noted by Pac 12 officials in Los Angeles.
(6) Lastly, in a radio interview Friday 9/2/11, TCU's Chris Del Conte, AD said that TCU was glad to be a member of the Big East, but that the A&M decision had created the potential for new realignments that are yet to play out completely; and that TCU will be prepared for opportunities yet to come if presented. He cited as evidence, TCU's greatly improved facilities and the commitment of its donors to do what is necessary in the best interest of TCU.

The past 12 months have been fun and, the next 3-6 month, will be even more fun as things are sorted out once again thanks to A&M. And if my TCU scenario, as in visionary as it may seem, comes to fruition, there will be a lot of fun coming to Fort Worth businesses too.

Keep Fort Worth folksy.

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Posted 05 September 2011 - 05:25 PM

I will put my ear to the ground about the A&M defection thang. All I'm hearing now in Austin is how happy everyone is that UT beat lil' ole' Rice. (Really American-Statesman, 12 pages!) You'd think it was the national championship! After UT's last season, I'm thinking some shreds of post traumatic stress syndrome. I'd hate to be Mack Brown these days. No pressure, right! BTW, I graduated from Baylor but have always been a TCU fan (even when they weren't cool). I was conflicted this weekend. So I drank martinis...

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Posted 06 September 2011 - 12:16 PM

Sorry to stay off-topic, but I agree "Big 12 - 3" is dead. Only possible way to salvage is to convince Arkansas and TCU to come aboard, then find a suitable 12th school. Not likely, however, Arkansas has made public its sadness in not developing a true SEC rivalry that comes close to its old UT rivalry. An OU - Arkansas rivalry would develop pretty quick, also. I still think the way of the future is with 3 or 4 sixteen school super-conferences. A PAC/SW 16 would bring an incredible TV audience. Sure, there will have to be compromises from Texas, but it simply makes too much sense and there's too much money. If the PAC thought bringing in Utah and Colorado was a good idea, it would have to drool over bringing in OU, UT, Tech and OSU. PAC has always suffered from a lack of credibility in the rest of the county (deserved or not) due to its lack of real depth. Adding those 4 Big 12 schools equals instant credibility (provided USC, UCLA and Oregon can win some of those games). Let the Big 10, SEC, Big East, etc. dig through the left-overs to round out their 16 team conferences.

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Posted 06 September 2011 - 03:00 PM

I don't really like Sports. (I blame Sports for ruining our Country.) But I do like visitors to our town. Full hotels and restaraunts... Can't beat it. Particularly with the extra taxes on hotels and car rentals. These visitors can pump a bunch of money in our area quick. Of course Tarrant Co. put up some of the money for the improvements for the stadium in anticipation of tons of visitors. Nice to see some return. (And yes I remember the Super Bowl crowds. Even in the coldest week in years.)

Wife and I went to Corner Bakery for lunch. Really surprised by the number of Oregon and LSU fans around town. (I think the 3 fancy buses we saw leaving the Worthington were probably one of the Teams. I think LSU.)

Good time to be out on the town, be friendly and pick up any litter. We want these people to go home loving our Town.
Though I read it in the Star Telegram, I have my own little indicator as to how filled up our town is with guests. Hotel rooms illuminated. I could see all the hotels were packed last night. Greatful for the Omni here. Big deal. Huge. I do bet they wish they would have had a few more floors of hotels and a few less floors of condos. The hotel is frequently packed. Most condos still unsold. One of them has my name on it :) I love that place.

I know you hate sports and live in Texas, but the reason our country is in decline has nothing to do with sports. I am not a big sports guy, except football, but I know a ridiculous post when I see one.

We cannot all be happy with empty resturants with hush tones and eating salads at 7pm as a the optimum scene for Fort Worth.

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Posted 06 September 2011 - 04:22 PM


I don't really like Sports. (I blame Sports for ruining our Country.)

I know you hate sports and live in Texas, ...


Brian,

I was a little surprised and confused by this comment as well. it sounds like you may have explained yourself in the past, but I would love a quick run down on how sports ruined the country?

I'm truly curious, not discrediting your point of view.

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Posted 18 September 2011 - 12:21 AM

... A PAC/SW 16 would bring an incredible TV audience. Sure, there will have to be compromises from Texas, but it simply makes too much sense and there's too much money. If the PAC thought bringing in Utah and Colorado was a good idea, it would have to drool over bringing in OU, UT, Tech and OSU.


Agreed, an incredible TV audience, but -

Earlier, I posted that the decision of A&M to depart the Big XII for the Southeast Conference would shake up college football alignments everywhere; and that this may be good for both TCU and Fort Worth. I don't have any inside information, but a scenario to my liking now seems possible:

On Saturday, the newswire are now reporting the breaking news that the Big East is poised to lose two teams to another conference. If this is true, this will likely force TCU to make yet another conference alignment decision: Whether to join the Big East next season as planned or to petition for admission to the PAC XII along with OKLA and OKLA ST. TCU has a valid argument that it can do as well or better than TECH in delivering to the PAC XII the state's premier and most coveted market "Fort Worth/Dallas". As long as TECH continues to tie its fortunes with UT, TCU and Fort Worth have a good chance.

And here is where I disagree with you. The PAC may not be drooling over UT as conventional wisdom might suggest; and you believe. You can believe though that colleges and conferences across the nation are watching the drama that UT may or may not be responsible for because of its exclusive network, its perceived image of not wanting to be an equal among its members. What conference will want to tolerate this attitude. To other teams, the drama is something that they would surely want to avoid and will not tolerate.

And as for TECH; as long as TECH continues to tie its fortunes with UT, TCU have a chance to be that "No Drama" Texas team which is squarely within the Texas market; and which is all the better for Fort Worth, tourism and the local economy.

Below is the link to the breaking news about various conference shake ups:

http://www.star-tele...-caught-in.html


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Posted 18 September 2011 - 08:59 AM



I don't really like Sports. (I blame Sports for ruining our Country.)

I know you hate sports and live in Texas, ...


Brian,

I was a little surprised and confused by this comment as well. it sounds like you may have explained yourself in the past, but I would love a quick run down on how sports ruined the country?

I'm truly curious, not discrediting your point of view.



I do believe sports has ruined our Country.
While our teenagers are out shooting hoops, the Asians are home doing their math homework. Kids, particularly from less educated households, are not able to understand they will not be able to play professional sports for a living. (At least no more likely than that crap scratch off card from 7-11 is likely to give them a million dollars.) Your kid is not going to be a sports pro. That is the message that we need to be telling kids. Particularly those with inadequate or missing parents. The message, "You can be whatever you want to be" is maybe the stupidest, most destructive, inaccurate message we have ever propagated. You cannot be what ever you want to be. We cannot all be President of the United States. We can not all be doctors or scientists either. Some people are smarter than others. And not just because they go to better schools or have caring parents or teachers. Some people are taller or stronger or better looking. Life is not at all equatable. Lying to our kids does not change that equation. I work with some new Ex-Dell guys now that are like 200 times smarter than I am. And I came from a middle class home (father electrical engineer, stay home caring mother) that encouraged learning and education. But these guys have horsepower upstairs I have never been personally exposed to. Wizards. Geniuses. They were born that way. I was born with an average (at best) brain, and they were born with superior brains. Just a cruel fact of life. Lucky for us all, however, that there is a mix of at least some very smart people that can bring us integrated circuits and brain surgery. I am not as smart as these guys. That does not make me useless. I have a role in life. I do accounting, and I do it well enough. You have to play the card you drew. Just about anybody can work with the abilities they were given. Somebody has to pick radishes. Somebody has to figure out how my smart phone picks the cleanest signal.

To get to the point, our Country is heading down the wrong road. In many areas. But none more damaging than sports. A completely meaningless past-time that only makes our air dirty by people driving back and forth to games and kids sports practices. It takes valuable resources away from schools and cities. Universities of learning have become primarily sports outfits. The University of Michigan. When I say that, you think of sports. You shouldn't. You should be thinking of Math and Science programs that have particular merits. Notre Dame. TCU. Again, you are thinking of sweaty guys that are semi-literate hitting each other on a field. Tragic.

Somebody will make a point that sports is big business and good for the economy. A pretty silly argument. Of course there are benefits to local economies when you score a big game. But don't think the the $100. I was going to spend on that sports game is going to get shredded if I don't go to the game. I was going to use that money to buy lunches for my kids at school so you and my other neighbors did not have to feed my kids. Or I was going to buy a new chair for my dining room. Or whatever. It will get spent.

Sports is an incredible waste of time, money and human beings that could have contributed something meaningful to society. Your boy did not play in the pros. "I did not think he needed to study or learn a trade as he was going to make millions of dollars a year playing sports." Now he is unemployed or selling crack, or delivering circulars to doorknobs. He could have learned welding. Or he could be a master plumber. Or an engineer.

Some decades ago, girls in high school used to flock to smart guys. They looked like they were going to set somebody up in a good family with money for nutritious food and a house in a safe neighborhood. Now girls are more attracted to sports figures. Guys going nowhere. (I understand I am not a girl in high school and I am only guessing at this from what I see and hear.) A full fledged tragedy... will only perpetuate ignorance and make our Country even less competitive in the world marketplace.

Great sports figures are not heroes. Maybe the opposite if anything. People that design more efficient aircraft are heroes. People that figure out a better way to make our water safe are heroes. People that fight crime are heroes. People that teach kids from bad and broken homes are heroes. People that make a building withstand earthquakes are heroes.

I believe we start fixing our very broken Country by ending sports in High School and College. Let's put the emphasis on learning and education. Give the taxpayers what they are paying for. Let's send our kids out in the workplace ready to compete with the kids from India. Let's think about education when we name colleges. Let's get elementary school gym classes to focus on heath and exercise, not sports. (A softball game would not kill them in 4th grade) Teach them to run and swim and ride bikes. Not to ruin their bodies playing stupid sports. (I know you know several guys with new knees like I do. Sports.)

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Posted 18 September 2011 - 12:09 PM

Brian,

Pssst...(speaking in a very low whisper) I'm with you on this one, Brian. I wanted to see the national news yesterday but ABC, CBS, and NBC all had Football games going that pre-empted things like world news. Just a fact of life. Having said that, talking against sports anywhere in Texas is about like giving a passionately pro-Obama speech at a Tea Party rally. Glad you live way up on the umpteenth floor, otherwise some of these rabid sports fans would likely pelt your place with eggs and rotten tomatoes. Football/Baseball/Basketball may not have been invented in Texas but could just as well have been. My dad was an award-winning "jock" in high school and in his 80's is still a rabid sports fan, same with my elderly mother...just too set in their ways to change that and I wouldn't try even if I could. My advice for what its worth: do what I've done for many years...when anyone asks you about sports or a specific game, emphatically and loudly shout:"How 'bout them Cowboys!!!???" and let the others impress you with their sports knowledge. Like it or not, we're in a very, very, tiny minority here. Best to keep that in mind before going off on sports. Oddly, despite my low esteem of sports, I must confess having had some interest in pro wrestling and even went to Dallas a few times to watch the Von Erichs do their stuff; if the Cowboys made it to the Superbowl it would be downright unpatriotic not to watch the game. Wishing you the best in this dangerous discussion but keep in mind where you live...sports are a religion for a lot of people around these parts. As we all know, one should never criticize another's "religion".

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 11:24 AM

I agree that Americans place too much emphasis on high school and college athletics in terms of money and commercialism. Devoting greater financial resources to scholastics itself is probably a more worthy objective. But athletics is a fairly healthy and peaceful form of physical and mental competition. Yes, some sports are physically violent. But shouldn’t young people be “sowing their wild oats” by playing football or baseball rather than marching, to injury and possible death, on battlefields (which, of course, has been the past-time of nations since the dawn of mankind)? And, sports competition is endemic to our country’s cultural characteristics—individual initiative and aggressiveness channeled through teamsmanship. That's the American way.

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 01:05 PM

For my 2 cents, I have zero interest in footbal, baseball or basketball, but am passionate about my hockey and drag racing (I know, the 2 least watched activities out there - even below soccer and bowling!), so I do understand the passion people have for "their sport".

With that said, I also agree with Brian, in that the emphasis put on sports over academics in this country's high schools and colleges is troubling to say the least. When "students" (aka meat slabs) are passed in class after class due to pressure from a sports program, well, there's just something basic wrong with the system.

There are many other things runing this country, including the missing parents that Brian mentions, so I don't know that all the blame can be put on sports - they do have some redeeming qualities if they were treated for what they are - extracurricular activities.

BTW, I'm talking East Coast hockey - not this west of the Mississippi crap! :roflol:
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Posted 21 September 2011 - 08:31 PM

I do believe sports has ruined our Country.
While our teenagers are out shooting hoops, the Asians are home doing their math homework. Kids, particularly from less educated households, are not able to understand they will not be able to play professional sports for a living. (At least no more likely than that crap scratch off card from 7-11 is likely to give them a million dollars.) Your kid is not going to be a sports pro. That is the message that we need to be telling kids. Particularly those with inadequate or missing parents. The message, "You can be whatever you want to be" is maybe the stupidest, most destructive, inaccurate message we have ever propagated. You cannot be what ever you want to be. We cannot all be President of the United States.


Statements like these might be more credible if there was not such an orchestrated attack by deficit hawks upon the public education system: No to school infrastructure, vilification of teachers, and the other components of a public education system created to educate all regardless of economic status. It should be noted that the President of the United States, as well as his college professor sibling, were raised by a single parent. It was the realization that there could be a society that would not limit what and who you can become; one not based upon the peerage system that America, among others things, was founded in the 18th Century.

Sports do have its flaws, but it does introduce the participants to rules and healthy competition.

What has actually ruined our Country and done more damage exponentially than sports will ever do is the rogue actions of the unregulated, unpatriotic and shameless corporate and personal greed which our Country is still paying for today with no end in sight.

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 01:35 PM

What has actually ruined our Country and done more damage exponentially than sports will ever do is the rogue actions of the unregulated, unpatriotic and shameless corporate and personal greed which our Country is still paying for today with no end in sight.


Amen and amen. Completely agree!

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 02:30 PM

Disagree completely. It is not that the taxpayers are not paying enough to the schools though Federal and local taxes. It is so much more than throwing money at the problem. The schools have plenty of money. It is not being spent wisely.

With the money wasted on Sports we could probably have one teacher to 15 students.

Bad and missing parents. Bad influences from society. And Sports crap. There are your main problems. (I will throw in illegal immigration to the mix as well here in the South.) So many kids without parents paying any meaningful taxes.
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Posted 20 November 2013 - 01:23 AM

Sometimes I find myself in disbelief with the stewardship of the Fort Worth Visitors and Convention Bureau (FWVCB) when it comes to major events planned in North Texas.  Case in study: NCAA 2014 Final Four Tournament at AT&T Stadium. 

 

Reported:  Arlington and Dallas designated as host cities; each city to pledge $300K and $1,156K respectively; most events to be held and most hotel rooms reserved and to be booked in Dallas. Nothing pledged or reserved in Fort Worth. 

 

Yet could this be a cunning move by Fort Worth?

 

Fort Worth is generally regarded as having been a big winner during Super Bowl Week in 2011 as a host city for one of the two teams; and actually drew many fans over from the other host city.  Why? ESPN.  Now Fort Worth, though not a host city, once again has ESPN; and for the affordable pledge of $0 and has the most coveted broadcaster in American sports to do its broadcasting to the nation from Sundance Square.

 

It will be worth tabulating and comparing the returns on investment for Arlington, Dallas and Fort Worth.



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Posted 20 November 2013 - 05:09 PM

I think Fort Worth will get it share of visitors, despite what the Dallas-area (including Arlington :swg:) wants.



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Posted 20 November 2013 - 06:31 PM

Over the weekend I saw a few visitors wearing Ferrari, Redbull and McLaren gear. I wonder if the USGP in Austin brought it a few visitors.




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