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#51 dangr.dave

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Posted 12 March 2015 - 09:38 AM

Cow horns?  That art looks like a centipede to me. 



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Posted 12 March 2015 - 09:56 AM

Not to pile on, but the horns are lame. I understand that it's cool to act like you're not trying, but actually not trying is weak. I love the western and livestock heritage of Fort Worth, but crossing the T&P has to evoke something more than a ribbon of horns.



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Posted 12 March 2015 - 07:55 PM

How about letting the bridge and road design speak for itself?  


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Posted 16 March 2015 - 03:43 PM

They've got flags down marking the whole things, you can see how nice the sidewalks will be already.

 

Does anyone know what will be done with the land on either side of the tunnel? Will it be sold off or developed? Would be strange to have a tunnel just going into a field. 

 

Also saw the groundbreaking was pushed back due to weather, now April 8th. 



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Posted 16 March 2015 - 03:59 PM

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South Main appears to be exploding now with activity with the complete streets... I wonder if this will have any effect on Hemphill or Vickery nearby?


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Posted 16 March 2015 - 04:01 PM

How about letting the bridge and road design speak for itself?


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Posted 09 April 2015 - 08:55 AM

S-T article on the official groundbreaking of the Hemphill-Lamar Connector project. Looks like a 2 year timeframe for completion. The traffic lanes are going to be 12 feet wide, maybe this is to accommodate future streetcar tracks. I'm a little surprised that adding additional rail capacity above the tunnel, either for the UP freight operations or for a commuter rail line extension, was not included as part of the project. 

 

http://www.star-tele...le17898095.html



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Posted 09 April 2015 - 09:15 AM

....The traffic lanes are going to be 12 feet wide, maybe this is to accommodate future streetcar tracks....

 

The opening of this new connector might then allow for the re-purposing of the Jennings Street tunnel to serve as a transit corridor.



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Posted 09 April 2015 - 10:12 AM

I suppose that would work if the streetcar went down Jennings St. south of Vickery. That would keep the trains from interfering with car traffic on Hemphill and maybe spur more urban "Uptown-like" development there. I seem to remember that the Jennings tunnel is prone to floods during heavy rains, maybe  the drainage there could be addressed if tracks were added.



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Posted 09 April 2015 - 03:49 PM

As far as I know, 12-foot lanes are just a standard lane width the city uses these days (even when not necessarily needed).  I do not think it has anything to do with any future transit lines (also, South Main is already being reconstructed with streetcar-friendly road beds).


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Posted 12 April 2015 - 08:34 PM

I don't know if any of you have ever noticed, but the portion under I-30 was built into that roadway expansion.  I thought there was a bridge there, and I confirmed this weekend by looking at Google Maps and I drove it today, and as I was going eastbound from the entrance ramp at Henderson, I could see the stakes leading to a bridge already constructed.  They still have to go under the railroad tracks, but they were there before the idea of connecting Lamar and Hemphill were ever imagined.



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Posted 22 August 2015 - 10:09 PM

Here's another look at the proposed Dan Corson artwork

 

 

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Posted 24 August 2015 - 11:19 AM

Here's another look at the proposed Dan Corson artwork

 

 

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I don't know how to feel about this...

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Posted 24 August 2015 - 11:43 AM

I'm not impressed.


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Posted 25 August 2015 - 05:58 AM

It looks like a string of longhorns swaying in the wind.



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Posted 25 August 2015 - 06:31 AM

If they actually swayed in the wind that might be cool, but they statically look like they're swaying in the wind (from the look of the picture).
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Posted 25 August 2015 - 08:33 AM

Albino/aged  handlebar moustaches?



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Posted 25 August 2015 - 09:07 AM

It had been my impression that the piece was to run under the bridge. That appears to no longer be the case.  Compared to the earlier renderings, it looks like it's been pretty radically scaled down.


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Posted 25 August 2015 - 09:19 AM

Maybe they still will, this is just from the public art page and I couldn't find any  more info.



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Posted 25 August 2015 - 09:47 AM

The rendering you posted earlier this year in this thread:

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Posted 25 August 2015 - 09:50 AM

Any time that a city can encourage interest/reaction to a piece of public art is a positive outcome.  I believe that the connector + art will become a regularly visited and photographed destination - the more the oddity, the greater the curiosity.  Could this be a moment when Fort Worth out does Austin, TX at weirdness? :swg:

 

I will wait for the 3D view to form my own feelings.



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Posted 25 August 2015 - 10:04 AM

The rendering you posted earlier this year in this thread:

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That's the one. The new rendering shows it shorter, not extending under the bridges, and also not suspended from them - instead, it's just mounted on poles in the median.

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 07:22 AM

Looks like a millicow...the unholy and forbidden genetic mixture of a millipede and a cow (I'm pitching this concept to the SciFi channel).  I foresee pairs of old shoes tied together at the laces and thrown onto the horns in honor of special occasions like graduations.  If we are looking for cow concept art, I recommend they put, at the entrance to a tunnel, something that looks like a giant Cadillac hood with gigantic horns, which could shoot fireworks and scare drivers whenever the Rangers or Cats hit a homerun.  Or, someone could do a Cadillac Ranch type thing with some giant cows buried face-first or bottom-first, sticking out of the dirt.



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Posted 26 August 2015 - 09:08 AM

I kind of like it.



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Posted 29 October 2015 - 03:15 PM

Overbudget.

 

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Posted 10 November 2015 - 01:08 AM

Going on hold?
 

Fort Worth’s Hemphill Connector will likely be put on hold while the city looks into how to handle significantly higher costs than were projected.


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Posted 10 November 2015 - 09:00 AM

The S-T's summary sounds a lot more doom and gloom about the future of the connector.

http://www.star-tele...le44013303.html

This is going to sound a bit reactionary and knee-jerkish, but somebody's head needs to roll for so grossly underestimating the cost of the project and the potential millions of dollars flushed down the drain if the project is cancelled. I get that the economy has improved and construction in general has increased, but the math between a national average increase in construction costs of 5.5% and a 68% in the cost of this project doesn't quite match up.

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Posted 10 November 2015 - 10:06 AM

Look for the owner of the T&P Warehouse to use this as another excuse.



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Posted 10 November 2015 - 11:41 AM

An easy way to save some money would be to make the auto lanes 10 ft. instead of 12 ft.  For 4 lanes of traffic, that would mean you only need to build a 40 ft tunnel instead of 48 ft.  That's a 16% reduction.

 

Obviously there's more that goes into the total tunnel width than that, but for a slow speed road, there is no need for the wider lanes.



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Posted 11 November 2015 - 09:02 AM


An easy way to save some money would be to make the auto lanes 10 ft. instead of 12 ft.

 


The extra width is needed for the longhorn cattle drives which are the lifeblood of our city's economy.
 



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Posted 11 November 2015 - 10:27 AM

The extra width is needed for the longhorn cattle drives which are the lifeblood of our city's economy.

 

 And your "pie in the sky" lifeblood of our city's economy to supplant  the "cattle drives imaginary" is?

 

I find walking a high wire without a reliable safety net is foolish.



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Posted 12 November 2015 - 09:50 AM

This project has been in various stages of planning and inaction since 2004. Putting a consultant on it at this late date seems sort of dumb. The project needs to be finished, with new contractors and new bids if necessary, but the process needs to be reviewed to find out what happened to cause this screw-up. My outside/uninformed guess is that it is related to "taking one's eye off the ball" which is easy to do given the long. dragged out nature of this project. Consider how many city employees involved with this project might have retired, been transferred, promoted, moved on, or even died since the inception, and new personnel unfamiliar with the project details might have been distracted by other, more pressing concerns... my point is that once a project is approved and funded the city needs to "get 'er done" without allowing time for price increases, real or manipulated, to slip in. I may be wrong but this seems like a fairly straightforward project involving three phases, unlike ongoing long term things like water/sewer or general street maintenance. 

 

This is an important project, it was approved and funded by the voters' suck it up, get it finished, find out what went wrong, fix the system.



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Posted 12 November 2015 - 04:38 PM

 

Going on hold?
 

Fort Worth’s Hemphill Connector will likely be put on hold while the city looks into how to handle significantly higher costs than were projected.

 

 

 

The S-T's summary sounds a lot more doom and gloom about the future of the connector.

http://www.star-tele...le44013303.html

This is going to sound a bit reactionary and knee-jerkish, but somebody's head needs to roll for so grossly underestimating the cost of the project and the potential millions of dollars flushed down the drain if the project is cancelled. I get that the economy has improved and construction in general has increased, but the math between a national average increase in construction costs of 5.5% and a 68% in the cost of this project doesn't quite match up.

 

Well on the plus side, it'll give them time to reconsider that "art work" they planed for it...


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Posted 15 February 2016 - 11:07 PM

ST has an update

 

http://www.star-tele...le60528431.html



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Posted 16 February 2016 - 09:22 PM

Sounds like a white knight may come to the rescue.


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Posted 05 March 2016 - 10:25 AM

Ramon Romero was on 97.5 talking about the connector. Sounds like they've found someone to fund it but didn't really give any other information. 



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Posted 16 March 2016 - 10:00 AM

City Council approved the two amendments to the contract with McCarthy Building Companies. Sounds like things are getting back on track. Link.



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Posted 17 March 2016 - 11:35 AM

Toll-tunnel?



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Posted 22 March 2016 - 12:10 PM

Toll-tunnel?

 

EXPRESS!


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Posted 22 March 2016 - 01:47 PM

With confusing signs!



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Posted 19 August 2016 - 09:11 AM

City Council approved the two amendments to the contract with McCarthy Building Companies. Sounds like things are getting back on track. Link.

 

So where does this stand?


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Posted 05 September 2016 - 08:21 AM

Looks like funding from RTC is up for for vote on Thursday

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 09:07 AM

Looks like funding from RTC is up for for vote on Thursday

 

Fingers crossed... It really is a good project with demonstrable traffic benefits. Too bad some sort of tie-in with a future streetcar system isn't included, but an unused median or increased height to accommodate electrical wires would most likely raise the cost of the project enough to cause second thoughts on the part of the RTC members, or even third thoughts for that matter.



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Posted 28 September 2016 - 08:08 AM

I spoke with a reliable source this week that said this project isn't dead. Financing has been pieced together and it will happen.



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Posted 16 January 2017 - 09:57 AM

Past two times I've been by in recent weeks there's been some activity at the site. Guys in high vis vests and two or three bulldozers.

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Posted 16 January 2017 - 03:48 PM

Sounds encouraging.


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Posted 17 February 2017 - 10:51 PM

From upcoming council agenda

 

 

t is recommended that the City Council: 

1.  Authorize the execution of Amendment No. 7 to City Secretary Contract No. 35341, an Engineering Services Agreement with Transystems Corporation Consultants in the amount not to exceed $159,081.00 for the final design and provide construction phase services for Hemphill Street from Lancaster Avenue to Vickery Boulevard for a revised contract amount not to exceed $1,392,934.25; and

2.  Authorize the execution of a Railroad Underpass Agreement with the Union Pacific Railroad Company for the City-managed construction of Hemphill Street from Lancaster Avenue to Vickery Boulevard at a cost to the City not to exceed $4,300,000.00 (City Project No. C00141).

http://apps.fortwort...ldate=2/21/2017

 

 

 

 It is anticipated construction will start in the summer of 2017 with a 30 month duration.


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Posted 17 February 2017 - 11:26 PM

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Posted 20 February 2017 - 02:44 AM

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Hopefully without interruptions...

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Posted 20 February 2017 - 03:24 PM

Don't get your hopes up *too* high.


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