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Posted 11 February 2011 - 03:45 PM

http://www.star-tele...ng-olivers.html

http://fortwortholog...own-fort-worth/

Finally!

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 08:18 PM

I second that. FINALLY!

...and even better that it's not a Wal-Mart!

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 12:33 PM

I was surprised that I didn't read about this new store here first. I thought that we had connected downtowners here :-) Wasn't there a thread here a little while ago complaining about the lack of a food store downtown and speculating on what would be a great fit?

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Posted 15 February 2011 - 06:45 AM

I was surprised that I didn't read about this new store here first. I thought that we had connected downtowners here :-) Wasn't there a thread here a little while ago complaining about the lack of a food store downtown and speculating on what would be a great fit?

SHHHHHHH or you'll jinx it!

It's only been rumored for 3 or 4 years now, think most stopped paying attention a couple years back. ...and what would be the likelihood of something going in during a recession when we couldn't get anyone to bite during the fat years.

I'll believe it when I'm shopping there, if they do open, they'll get my business simply because I want them to stay, not because this meat and tater guy prefers gourmet spuds, it's because he's thankful they're opening up a block away.

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Posted 16 February 2011 - 10:30 AM


I was surprised that I didn't read about this new store here first. I thought that we had connected downtowners here :-) Wasn't there a thread here a little while ago complaining about the lack of a food store downtown and speculating on what would be a great fit?

SHHHHHHH or you'll jinx it!

It's only been rumored for 3 or 4 years now, think most stopped paying attention a couple years back. ...and what would be the likelihood of something going in during a recession when we couldn't get anyone to bite during the fat years.

I'll believe it when I'm shopping there, if they do open, they'll get my business simply because I want them to stay, not because this meat and tater guy prefers gourmet spuds, it's because he's thankful they're opening up a block away.


This thread started my brothers and me discussing the last real grocery store in downtown proper. We all remember the Leonards/Everybody complex on the north end, but both brothers claim to have a recollection of a working grocery store on the south end up into the 1980's. They both worked on a drive-in bank somewhere around the Burnett Plaza and recall this grocery. Ring any bells for anyone?

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Posted 18 February 2011 - 04:53 PM


I was surprised that I didn't read about this new store here first. I thought that we had connected downtowners here :-) Wasn't there a thread here a little while ago complaining about the lack of a food store downtown and speculating on what would be a great fit?

SHHHHHHH or you'll jinx it!

It's only been rumored for 3 or 4 years now, think most stopped paying attention a couple years back. ...and what would be the likelihood of something going in during a recession when we couldn't get anyone to bite during the fat years.

I'll believe it when I'm shopping there, if they do open, they'll get my business simply because I want them to stay, not because this meat and tater guy prefers gourmet spuds, it's because he's thankful they're opening up a block away.


I can't speak to the rumors of the past few years, not sure of their origins. We prefer to announce imminent construction.

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Posted 18 February 2011 - 09:46 PM

I remember the Courthouse Market.........
"To take from one, because it is thought that his own industry and that of his fathers has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, ‘the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry, & the fruits acquired by it.'"

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 10:27 AM

I remember the Courthouse Market.........

Hahahaha... trust me I do not think that Oliver's will be a duplicate of the Courthouse Market, even though they had great burgers.

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 09:58 PM



I was surprised that I didn't read about this new store here first. I thought that we had connected downtowners here :-) Wasn't there a thread here a little while ago complaining about the lack of a food store downtown and speculating on what would be a great fit?

SHHHHHHH or you'll jinx it!

It's only been rumored for 3 or 4 years now, think most stopped paying attention a couple years back. ...and what would be the likelihood of something going in during a recession when we couldn't get anyone to bite during the fat years.

I'll believe it when I'm shopping there, if they do open, they'll get my business simply because I want them to stay, not because this meat and tater guy prefers gourmet spuds, it's because he's thankful they're opening up a block away.


This thread started my brothers and me discussing the last real grocery store in downtown proper. We all remember the Leonards/Everybody complex on the north end, but both brothers claim to have a recollection of a working grocery store on the south end up into the 1980's. They both worked on a drive-in bank somewhere around the Burnett Plaza and recall this grocery. Ring any bells for anyone?


I remember a grocery store in the buildings demolished for surface parking to be used by 1st United Methodist Church of Fort Worth. The grocery store and lunch place was called Turner and Dingee Grocery Store according to:
http://www.fortworth...dftw/oldftw.htm

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Posted 05 March 2011 - 11:03 PM

First allow me to be on record for being supportive and happy that Downtown Fort Worth is getting a grocery store. I support local projects.

But is this approval of a TIF use for Sundance Square/Oliver's Grocery similar to the use of a TIF denied to Fort Worth South-Trinity Vision/Streetcar? I recall one prominently repeated criticism of the Streetcar TIF was that it would serve only one or at most two districts. In all candor, how many constituents beyond downtown can be expected to benefited from having an Oliver's Grocery?

http://www.fortworth...ildate=3/8/2011

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 08:32 PM

I'm a novice in the TIF arena, not sure how it relates or if it relates to PIDs on my yearly property taxes but I thought a lot of it was based on taxes in the 76102 area. I just know I pay a lot more than I care to when it comes to taxes and even more so due to my downtown address.

Even though a downtown market is the first item I'd say I'm 100% behind when it comes to where my taxes go, the StarTelegram has some info on it as downtown development funds: http://www.star-tele...hould-be-a.html Looks like the provisions stipulate local jobs and encourage using locally grown products.

I'm just hoping with some development funds helping to pave the way for a market, there will be some transparency to who's making what and once everyone realizes one niche market does gang busters business, perhaps that will entice some expansion into other market type niches.

I'm not sure how a streetcar would impact downtown business but markets are anchor businesses you have to have them.

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 09:20 PM

I am always glad to hear of a new business opening in Fort Worth. However, I can not for the life of me imagine what business the city has financing a grocery store. Honestly, with a huge budget deficit looming and a multi-million dollar shortfall in the city's pension fund, small business financing is an essential city service? I wish Oliver's much success in their new location. But really, if they need a loan to do some remodeling, let them go to a bank. This is yet another example of how the City Council has lost sight of what is truly important in city government.

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Posted 15 March 2011 - 07:48 AM

I am always glad to hear of a new business opening in Fort Worth. However, I can not for the life of me imagine what business the city has financing a grocery store.


The loan for construction purposes is coming from the Fort Worth Local Development Corporation, a non-profit created by the city in 1987. It is funded by rents and natural gas revenues on city-owned property, not from any sort of taxes or the city's general fund and thus has nothing to do with the general fund budget issues. Oliver's sales tax pays it back, and if they don't make it, Sundance Square has to pay it back in full.

In these sorts of economic times, I feel that helping small businesses invest in our central city is exactly the sort of thing these sorts of loans should be doing. We can either just slash everything to the bone, or invest and innovate our way forward - I believe the latter is far healthier than the former. When combined with the fact that the LDC funds likely can't be used for the general fund anyway, I can't see how this is anything but a positive.

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Posted 15 March 2011 - 10:35 AM

I couldn't agree more. Look at what the current business lending climate is doing to the economy. It's silly. And you can blame the FDIC if you really want to point a finger. Banks are afraid to even do a lot of deals that they know are solid because no one wants to draw any attention to their books.

I heard a CEO say somewhere along the way that a company can't save its way into profitability. You have to invest your way to profitability. Now is exactly the time for it.

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Posted 20 March 2011 - 12:23 PM

Long Time Coming

I think this is the first step in the next and long over due phase of downtown Fort Worth. With the Hell's Half Acre's trinity of power brokers that have sculpted Sundance Square into the Real Estate and Corporate oasis that it is, I truly do not understand what took so long to implement this crucial step.

I believe it's become painfully clear that Sundance has stagnated for a while now, even begun to contract, I'd hate to see what we'd look like had we not had the Super Bowl and ESPN here a few months ago, I've half expected to see seedier types of establishments popping up as they did in the 70's and 80's.

You can only eat out and meet your friends over drinks for so long, you eventually have to return to or visit some form of normalcy on a regular basis by shopping, cooking, just regular living in your downtown home, to do so up until now the first step was to hop in a vehicle to leave Sundance Island to go get your stuff.

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Posted 21 March 2011 - 08:04 AM

Out of curiousity, stagnated and contracting as measured by what metric I wonder?

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Posted 24 March 2011 - 09:18 PM

Out of curiousity, stagnated and contracting as measured by what metric I wonder?


City Data, building permits, existing home sales, sales tax revenue, sales tax delinquencies, foreclosures, store vacancies and turn overs, and the most technical of all, I look out my window over Sundance several times a day and notice the changes year over year.

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Posted 25 March 2011 - 05:58 AM

The items off that list that are actually relevant to SSQ, are all positive and have been for decades. Since Sundance has not never developed any for sale residential product, existing home sales are not a direct measure, but in the context of condo sales downtown, I would suggest that the recession of the last 2+ years is temporary (though we have managed to string it out to record length). There has never been even one foreclosure in Sundance. And there has certainly never been any risk of repeating the seedy 70's.

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Posted 25 March 2011 - 06:39 PM

The risk of history repeating itself is always there, given a long enough time line anything is possible. I do find it amusing that some of what many would qualify as seedy in the 70’s is now readily available in many American households, and on rare occasion, visible on downtown streets, the risk is always there, hence all the officers and private security 2 to 3 of every 7 nights downtown.

I think it’s become obvious you and I are focusing on two totally different layers of downtown and more than likely different areas, perhaps a micro vs macro approach. As for stats that stand up 20 years plus, that’s too broad to be useful to anything other than census types of generalizations. I lean more towards linear dynamics myself.

I like your Sundance, I truly do, unfortunately the one I’ve called my front yard going on 7 years now is not quite as rosy but I love it just the same, blemishes and all. I plan to always have it as one of my residences even though it may not always be the primary, it will always be my home.

I think the addition of Oliver’s is going to make downtown incredibly more livable and finally put that last piece in the puzzle that many of us had begun to assume was lost for some unknown reason.

If you’re looking for a good debate, you can always find a Dallas vs Fort Worth thread active and I’m sure you could find a “Sundance Sucks” thread over on one of the Dallas or Deep Ellum forums.


I called Oliver's earlier today for permission to post their Mansfield Store's online menu, which can be found here: http://www.oliversfi...tcher_shop.html

I was going to post everything but I'm just grabbing the highlights here, meat, beer, etc...

Butcher Shop

Mobile Knife Sharpening
Every 3rd Wednesday of each Month
Just drop off your knives at anytime before the 3rd Wednesday of the month at the cashiers station and pickup on the 3rd Thursday. Payment due at the time of pick up.

Sausages- May change daily
* Chorizo
* Knockwurst
* Bratwurst
* Spicy Italian
* Mild Italian
* Texas Sausage
* Venison and Cherry
* Chicken with apple
* Chicken Mediterranean
* Andouilee
* Boudin
* Breakfast sauasge
* Banger

Poultry- May change daily
* Chicken Kabobs
* Chicken Cordon Blue
* Fajitas spiced
* Asian marinade
* Parmesan crusted
* Chicken breast bone in
* Chicken just breast
* Pesto chicken breast
* Marinated Chicken kabobs with onions, squash, and tomatoes
* Whole chickens
* Pesto whole chicken roasters
* Stuffed and breaded chicken breasts
* Cajun Marinated
* Lemon Pepper Marinated
* Pecan Crusted
* Southwest Marinated

Pork-May change daily
* Tenderloins
* Italian marinated tenderloins
* Pepper and herb crusted tenderloins
* Asian marinated tenderloins
* Pork butts BBQ ready
* Pork chops
* Pork chops pesto marinated
* Stuffed chops Spicy Italian Sausage
* Pork chops breaded
* Boneless chops
* Apple Sausage Stuffed Pork Chops
* Pork scaloppini
* Pork kabobs

Beef - May change daily
* Tenderloins whole
* Chateau Briand pepper and herb crusted filets
* Bacon wrapped filets
* Prime rib roast 1/4
* Prime rib roast 1/4 with pepper and herbs
* New York strip, Plain and Herb Crusted
* T-bone
* Porterhouse
* Ribeye, Plain and Herb Crusted
* Sirloins, Plain and Marinated
* Top round roast pot roast style
* Chuck steaks
* Short ribs
* Marinated and rubbed short ribs
* Skirt steaks
* Skirt steaks, fajita marinated
* Cubed steak
* Cowboy ribeye
* Bone in Strip steak
* 80/20 ground
* 90/10
* 90/10 sirloin
* Burger patties
* Jalapeno and Cheddar patties
* Blue cheese and caramelized onion patties
* Beef kabobs

Lamb- May change daily
* Tenderloin
* Tenderloin marinated
* Racks
* Marinated rack
* Leg of lamb
* Lamb kabobs

Veal-May change daily
* Cutlets
* Scaloppini
* Scaloppini parmesan breaded
* Veal chops
* Veal chops marinated

Venison-May change daily
* Racks
* Marinated chops
* Denver leg Roasts

Fish-May change daily
* Tuna
* Salmon
* Swordfish
* Tilapia
* Grouper
* Snapper
* Crab cakes

Shellfish-May change daily
* Bacon wrapped shrimp
* Scallops
* Lobster tails
* Crab

Prepared Foods

Poultry
* Chicken Cordon Blue
* Chicken Marsala
* Chicken Parmesan
* Pesto rubbed Chicken Grilled topped with Marinated Tomatoes, Basil and Fresh Mozzarella
* Chili Seasoned Fire Grilled Chicken
* Lemon Herb Roasted Chicken
* Chicken Saltimbocca
* Picata Style Chicken Breast
* Chicken Filled with Pine nuts, Olives, and Feta Cheese
* Mango Salsa Chicken
* House Dried Tomato, Arugula, Balsamic Onions Topped Chicken
* Chicken layered with Italian ham and Brie
* Turkey Rolatini Roast filled with Pecans, Cranberries, and Sage
* Stuffed Quail
* Sweet Crispy Duck

Side Dishes
* Roasted Garlic mashed Potatoes
* Spring Vegetable Rice Pilaf
* Scalloped Potatoes
* Cilantro and Garlic Rice
* Green Chili Borracho Beans
* Steamed Brown Rice
* Au Gratin Potatoes
* Refried Beans
* Roasted Tri Colored Potatoes
* Twice Baked Potatoes Stuffed with Andouilee and Cheese
* Rice Cakes Croquettes
* Blended Sweet Potatoes and Boursin Cheese
* Green Pea Rice
* Purple Potato Hash with sweet Peppers and
* Mediterrian Chicken Sausage
* Molasses and Wisconsin Cheddar Baked Beans
* Roasted Rosemary Potatoes

Red Meat
* Meat loaf
* Beef Wellington
* Bison Meatballs
* Marinated and Fire Grilled Flank Steak
* Braised Roast with Root Vegetables
* Osso Bucco
* Venison Shanks
* Roast Beef
* Beef Roulades filled with Spinach, Mushrooms and Boursin Cheese
* Tri Tip Steaks
* Meat loaf Folded with Sweet Ham,
* Gruyere Cheese, and Portabella Mushrooms
* Coffee Crusted Ostrich Loin Roast
* Smothered Port Chops
* Balsamic Roasted Pork Tenderloins

Fresh Vegetables
* Creamed Spinach
* Steamed Asparagus
* Sherry Mushrooms
* Apple Bacon and Onions Cabbage
* Sautéed Spinach with Sliced garlic in Virgin Olive Oil
* Summer Squash Sauté
* Broccoli and Cheese
* Au Gratin Cauliflower
* Roasted Stuffed Tomatoes
* Vegetable Wellington
* Lemon Basil Carrots
* Pan roasted Root Vegetables
* Mustard Greens with Apple Smoked Bacon
* Braised Okra and Plum Tomatoes
* Stuffed Grilled Portabella Mushrooms
* Artichoke, Oven Dried Tomatoes, and Basil Sauté
* Broccoli Steamed

Seafood
* Maryland style Crab Cakes
* Short Smoked Salmon with an Orange Soy vinaigrette
* Cured house Salmon
* Blacked Catfish
* Bronzed Salmon
* Pecan Spinach Crusted Salmon
* Crab Stuffed Tilapia

Bar-B-Que
* Smoked Brisket
* Chopped Pork
* Hot Smoked Sausages
* Cold Smoked and Fire Grilled Chicken
* Smoked Short Beef Ribs
* BBQ Pork Ribs

Tex - Mex
* Cheese, Beef or Chicken Enchiladas
* House made Tamales
* Skirt Steak Fajitas with Peppers and Onions
* Fajita Seasoned Chicken with Pepper

Steak Toppers
* Balsamic Mushrooms
* Caramelized Onions
* Smothering Sauce
* Veal Glace
* Calamati Tapenade

Pastas
* Bolognese Lasagna
* Four Cheese and Vegetable Lasagna
* Jumbo Shrimp Alfredo
* Veal Scaloppini with a Caper Wine Sauce
* Calzone with Sweet Peppers and Sausage
* Chicken and Prosciutto Lasagna
* Tri Cheese Manicotti
* Fresh Tomato Sauce and Italian Herbed
* Chicken on Cappalini Pasta


BEER: Mix and Match
6 pack of BEER


Want to try something new or want to try a variety of different beers.
Our Regular Mix and Match is just $9.99- Grab any 6 beers from beers priced under $10.00 and you pay only $9.99 for the six pack.
Our Premium 6-pack is only $14.99.
Items listed below are always subject to change
Guiness Extra Stout
Guiness Draught
Harp Lager
Smithwicks
Newcastle Brown Ale
Sierra Nevada Pale Ale
Bass Pale Ale
Breckenridge Avalanche
Breckenridge IPA
Breckenridge Vanilla Porter
Stone Ruination
Stone IPA
Stone India Pale Ale
Arrogant Bastard Ale
Bridgeport India Ale
Black Butt Porter
Mirror Pond
Stone Mill Organic
Summit Extra Pale Ale
Summit India Pale Ale
Redhook Esp
Longhammer IPA
Full Sail Amber
Full Sail Pale Ale
Anchorsteam
Longboard
Firerock
Red Strip
Stella Artois
Peronia
Becks Dark
Spaten Optimator
Spaten Premium
Franziskaner
Leffe
Warsteiner
Shocktop
Honey Moon
Blue Moon
Sam Adams Boston Lager
Sam Adams Winter Lager
Sam Adams Cherry Wheat
Sam Adams Imperial White
Sam Adams Imperial Stout
Hop Devil
Jack Whacker
Efes
Real Ale Sampler
Real Ale Brown Ale
Fireman #4 Blonde Ale
Left Hand
Avery White Rascal
Avery New World Porter
Dogfish 60 Min IPA
Dogfish Raison D’Etre
Kirin
Sapporo
Estrella Damm
Dos Equis Lager
Dos Equis Amber
Toni
Sol
Negra Modela
Negra Especial
Pacifico
Tecate
Bohemia
Golden Monkey
Pete’s Wicked Ale
Pete’s Strawberry Blond
Wild Blue
Rahr Lager
Rahr Red
Rahr Ugly Pug
Rahr Buffalo Butt
Quilmes
Leinenkugels 1888
Leinenkugels Berry Weiss
Leinenkugles Homey Weiss
Leinenkugels Classic Amber
Harpoon Celtic Ale
Harpoon IPA
Harpoon UFO
Shiner Bock
Shiner Bock Hefenwenzen
Shiner Black Lager
Shiner Commenorator
Grolsch
Amstel
Heineken Dark Lager
Heineken Light
Amberbock
Mich Ultra Amber
Mich Ultra Lime
Mich Ultra Pomegranate Raspberry
Mich Ultra Orange Grapefruit
Woodchuck Raspberry
Bud Light
Bud
Bud Select
Bud American Ale
Coors
Coors Light
Moosehead
Miller Genuine
Boulevard
George Killians
Labatt Blue
Widmer
Rolling Rock
Barons Lemon Myrtle
Barons Black Wattle
New castle
Cristal
Carta Blanc
Corona
Ace Fermented Perry Cider
Belhaven Scottish Ale
Samuel Smith Taddy Porter
Samuel Smith Oatmeal Stout
Dead Guy Ale Rogue
St Pete’s English Ale
Young’s Double Chocolate Stout

Wicked Awesome!

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Posted 25 March 2011 - 09:17 PM

Thank you, I was never looking to debate, just to offer the facts that might counter the notion of decline. And, more importantly to learn what might be creating the impression.

I also appreciate your posting the Oliver's info from the Manfield location. That was a category that was beyond difficult to fill, and it is critical that he finds support from the downtown neighborhood.

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 05:31 PM

That is an impressive beer list.

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Posted 07 April 2011 - 03:53 PM

Could open in July!

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 06:57 AM

Oliver's opening PDQ:

August! Can't wait!

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Posted 20 August 2011 - 12:36 PM

I am now on a hunger strike waiting for this grocery store to open. (At least until I get hungry later.)


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Posted 11 September 2011 - 11:37 AM

Oh, boy! Out shooting this morning (photos) and see lots of progress inside Oliver's. I resisted taking through the window shots at the new freezers, coolers etc..., but it is looking great. I am so excited. My wife has been using Oliver's as an excuse not to grocery shop for about a year. "I don't want to fill the pantry before Oliver's opens up!" Needless to say, I have been doing a lot of shopping this last year.

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 02:09 PM

I am getting a little impatient.

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 04:29 PM

I am getting a little impatient.


Tempted to say "me too":)

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 06:45 AM

Opening late October...

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 09:22 AM

Was looking over my balcony at Oliver's grocery store construction. I was thinking to myself, "I hope it is still on track to open", and then a big truck pulled up with new Oliver's awnings. That was the only think that could for sure answer my question. Seemed like a real coincidence.


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Posted 16 October 2011 - 12:09 PM

It looks like Oliver's is going to liven up the corner a little bit. I like the look of the awnings from above.

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 05:27 PM

I think Stephen Butt is watching this closely - him moving to Fort Worth, is that a coincidence?

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:15 PM

Had to have a Google moment. (Stephen Butt) HEB. Central Market. Yes?

Shot this on my way to Barnes and Noble for a new health book.

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 08:44 PM

Had to have a Google moment. (Stephen Butt) HEB. Central Market. Yes?

Shot this on my way to Barnes and Noble for a new health book.

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Really nice looking awnings!

What do they put on those to keep them from fading or is it a replace once every few years kind of thing?

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 06:03 AM

Will there be outdoor eating at Oliver's, say similar to what you have at PF Chang's. True or false?

Keep Fort Worth folksy.

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 08:30 AM

Will there be outdoor eating at Oliver's, say similar to what you have at PF Chang's. True or false?

Keep Fort Worth folksy.


I really don't think so. They will have prepared foods but I think will focus on groceries and raw stuff. BTW I seldom get on an elevator that somebody doesn't say, "I just can't wait for Oliver's to open." I was unaware of the pent up demand. (Including from my wife.)

My new diet (for life) emphasizes fruits and vegetables. Makes it perfect to buy that stuff frequently which make for perfect timing for this store to open. Rather than buy a weeks worth of fruit at Target we can be what we need every couple of days.
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Posted 17 October 2011 - 08:53 AM

The awnings are made from a vinyl fabric with an acrylic coating on both sides. This usually keeps them from fading significantly.

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 10:46 AM

Will there be outdoor eating at Oliver's, say similar to what you have at PF Chang's. True or false?


Absolutely there will be outdoor seating. You can see from the photographs that the sidewalk is being reworked to allow for new outdoor seating areas.

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 08:17 AM

Oliver's opens Saturday!! WFAA preview>>> http://www.wfaa.com/...-133127823.html

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 08:46 AM

I couldn't help but laugh after that story ran on WFAA last night. They went to all of the trouble to have a reporter do a live shot for a story that ran all of 50 seconds. Not sure if it was a lack of content or if it was sacrificed for other news.

That being said, I can't wait to try out Oliver's. Their deli menu looks great.

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 09:36 AM

Wife and I saw the story on Channel 8 as well. We looked over the balcony below and saw them shooting. (was live) Was excited to see the story. My wife is still on a hunger strike waiting for them to open. (I told her if it doesn't open until 2013 she will wind up the perfect weight...)
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Posted 04 November 2011 - 06:18 PM

They're open now if you want to go check them out....

7 PM Friday evening.

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 09:01 PM

Nice interior shots.

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Posted 07 November 2011 - 01:07 PM

My wife and I wandered in Saturday for lunch. The food was good, not great, but the prices are quite reasonable. Seemed like pure chaos behind the counter with (I assume) the manager barking commands like a drill sergeant, but I imagine that's to be expected on opening day. We'd go back, although I'd try something different next time (I had the chicken cordon bleu on flatbread - more rabiit food than substance (aka meat))
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Posted 08 November 2011 - 06:27 PM

Tonight I tried to swing by on my way home to Trinity Bluffs. I wrongly assumed that the lot adjacent to Oliver's would be available for patrons and was waved away by a very stern booth attendant. Since there was no street parking available and I wasn't in a walking mood I gave it a pass. Am I missing something with the parking?

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Posted 09 November 2011 - 08:44 AM

The parking garage at 3rd and Taylor (just around the corner from Oliver's at 4th and Throckmorton) is free after 5 weekdays and all day on weekends. Just remember which floor you're on - I've been left wandering there many times! :)
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Posted 09 November 2011 - 11:25 AM

Tonight I tried to swing by on my way home to Trinity Bluffs. I wrongly assumed that the lot adjacent to Oliver's would be available for patrons and was waved away by a very stern booth attendant. Since there was no street parking available and I wasn't in a walking mood I gave it a pass. Am I missing something with the parking?

I don't think they have any designated parking spaces, like most places downtown you're pretty much on your own where parking goes: http://www.sundances...parking_map.pdf

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 04:35 PM

I am always glad to hear of a new business opening in Fort Worth. However, I can not for the life of me imagine what business the city has financing a grocery store. Honestly, with a huge budget deficit looming and a multi-million dollar shortfall in the city's pension fund, small business financing is an essential city service? I wish Oliver's much success in their new location. But really, if they need a loan to do some remodeling, let them go to a bank. This is yet another example of how the City Council has lost sight of what is truly important in city government.


Fortworthology already replied to this but I will also point out that it is exceptionally difficult for downtown areas in most cities to recruit grocery markets. In Los Angeles, a similar "rabit out of a hat" arrangement had to be made to recruit Ralph's to Downtown, despite a large number of residential condo units.

I visited Oliver's over the weekend during the film festival and was delighted.

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 10:04 PM

They had a fire in a motor within a piece of equipment and this prompted evacuation of the store this morning.




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