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Posted 24 January 2013 - 10:46 PM

That big box... thing...lights up and changes colors.
 
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Walking down the sidewalk I can't help but wonder why they did'nt flip flop the whole thing, and put the retail front on the south side and across from sundance west where as now it faces across the street towards nothing, the big blank wall of the marriot, and put the park/plaza and dropoff lane on the north side. Maybe this way it will expand walkability and pedestrian activity towards the north and away from Sundance. 


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Posted 24 January 2013 - 11:00 PM

I can't wait to that side-walk!!!!



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Posted 25 January 2013 - 11:26 AM

I honestly don't know where you are going if you walk through there, unless it's just a nice way to get over to Taylor?



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Posted 25 January 2013 - 01:41 PM

Maybe it'll bring in some people from that round superblock building (cant find/remember the name) and the Library.



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Posted 25 January 2013 - 03:03 PM

The reason they didn't flip the plan was that the north tower already had a drop off area built from PNL's renovation of that part of the center.  The new owners wanted the South Tower to have an equal drop off zone, entry, and lobby.  Retail will front the pedestrian walkway connecting Second Street.  Opening up Second Street, even though it is just to pedestrians was very important because studies have shown that superblocks do not work.  Also, this expands the retail area to the north and does provide an activity where there is the blank wall of the Renaissance Worthington Hotel.  It also allows larger areas of retail to be placed in first level of the parking garage.



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Posted 26 January 2013 - 06:50 AM

Was too dark out to really get both the light bar and the buildings, but you get the idea.  Austin55 has a prettier pic above. 

 

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 09:07 PM

Omg it is beautiful. I love this it is better than I thought it would be.

 

I agree with your assessment, though there is one thing that I wish could have been given more attention: the sky bridge connecting City Place (CP) and the Worthington Hotel.

 

I suspect that keeping the sky bridge was something that was required for the project to have any chance of being realized.   However, if something could be done in an artistic or more creative flair to the sky bridge, it would be an enormous improvement from its current presentation.

 

The feel of Throckmorton Street is so much nicer since the removal of the overhead parking deck that had created permanent darkness along that stretch of road and gave a shadowy and unwelcoming fee to it. To CP's credit, the Throckmorton streetscape is very nicely done. 

 

It might be nice if all the sky bridges were removed that cross Commerce Street eliminating the north bound vista from being obstructed; as wells as, establishing a permanent policy of banning future sky bridges in downtown.

 

Keep Fort Worth folksy



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Posted 27 January 2013 - 12:52 AM

Did'nt that skybridge have like treadmills and stuff in it before? I know one of them used to, I thought it was this one. I think that's actually a pretty cool place for a gym.  I could walk up there all day and watch the traffic and city below. 

The skybridge supports do quite get in the way of the sidewalk,I expect there to be some people jams.

Another thing interesting about it is that there is what looks like a short part that is actually outside, there is like a foot long or so area between the bridge and building that isn't glassed in, you can look see it if you look closely at Brian's picture. Maybe it's just not quite finished?



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Posted 28 January 2013 - 09:36 PM

I think the bridge is finished

Looks like they started taking the windows out of the south tower.

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 09:50 PM

This really does look nice, clean and sleak. I wish 2nd street was open to vehicles as well. Gee, imagine a planner saying that.



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Posted 29 January 2013 - 09:25 AM

When I was downtown over the weekend, I had a chance to walk along the retail area on Throckmorton Street.  Jimmy John's is going in on the far north portion of the new retail strip along Throckmorton, next to the entry court for Legacy Texas Bank.  The Park Tavern will be in that same stretch, but on the opposite end.  They will be on the south end of the strip with southern frontage facing the landscaped area. 



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Posted 02 February 2013 - 04:46 PM

Finally.  One City Place gets its turn.  Walking back from Target today I was shocked to see the windows removed from the North side of this building.  Very exciting for me, as this building has been a black hole in our city for 8 years.

Speaking of walking to Target.  68 degrees.  Not one other person in my 3 mile walk.  People have become amazingly lazy.  Plenty of cars.  Nobody walking.  The people in my building are on the treadmill in the workout center (makes the air dirty) and then they drive to the store and everywhere else in lieu of walking,  which would make the air cleaner.  And no wonder why we are the diabetes capital.

 

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 01:20 AM

Walking does nothing to fix the environment Brian. Instead, you should buy a Prius and drive because then you use no gas!

/Suburban way of thinking.

 

About the picture-I don't guess I ever realized how bland the south tower looks. The North one really does look 100% better. 



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Posted 03 February 2013 - 01:34 AM


 

 

About the picture-I don't guess I ever realized how bland the south tower looks. The North one really does look 100% better. 


60's/70's Architecture.... What else can ya say?  


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Posted 03 February 2013 - 01:10 PM

Walking does nothing to fix the environment Brian. Instead, you should buy a Prius and drive because then you use no gas!

/Suburban way of thinking.

 

About the picture-I don't guess I ever realized how bland the south tower looks. The North one really does look 100% better. 

Disagree completely Austin. Walking can save the environment.  Driving a Prius and pretty much anything else ruins the environment.  Walking can be an alternative to driving polluting vehicles, like when I walk for groceries.  The Prius dirties the air to make the electricity even for the short period it is not burning Saudi Arabian oil.  And if I were to drive an electric it would be a much better electric like the Chevy Volt.  Much better for the environment as it is always a "Plug in".  And it is much better for America as no Prius's are made in America.


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Posted 03 February 2013 - 03:00 PM

I think you missed Austin's sarcasm.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 11:49 AM

Speaking of walking to Target.  68 degrees.  Not one other person in my 3 mile walk.  People have become amazingly lazy.  Plenty of cars.  Nobody walking.  The people in my building are on the treadmill in the workout center (makes the air dirty) and then they drive to the store and everywhere else in lieu of walking,  which would make the air cleaner.  And no wonder why we are the diabetes capital.

it is simple---most people don't like to carry grocery bags for that long of a distance.



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Posted 06 February 2013 - 11:30 PM

it is simple---most people don't like to carry grocery bags for that long of a distance.

 Backpack? Backwoods is almost across the street.



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Posted 07 February 2013 - 01:24 AM

Speaking of walking to Target.  68 degrees.  Not one other person in my 3 mile walk.  People have become amazingly lazy.  Plenty of cars.  Nobody walking.  The people in my building are on the treadmill in the workout center (makes the air dirty) and then they drive to the store and everywhere else in lieu of walking,  which would make the air cleaner.  And no wonder why we are the diabetes capital.

it is simple---most people don't like to carry grocery bags for that long of a distance.

 

Most people are very lazy, then. 


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Posted 08 February 2013 - 10:43 AM

Speaking of walking to Target.  68 degrees.  Not one other person in my 3 mile walk.  People have become amazingly lazy.  Plenty of cars.  Nobody walking.  The people in my building are on the treadmill in the workout center (makes the air dirty) and then they drive to the store and everywhere else in lieu of walking,  which would make the air cleaner.  And no wonder why we are the diabetes capital.

it is simple---most people don't like to carry grocery bags for that long of a distance.

 

Most people are very lazy, then. 

When was the last time you lugged several bags of groceries for several miles? 



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Posted 08 February 2013 - 12:46 PM

Speaking of walking to Target.  68 degrees.  Not one other person in my 3 mile walk.  People have become amazingly lazy.  Plenty of cars.  Nobody walking.  The people in my building are on the treadmill in the workout center (makes the air dirty) and then they drive to the store and everywhere else in lieu of walking,  which would make the air cleaner.  And no wonder why we are the diabetes capital.

it is simple---most people don't like to carry grocery bags for that long of a distance.
 
Most people are very lazy, then. 
When was the lat time you lugged several bags of groceries for several miles? 

Sounds like a job for a streetcar.

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 01:50 PM

 

 

Speaking of walking to Target.  68 degrees.  Not one other person in my 3 mile walk.  People have become amazingly lazy.  Plenty of cars.  Nobody walking.  The people in my building are on the treadmill in the workout center (makes the air dirty) and then they drive to the store and everywhere else in lieu of walking,  which would make the air cleaner.  And no wonder why we are the diabetes capital.

it is simple---most people don't like to carry grocery bags for that long of a distance.
 
Most people are very lazy, then. 
When was the lat time you lugged several bags of groceries for several miles? 

Sounds like a job for a streetcar.

Well played, sir.  Well played.  :smwink:



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Posted 13 February 2013 - 06:27 PM

Now that the South tower is getting done, it's kinda fun to remember the days when it was nearly a residential project.

 

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 06:44 PM

Now that the South tower is getting done, it's kinda fun to remember the days when it was nearly a residential project.

 

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There's still time to at least make the tower residential.

It can still happen. . . . . . 


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Posted 16 February 2013 - 01:19 PM

11pm last night.  Walking back from the Trinity River.  City Place One. Construction lights on.  It really is happening.

 

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And then yesterday before I went to work, I saw a huge team of guys on City Place one with ropes going over.  Not washing windows but never figured out what they were doing...

 

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 01:46 PM

11pm last night.  Walking back from the Trinity River.  City Place One. Construction lights on.  It really is happening.

 

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Throckmorton Street is looking nice these days.  I have always thought that it is a diamond in the ruff.



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Posted 16 February 2013 - 04:33 PM

So is it going to be re-twinned or will it be different? Or does anyone know?



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Posted 16 February 2013 - 07:33 PM

So is it going to be re-twinned or will it be different? Or does anyone know?


From what I've been told, it's gonna look pretty much like City Place Two


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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:47 PM

The Towers are so identical, and close, that any individuality would look awkward, I think.  They are a matched set.


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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:51 PM

Here's the view from the side taken on Sunday.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:19 PM

Will there be retail on the first floor of the tower, like the North tower?



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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:02 AM

Will there be retail on the first floor of the tower, like the North tower?

 

Should be... 

Would definitely be a shame if it wasn't. 


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Posted 04 March 2013 - 07:36 PM

Jimmy John's moving in day.
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Posted 17 April 2013 - 02:34 PM

I explored the ground level complex today. Everything seems to be finshed up, all thats left is for the retailers to move in. Jimmy Johns is open and delicious. 

The South tower has had more of the old glass torn out an a few new peices were put in today.

 

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 10:37 PM

I see that there is now glass going in where there never was glass before on the north side.  I think the complex will look really nice when it is all renovated and shops are open on the ground floor.



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Posted 18 April 2013 - 08:36 PM

Eh, I kind of prefer the old building to this one (at least from the outside; I haven't been inside either one).


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Posted 18 April 2013 - 11:57 PM

Eh, I kind of prefer the old building to this one (at least from the outside; I haven't been inside either one).

 

It really hasn't been changed yet. I'm sure the exterior will get some kind of face lift. 

I'm still hoping they use it for residential purposes, but I'm doubting it more everyday. 


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Posted 19 April 2013 - 07:46 AM

I think that hope train has long since sailed.



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Posted 19 April 2013 - 07:17 PM

 

Eh, I kind of prefer the old building to this one (at least from the outside; I haven't been inside either one).

 

It really hasn't been changed yet. I'm sure the exterior will get some kind of face lift. 

I'm still hoping they use it for residential purposes, but I'm doubting it more everyday. 

 

 

Oops, I should have specified the area between the towers. The updated North tower is much better now than how it used to look.


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Posted 20 April 2013 - 12:25 AM

 

 

Eh, I kind of prefer the old building to this one (at least from the outside; I haven't been inside either one).

 

It really hasn't been changed yet. I'm sure the exterior will get some kind of face lift. 

I'm still hoping they use it for residential purposes, but I'm doubting it more everyday. 

 

 

Oops, I should have specified the area between the towers. The updated North tower is much better now than how it used to look.

 

 

Oh.... well, that used to be a mall. Now it's a garage with ground level retail, so I think they did what they thought was the best they could do with it. 

For a multi-level parking building, I have NO issue with it, especially comparing it to some of the other garages we have in downtown. 


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Posted 21 April 2013 - 05:46 PM

Glass is moving out and back on quick on the  South Tower

 

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 02:48 PM

There is a new article out in today's Fort Worth Business Press about the project.

 

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 08:24 AM

Based on that article this also means that this is a good time to start building new skyscrapers in the downtown area to give even more office space to Fort Worth



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Posted 31 May 2013 - 11:58 PM

Based on that article this also means that this is a good time to start building new skyscrapers in the downtown area to give even more office space to Fort Worth

 

Patience.... 


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Posted 01 June 2013 - 05:06 PM

Post #241, picture of City Center South Tower Renovation, begs opinions of another dubious David M. Schwarz production -  the Fort Worth Public Library renovation. Yipes!; what was he thinking of?



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Posted 03 June 2013 - 07:32 AM

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 07:45 AM

Yes, I remember attending an AIA meeting where he mentioned that he had severe budgetary constraints, yet he had to put a shell over the old library and he had to make sure that it didn't leak.



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Posted 03 June 2013 - 08:56 AM

I go back and forth on how I feel about the Library.  On the one hand, it sucks, aesthetically anyway.  But on the other hand, grand libraries are going away.  Maybe it doesn't make sense to spend crazy money like we used to on these things.

 

Although, maybe the library could move into the Post Office?  I think I'd like that a lot.



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Posted 03 June 2013 - 12:00 PM

The front of the library is fine, apart from the cheap materials. The rest of it is...not great. But considering that Schwarz apparently had to design it using the money the library found in its couch cushions, I cut it some slack (I remember reading somewhere that for a while after it opened, it was just an exterior shell - they didn't even have money to do the interior that's there now until later). And it's waaaaay better than just having a painfully '70s underground (seriously?) library.



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Posted 03 June 2013 - 02:21 PM

The library's interior today is miles better than what I grew up with in the 80s.  I will throw mucho credit to Ed and Vicki Bass for the amazing children's section.  I don't get downstairs much these days because the kids find it "boring."

 

And for a public institution, I find the foyer to be rather grand.


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Shaw-Clarke NA 






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