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#1 John T Roberts

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Posted 21 June 2011 - 08:21 AM

The Fort Worth Star-Telegram ran an article in today's paper about the United States Post Office Building on Lancaster Avenue. The Postal Service wants to unload unneeded facilities and the City of Fort Worth was looking at purchasing the property for City Hall expansion. Now, the city doesn't have enough money to buy the building. I was interviewed for the story and I was quoted. Many of the city's historians and preservationists were included in the story by Bill Hanna.

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Posted 21 June 2011 - 01:32 PM

I stop in there several times a quarter, take pictures most of my trips, but have only been inside the main section.

I probably average 10 - 12 trips per year over the last 3 years, my last trip was the 1st time that I was the only customer in there, yet I ran into someone exiting as I entered and more patrons entered as I completed my transactions. The post office on 7th, been there maybe 6 times in the same time period, 50/50 from empty to 1 to 3 people ahead of me.

I think the building is amazing, even though I've only seen such a small portion of it, have no idea what the total square footage is. The building just seems too grand to be re-tasked as most similarly aged structures, shops, condos, restaurants and such.

First thing I see when I look at that building is a museum, maybe a Hell's Half Acre, Cowtown Museum or something, could go the other direction, Artistic, high-brow, but a museum just the same, seems too grand of a structure to just go to the highest bidder. As a museum a lot of the historical features could be preserved along with other historically important pieces of Fort Worth.

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Posted 21 June 2011 - 02:10 PM

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I share all of the concerns expressed in the S-T article. To me, the Lancaster Ave. Post Office is in the top 5 most important historic buildings in our downtown. As you and others have mentioned, it is unique and comes from an earlier era with different cultural values and economic realities. The lavish outlay used to build it would be unthinkable today. (with the possible exception of the extravagant TCC Administration/Health Sciences building) Given the unique qualities of this iconic (not an overblown expression used in this instance) building, the citizens of Fort Worth should do everything within their power to see it is preserved in as orginal a state as possible. It's very high level of intactness and original detail is just one more rare quality featured in this incredible local landmark. Given it's architecturally impressive neighbors, the Post Office building is a "must save" example so the historic integrity of this downtown area can continue. I sincerely hope this important local preservation story has a positive outcome; few downtown buildings are this architecturally and historically significant.

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Posted 21 June 2011 - 04:46 PM

Speaking of lavish outlays and extravigance- maybe they can tear it down to build a new rodeo arena?! :no:

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 09:46 AM

I make most of my postal trips to this downtown facility, as it is close to where I office. I am always impressed by the historical ornateness of the lobby interior. But I’m saddened about the wasted utility of this grand building. My fear is that the post office will close down, the building will sit vacant, become dilapidated and targeted by vandals over time. Just like the warehouse shell directly to the west.

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Posted 26 July 2011 - 09:59 AM

76102 Post Office is on the list: http://about.usps.co...tates/texas.htm

http://about.usps.co...s/statelist.htm

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Posted 26 July 2011 - 05:29 PM

76102 Post Office is on the list: http://about.usps.co...tates/texas.htm


The Star-Telegram clarifies that the 76102 post office in question is the one in the Federal Building on Taylor Street, not the one on Lancaster.
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Posted 26 July 2011 - 07:36 PM


76102 Post Office is on the list: http://about.usps.co...tates/texas.htm


The Star-Telegram clarifies that the 76102 post office in question is the one in the Federal Building on Taylor Street, not the one on Lancaster.
U.S. Postal Service might close 222 branches in Texas, including 3 in Fort Worth and 1 in Arlington

That's good news, I couldn't find the final list this morning...

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Posted 03 December 2011 - 06:48 PM

Was over on Lancaster Ave. today. Stepped into the main Post Office. What a grand building. I am always surprised at like 4pm on a Saturday afternoon you can get in there. Between e-mails, UPS and half of Postal Workers home on disability, the Postal Service in general is likely not going to make it.

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Posted 03 December 2011 - 10:02 PM

I am impressed at how well preserved it is. Is it possible to get designation for a building's interior?

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 08:57 PM

I received a survey from them recently asking how often I used that one compared to any others.

Over the last year I've been in there more and more, use to be once a year, now it's once a month or more.

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 08:53 AM

They released a list of which postal handling facilities would be shut down. One in Dallas made the list. I didn't hear anything about FtW facilities. Was that for major handling facilities only? Or post offices in general? I kind of hope this location is kept open.
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Posted 03 April 2012 - 09:03 AM

Someone told me yesterday they thought this location would be saved, but there were a couple ones very close nearby that wouldn't be. Does anyone know for sure? I'm moving down to the area in a month or so, and I need to move my office PO Box down there and wanted to move it to the old Post Office.

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Posted 03 April 2012 - 09:39 AM

There are 'signs' posted on the doors to the old P.O. on Lancaster saying that it is not affected by the closures. I don't know if that's fact, or hopeful thinking of the employees there...
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Posted 03 April 2012 - 10:35 AM

Cool. I'm going in there this week to take care of that, so I'll ask them as well. Here is to hoping!

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Posted 25 January 2014 - 12:04 AM

I believe the most recent discussions about the Post Office on Lancaster have been in a thread about possible sites for a new city hall.

 

Given that, I'll post this in this older thread.

 

How interesting would it be to convert the PO to a boutique hotel?

 

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Posted 25 January 2014 - 07:29 AM

I believe the most recent discussions about the Post Office on Lancaster have been in a thread about possible sites for a new city hall.
 
Given that, I'll post this in this older thread.
 
How interesting would it be to convert the PO to a boutique hotel?
 
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Far better thinking than a city hall.

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Posted 25 January 2014 - 11:02 AM

A hotel would work well there.

 

I think micro apartments might be a good option too, leaving the ornate main area for common areas which are necessary for that type of setup, "their PO box section of the place is done!" with a few retail options to cater to residents and visitors perhaps. The high ceiling structure would make for some interesting two story micro dwellings with living areas down and sleeping and bathrooms up.  Units in size from 200 to 600 square feet, would allow for 200 to 300 units in the 99,000 square feet.

 

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Posted 25 January 2014 - 03:56 PM

I believe the most recent discussions about the Post Office on Lancaster have been in a thread about possible sites for a new city hall.

 

Given that, I'll post this in this older thread.

 

How interesting would it be to convert the PO to a boutique hotel?

 

Travelycia: Top 15 Converted Hotels

 

Not being the final arbitrator, I would not find a conversion of our historic and most beautiful post office into a hotel of any kind interesting but rather extremely disappointing.  Can you image "Sheraton" or "Hilton" or "Comfort Suites" emblazoned across the facade of this building. 

 

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I say "No" to a reuse other than a public/municipal use. 

 

But it is quite interesting what has been done to the water tower in Colonge, Germany [photo #1]; and I think it could be done here too. I say "Yes" to the idea of converting "Old TXU" into such a hotel. 

 

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Posted 25 January 2014 - 06:09 PM

 

I believe the most recent discussions about the Post Office on Lancaster have been in a thread about possible sites for a new city hall.

 

Given that, I'll post this in this older thread.

 

How interesting would it be to convert the PO to a boutique hotel?

 

Travelycia: Top 15 Converted Hotels

 

Not being the final arbitrator, I would not find a conversion of our historic and most beautiful post office into a hotel of any kind interesting but rather extremely disappointing.  Can you image "Sheraton" or "Hilton" or "Comfort Suites" emblazoned across the facade of this building. 

 

 

The downside to having city hall move in would be the unique security needs that go along with it, as we can see in their current structure, today's security needs don't always blend well with historic buildings.  They already mentioned that “if” they chose to go that route they’d have to make some very visible changes to the structure to make it work.

 

I don’t want to see a chain hotel either but cooperation with the city and a for profit or not for profit enterprise that catered to young professionals, empty nesters or second resident types on a budget could work. Much like those little triplex and duplex apartments over on 1st.


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Posted 25 January 2014 - 07:20 PM

I saw in Austin that they are turning the "Seaholm Powerplant" ( the old Austin Energy Plant off Town Lake) into some offices which sounds pretty awesome and I think something like that would be killer!
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Posted 25 January 2014 - 08:13 PM

How about making it the HQ of the Tarrant County Bar Association ?

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Posted 26 January 2014 - 12:00 AM

Whatever happens, public access to that main hall is a must. 



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Posted 26 January 2014 - 02:42 PM

 

The downside to having city hall move in would be the unique security needs that go along with it, as we can see in their current structure, today's security needs don't always blend well with historic buildings.  They already mentioned that “if” they chose to go that route they’d have to make some very visible changes to the structure to make it work.

 

I don’t want to see a chain hotel either but cooperation with the city and a for profit or not for profit enterprise that catered to young professionals, empty nesters or second resident types on a budget could work. Much like those little triplex and duplex apartments over on 1st.

 

 

State and particularly local buildings generally have not been high level target risks, though that can change in an instance.  Trips to the courthouse and city hall nowadays seem to be no more of an inconvenience than airport security base upon my most recent trips to these buildings; and I do not think that there are unique security issues posed upon them that can not be overcome.

Should the city chooses to relocate to the post office building, I believe that a master plan that included both the post office building and that also annexed the T&P warehouse is a solution that would please a majority of citizens who have been polled at first being in favor of the post office being used for city hall; and second, who are polling in favor of a solution for the warehouse.

The silver lining in the post office “fire sale” is that it may finally force the hands of the city to save two remarkable structures for future generations in an affirmative way.
 



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Posted 26 January 2014 - 04:23 PM

Whatever happens, public access to that main hall is a must. 

 

I agree .Yes by all means must be kept public somehow. I don't know if anyone has notice. But when I do a U-Turn . I can see the backside of the building. And even the crown is just as decorated as the front and sides . Lots of tin roofing and siding covering up a lot of it. They sure don't make buildings like this anymore.



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Posted 26 January 2014 - 07:40 PM

State and particularly local buildings generally have not been high level target risks, though that can change in an instance.  Trips to the courthouse and city hall nowadays seem to be no more of an inconvenience than airport security base upon my most recent trips to these buildings; and I do not think that there are unique security issues posed upon them that can not be overcome.

 

 

Interesting that you say that when you consider that the Tarrant County Courthouse was the site of a shooting that killed 2 and injured 3.

 

Not to beat my dead horse that is swarming with flies, but any government purchase and remodel of the T&P Warehouse is a bad idea.  We need this building's full potential value on the tax rolls.   



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Posted 27 January 2014 - 07:47 AM


The downside to having city hall move in would be the unique security needs that go along with it, as we can see in their current structure, today's security needs don't always blend well with historic buildings.....

 


Interesting that you say that when you consider that the Tarrant County Courthouse was the site of a shooting that killed 2 and injured 3.

 

Addressing the issue that “historic buildings pose unique security needs” is precisely why, and remembering the shooting myself,  the Tarrant County Courthouse was cited as a building that now has security in place, yet has done so in a manner which is both comfortable and at the same time addressed its security issues regardless of any unique circumstances.

The T&P Warehouse has been and continues to be neglected by its owner.  The time may have come or is near when the damage from landlord negligence is so great that the property may face condemnation.  The optimal answer would be for the private sector to redevelop the building, but that opportunity does not seem to be on the immediate horizon.   A joint effort by  city, county, state and federal agencies working together to remodel the building and divide it among themselves for their particular needs would be a viable solution.  This would, in a way, achieve an acceptable use of the full potential of the warehouse and which, in my mind, is preferable then the state that the T&P warehouse is presently in.  
 

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Posted 28 January 2014 - 05:39 PM

 


The T&P Warehouse has been and continues to be neglected by its owner.  The time may have come or is near when the damage from landlord negligence is so great that the property may face condemnation.  The optimal answer would be for the private sector to redevelop the building, but that opportunity does not seem to be on the immediate horizon.   A joint effort by  city, county, state and federal agencies working together to remodel the building and divide it among themselves for their particular needs would be a viable solution.  This would, in a way, achieve an acceptable use of the full potential of the warehouse and which, in my mind, is preferable then the state that the T&P warehouse is presently in.  
 

 

My thoughts exactly on T&P.

 

The Post Office is going to have suitors lining up, it's figuring out how to get T&P fixed up in the process.


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Posted 28 January 2014 - 06:04 PM

 

 

 it's figuring out how to get T&P fixed up in the process.

 

Along with the rest of Lancaster. 



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Posted 28 January 2014 - 07:59 PM

Not to be a contrarian..and not directly related to the PO...  But..  Has anyone realized how pleasant it is to have all that open park-like space along the north side of Lancaster?   Other than mindlessly filling the space with commercial development aren't there other uses?  Yes, I know the land is worth gazillions.. 


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Posted 28 January 2014 - 08:10 PM

I will admit the open space is nice.  However, if you look at all of the old photographs, before the I-30 overhead, Lancaster was rather narrow.



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Posted 28 January 2014 - 08:59 PM

I see a potential transit corridor, a landscaped plaza several blocks long with rail transit running east to west along Lancaster. The city is going to need this someday, and providing for it now when the property is vacant is the smart thing to do. 



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Posted 29 January 2014 - 08:52 AM

I'd rather see it developed.

 

In an urban context, we should *never* just ask for "open space," because it's meaningless and usually harmful.  We should ask for carefully prescribed things - a "plaza," for example.  And those things really work when they have a well-designed built environment to interact with.  Lancaster does not have that yet, and that should be priority #1 - as lovely as the T&P Station and Post Office are, they don't create the engaging environment the street needs, due to their huge setback (with the T&P) or their monumental self-contained nature (with the PO).  The T&P warehouse can, with its loading docks making a natural place for businesses.  The other side of the street needs to be built up with engaging buildings that generate pedestrian traffic.  If the south end of downtown was already otherwise a bustling and walkable place to be, it might be different - but the south end of downtown is far, far away from that.

 

The real, quality "open space" of Lancaster should be the street itself and its sidewalks, arranged into a grand "outdoor room" by the buildings and businesses that front it, plus any opportunities for small, meaningful spaces like a plaza or pocket park that interact with and play off of the new development.  Even without that, though, the street and sidewalks can be something wonderful with the right development, and much more useful and popular than just some patches of grass.


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Posted 30 January 2014 - 03:32 PM

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 04:07 PM

The real, quality "open space" of Lancaster should be the street itself and its sidewalks, arranged into a grand "outdoor room" by the buildings and businesses that front it, plus any opportunities for small, meaningful spaces like a plaza or pocket park that interact with and play off of the new development.  Even without that, though, the street and sidewalks can be something wonderful with the right development, and much more useful and popular than just some patches of grass.

 

I've always thought that Lancaster had the potential to evolve into Fort Worth's Michigan Avenue (by a fairly grand stretch of the imagination, that is...). A wide (but not too wide or overengineered to be fast) boulevard that serves as a grand gateway into downtown and lined by monumental buildings. Just need to fill in the gaps, draw the foot traffic, complete the connection to the near southside and get ol' Cleopatra of Dallas to finally do what she's been promising (stalling, that is) for so many years now - redevelop and activate the T&P Warehouse.



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Posted 30 January 2014 - 04:16 PM

When something is finally done with T&P, perhaps that will be the spark that gets things going on that end of town. As things are today, it's a place you want to pass through to get to some place else, never a destination.


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Posted 30 January 2014 - 04:54 PM

When something is finally done with T&P, perhaps that will be the spark that gets things going on that end of town. As things are today, it's a place you want to pass through to get to some place else, never a destination.

 

 

And that is exactly the issue. You have two highly consequential buildings there whose futures are in question (T&P Warehouse and Post Office) that can either flood the area with activity once rehabbed and activated or (as is particularly true at this time with the T&P Warehouse) can serve as a vacuum in the area that actually discourages activity and investment simply by sitting empty.



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 11:22 AM

I am very much of the opinion that the Post Office needs to be a destination, like a museum, that draws people to that Lancaster corridor.



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 02:19 PM

I am very much of the opinion that the Post Office needs to be a destination, like a museum, that draws people to that Lancaster corridor.

 

Any ideas as to what sort of museum? Art seems to be pretty well covered at this point, perhaps a "grown-up" History and Science Museum, maybe a regional affiliate of the Smithsonian? I wonder if there is sufficient floor space for exhibits. Probably not for an aerospace museum, but for others… There was once a major trans-shipment operation based there so there is probably plenty of dock space and assembly/storage space. Other, much more industrial buildings, have been successfully converted to museums, I just wonder what sort of museum in that location would be successful at drawing the number of patrons and visitors necessary for it to be successful.



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 06:30 PM

In case it helps, TAD shows that the 251 W Lancaster Ave address of the post office is made up of 3 tracts of land.

 

Tract                    Bldg      Land

                         sq/ft     acres     Valuation

Childress A250 Tr 4S    99,030    4.0629    $6,195,440

Childress A250 Tr 4A    19,122    2.6000    $3,964,960

Childress A250 Tr 4W         0    1.2309    $1,877,770

 

The building seems to sit pretty much in tract 4A (which is the squarish 4 acre tract in at the intersection of Lancaster and Jennings), so I'm not sure how the numbers work out.

 

Tract 4W is the strip on the south end of the property adjacent to the RR tracks which looks like it should include the narrow building (warehouse? garage?) behind the PO. Interestingly, from the TAD map it looks like tract 4A includes a strip between 4A and 4W (seems like the dock area between the structures), the area between the PO and the T&P Terminal and also all the parking north of the T&P. This includes all the Lancaster frontage on that block and even a narrow strip that wraps along the Lancaster/Main intersection. I didn't now this was all USPS.

 

@renamerusk, I wouldn't want to see a garish hotel sign on it, either. However, I don't see signage carnage on any of the boutique hotels in the article linked above. Also, the city could deny permits for any of that nonsense. Another nice example that comes to mind is the Langham Hotel in Boston. No big bugly sign, but a good use of a historic building. The Renaissance revival building was the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston from 1922 until 1977.

 

I'd like for the lobby (at least) to remain publicly accessible, too, but if someone comes along with an idea that would preserve the interior and exterior beauty but at the cost of general public access - well, I'd rather support that than wait around hoping that someone else might eventually save it and keep it accessible to all. It's not likely to be accessible while waiting for a buyer/developer.



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Posted 01 February 2014 - 12:51 AM

 

I am very much of the opinion that the Post Office needs to be a destination, like a museum, that draws people to that Lancaster corridor.

 

Any ideas as to what sort of museum? Art seems to be pretty well covered at this point, perhaps a "grown-up" History and Science Museum, maybe a regional affiliate of the Smithsonian? I wonder if there is sufficient floor space for exhibits. Probably not for an aerospace museum, but for others… There was once a major trans-shipment operation based there so there is probably plenty of dock space and assembly/storage space. Other, much more industrial buildings, have been successfully converted to museums, I just wonder what sort of museum in that location would be successful at drawing the number of patrons and visitors necessary for it to be successful.

 

 

This was brought up elsewhere sometime, but an architecture museum would be a perfect fit. Perhaps a postal service museum? Train museum (making additions would be easy)? Piano/classical music museum (Van Cliburn)? 



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Posted 01 February 2014 - 11:35 AM

Do you realistically think that any of those would be be able to make a go in downtown Fort Worth? An architecture museum would work in Rome or London, even Chicago or New York, maybe even Miami Beach, but Fort Worth? THE Postal Service Museum is in Washington DC. and as cool has it is I doubt the demand for another one. Dallas has a jump on the train museum, and I don't know if the structure of the PO building could support rolling stock. The wild public hysteria for classical music certainly indicates the need for a multi-story museum dedicated to it (sarcasm off now). 

 

I still feel that the aviation museum at Meacham Airport could be a go, but needs better facilities to assure the preservation  of the exhibits. The historical impact of Cliburn and his continuing legacy in the form of the Competition deserves a space, but a storefront near Bass Hall, maybe in the Muse-Maddox  complex, should suffice.

 

Although I like the idea of a continuing public use for the PO building, I am at a loss of how it could be successfully repurposed, other than as the City Hall. If this did happen the old city hall building and site could be sold and returned to the tax rolls, or retained for the time being as additional city office space until a high-rise municipal office building can be built. Maybe the A&M Law School could  be persuaded to move in there, as their current site is better suited for hotel/hospitality and related uses being right across from the Convention Center. There are certainly deep alumni pockets that could be tapped for renovation purposes, and there is room for expansion of the law program, and even more extension courses that are not offered by other local universities. Maybe UTA could be persuaded to move their downtown program there, I believe they are fully maxed out at the old Santa Fe freight building. They are in growth more, and I bet more Business MBA and Urban Studies (etc.) classes could be supported in a central Fort Worth location located next to a TRE station. Maybe that space could be shared with UNT, Texas Tech, Texas State, etc. to allow these institutions to bring non-competing specialized programs to downtown Fort Worth. Another idea might be a tech incubator project driven by one of these or another higher ed school (UTA is already doing that in east Fort Worth, but hey, are we any anywhere near the saturation point for high tech innovation/startups in this area?) 



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Posted 01 February 2014 - 12:16 PM

I've always understood that If city hall moves into the post office the old building would be repurposed in order to get some departments out of of leased space and back on city property.

 

What about something like the City Museum in St. Louis?



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Posted 01 February 2014 - 01:03 PM

I've always understood that If city hall moves into the post office the old building would be repurposed in order to get some departments out of of leased space and back on city property.

 

What about something like the City Museum in St. Louis?

 

I have offered such a suggestion in an earlier post; and

 

Yes, the city could not only save the expense of leasing space; but it could also make money by selling one of its prime assets, the historic Lone Star Gas Building. The LSGB would make for a very nice boutique hotel and would be only two blocks from the convention center and only a block away from the federal courthouse and federal agencies complex.  The city gets to pocket some money and gets a nice boutique hotel.

 

I do like the St. Louis project, but still maintain the savings realized by the city relocating into the post office building can not be overlooked.  After all, the feds would hand over the post office to the city for nothing.

 

Keep Fort Worth folksy



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Posted 01 February 2014 - 01:12 PM

Re: City Museum in St. Louis:

 

I have looked at this place before (vicariously, via web site and posted blogs) and it is definitely a WOW! I feel this is what the Museum of Science and History should have been (could be?) I would like to think that Fort Worth is, or at least has the potential to become destination for families and individuals looking for a multi-museum experience, staying in hotels, eating in restaurants, etc.) and perhaps a venue like this would add to that appeal. Maybe something like this could be built into the T & P Warehouse, the St. Louis museum is huge (10 stories) and seems to be constantly building new attractions. Did you notice that there are apartments on the top floor? Mixed use!



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Posted 01 February 2014 - 01:13 PM

Why can't the city remain small an efficient, why commandeer more and more space, why not do more with less like everyone else?


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Posted 01 February 2014 - 02:03 PM

Why can't the city remain small an efficient, why commandeer more and more space, why not do more with less like everyone else?

 

The city is growing and the sheer amount of services necessary to respond to that growth, as well as new services unique to that sort of growth, call for a larger staff. The city cannot go back to the way it operated in the 1940's, 1960's or even 1990's. 



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Posted 01 February 2014 - 02:14 PM

I have looked at this place before (vicariously, via web site and posted blogs) and it is definitely a WOW! I feel this is what the Museum of Science and History should have been (could be?)

 

Not to drag this off topic, but I'm glad I'm not the only one underwhelmed by the redone museum.  It took a really nice museum and made it boring with a capital B.  The only positive I walked away with in my one and only visit was that it was included with stock show admission and I didn't have to pay full price.



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Posted 01 February 2014 - 02:27 PM

I will admit that I was disappointed with the content inside the museum.  I have actually been three times since it opened, with only one time being there to visit the museum.  The other times were for special functions inside.  I will say that I do like the new building better than the old one.  I just assisted you in dragging this off topic.



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Posted 01 February 2014 - 02:56 PM

The City Museum is absolutely the coolest place I have ever been. But I don't see something similar fitting into the PO. T&P perhaps. 

I also think the best thing to do with the building is make it the City Hall. 
 






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