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#1 TXKing

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Posted 16 June 2005 - 09:10 PM

Hi,
I have read the Gangsters & Gamblers of Jacksboro highway and live in the area. I was hoping that someone on this forum might have more details they could share?

thanks, Laura

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Posted 16 June 2005 - 09:55 PM

I don't have more details to share, but I can welcome you to the forum. I'm sure some others have a few stories.

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Posted 17 June 2005 - 08:09 AM

Alls I know is that the history is very rich. Very rich indeed. :ph34r:

Fw was a big player back in those days. Gamblin, bootleggin, and all sorts of OG (Original Gangsta) stuff.

You could probably get more info. from City Vending. :D
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Posted 17 June 2005 - 08:04 PM

The River Oaks Historical Society has the best information. They have a small Web site, but they would rather you come to their meetings.

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Posted 17 June 2005 - 10:46 PM

My father knew some of the men that are mentioned in that book. Alot of them were in the vending business....very interesting times. He was about 18 at the time and saw a few "capers" as he called it...

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Posted 19 June 2005 - 06:14 PM

Hi John, thanks for the welcome. You don't be chance practice real estate with Prudential do you?

I don't have more details to share, but I can welcome you to the forum.  I'm sure some others have a few stories.

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Posted 19 June 2005 - 06:20 PM

I was particulary interested in a home at 5409 Jacksboro highway that is mentioned in the Gangsters & Gamblers book - I believe it was at one time the home of Helen Hutt? I can't remember for sure. It is a very large home, and because I love this stuff I just wondered if it really had a gambling facility? Or are there any other homes in the the area that did and are they still standing? Our neighbors were remodeling their home and when they removed some ceiling tiles they found playing cards, dice etc. in the ceiling. The person who had lived in this house years ago supposed had to leave the country for several years do to a murder or two he committed. This fascinates me to no end :blink:

Alls I know is that the history is very rich. Very rich indeed. :ph34r:

Fw was a big player back in those days. Gamblin, bootleggin, and all sorts of OG (Original Gangsta)  stuff.

You could probably get more info. from City Vending.  :blink:

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Posted 19 June 2005 - 06:21 PM

I meant to ask, who or what is City Vending?

Alls I know is that the history is very rich. Very rich indeed. :ph34r:

Fw was a big player back in those days. Gamblin, bootleggin, and all sorts of OG (Original Gangsta)  stuff.

You could probably get more info. from City Vending.  :blink:

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Posted 19 June 2005 - 09:17 PM

City Vending is the "mob" of the vending world. They deal in jukeboxes, pinballs, pool tables, cigarette machines and just about anything they can think of...if they get in your establishment and you become their account...they will own you...I know this because my Family's business is a competitor of theirs.. Most of the people that were the gansters of the day were in vending..it was a very good business...back in the day...A man who is in that book had a house over in rivercrest and the wallpaper was made of gold....NO LIE....24k gold weave in the design......

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Posted 20 June 2005 - 11:36 PM

You mean that I have supported the FW underworld all along with my Golden Tee addiction from the past? :o

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Posted 21 June 2005 - 08:03 AM

Y yes you have..and you didnt even know it!! :wacko: Acutally its not as bad now as it use to be...City Vending excluded from that of course.... :o

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Posted 08 January 2006 - 11:12 PM

I have lots of information on crime on the Jacksboro hwy...more than
I have time to tell.

Just let me say briefly (maybe more later) that central to it all was
the FOUR DEUCES at 2222 Jacksboro Highway. It was an infamous
private gambling spot operated by Pat Kirkwood (owner of The Cellar
downtown) for the benefit of the rich and famous like Amon Carter,
Sid Richardson, H.L.Hunt, John Connally, LBJ, Sam Rayburn and most
of the local rich. Despite being illegal, it was allowed to operate
freely by local law groups...in fact employed FW police as security
guards. The police were also given costly gifts such as liquor
and turkeys in return for silence. Some researchers of the JFK
assassination believe that the assassination was planned at the
Four Deuces by LBJ and his rich cronies.

Much local crime was centered around the Jacksboro strip joints
such as the Skyliner and Rocket Club, and many murders took
place in the vicinity...involving Tincy Eggleston, DeLois Green
Herbert the cat Noble, and others.

Jack

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Posted 09 January 2006 - 08:43 AM

QUOTE(Jack White @ Jan 9 2006, 01:12 AM) View Post

I have lots of information on crime on the Jacksboro hwy...more than
I have time to tell.

Just let me say briefly (maybe more later) that central to it all was
the FOUR DEUCES at 2222 Jacksboro Highway. It was an infamous
private gambling spot operated by Pat Kirkwood (owner of The Cellar
downtown) for the benefit of the rich and famous like Amon Carter,
Sid Richardson, H.L.Hunt, John Connally, LBJ, Sam Rayburn and most
of the local rich. Despite being illegal, it was allowed to operate
freely by local law groups...in fact employed FW police as security
guards. The police were also given costly gifts such as liquor
and turkeys in return for silence. Some researchers of the JFK
assassination believe that the assassination was planned at the
Four Deuces by LBJ and his rich cronies.

Much local crime was centered around the Jacksboro strip joints
such as the Skyliner and Rocket Club, and many murders took
place in the vicinity...involving Tincy Eggleston, DeLois Green
Herbert the cat Noble, and others.

Jack



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Posted 09 January 2006 - 08:46 AM

The Fort Worth Public Library has a collection from the Rocket Club. It consists of candid photographs of the customers and publicity photographs of the various acts. The most interesting item is a memori from the head waitress which has information on a protection racket and other interesting tidbits.

Max

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Posted 10 January 2006 - 02:13 AM

What is Gangsters and Gamblers of Jacksboro Hwy? Is it a book or an article? I would be interested in reading it. Would also be interested in more info on City Vending. Are they still in business? Who actually owned or owns the business? I grew up in FW in the 50's and 60's, and it seems like I remember something about a gambling joint that had a fairly high class clientele that operated for a while and was finally shuttered in the 60's. Was that the 2222?

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Posted 10 January 2006 - 08:09 AM

QUOTE(austlar @ Jan 10 2006, 04:13 AM) View Post

What is Gangsters and Gamblers of Jacksboro Hwy? Is it a book or an article? I would be interested in reading it. Would also be interested in more info on City Vending. Are they still in business? Who actually owned or owns the business? I grew up in FW in the 50's and 60's, and it seems like I remember something about a gambling joint that had a fairly high class clientele that operated for a while and was finally shuttered in the 60's. Was that the 2222?


It's a book, of course right now I can't come up with the author's name. I've only read bits and pieces but it is very interesting about that part of our history. If you're in this area, it shouldn't be hard to find at all.

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Posted 10 January 2006 - 10:13 AM

author's name = Ann Arnold. I think most book stores will have it.

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Posted 03 March 2006 - 02:34 PM

QUOTE(courtnie @ Jun 17 2005, 10:46 PM) View Post

My father knew some of the men that are mentioned in that book. Alot of them were in the vending business....very interesting times. He was about 18 at the time and saw a few "capers" as he called it...

I am doing a project on Jacksboro Hwy in the 40's and 50's. Do you think he would be willing to help me find some people to talk to or talk to me himself. Please let me know it would be much appreciated.

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Posted 03 March 2006 - 02:37 PM

QUOTE(mhill @ Jan 9 2006, 08:43 AM) View Post

QUOTE(Jack White @ Jan 9 2006, 01:12 AM) View Post

I have lots of information on crime on the Jacksboro hwy...more than
I have time to tell.

Just let me say briefly (maybe more later) that central to it all was
the FOUR DEUCES at 2222 Jacksboro Highway. It was an infamous
private gambling spot operated by Pat Kirkwood (owner of The Cellar
downtown) for the benefit of the rich and famous like Amon Carter,
Sid Richardson, H.L.Hunt, John Connally, LBJ, Sam Rayburn and most
of the local rich. Despite being illegal, it was allowed to operate
freely by local law groups...in fact employed FW police as security
guards. The police were also given costly gifts such as liquor
and turkeys in return for silence. Some researchers of the JFK
assassination believe that the assassination was planned at the
Four Deuces by LBJ and his rich cronies.

Much local crime was centered around the Jacksboro strip joints
such as the Skyliner and Rocket Club, and many murders took
place in the vicinity...involving Tincy Eggleston, DeLois Green
Herbert the cat Noble, and others.

Jack


Would you be willing to talk with me, I am doing a project on gamblers and gangsters in the 40's and 50's?

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Posted 04 March 2006 - 07:12 PM

QUOTE(Derik @ Mar 3 2006, 02:37 PM) View Post

QUOTE(mhill @ Jan 9 2006, 08:43 AM) View Post

QUOTE(Jack White @ Jan 9 2006, 01:12 AM) View Post

I have lots of information on crime on the Jacksboro hwy...more than
I have time to tell.

Just let me say briefly (maybe more later) that central to it all was
the FOUR DEUCES at 2222 Jacksboro Highway. It was an infamous
private gambling spot operated by Pat Kirkwood (owner of The Cellar
downtown) for the benefit of the rich and famous like Amon Carter,
Sid Richardson, H.L.Hunt, John Connally, LBJ, Sam Rayburn and most
of the local rich. Despite being illegal, it was allowed to operate
freely by local law groups...in fact employed FW police as security
guards. The police were also given costly gifts such as liquor
and turkeys in return for silence. Some researchers of the JFK
assassination believe that the assassination was planned at the
Four Deuces by LBJ and his rich cronies.

Much local crime was centered around the Jacksboro strip joints
such as the Skyliner and Rocket Club, and many murders took
place in the vicinity...involving Tincy Eggleston, DeLois Green
Herbert the cat Noble, and others.

Jack


Would you be willing to talk with me, I am doing a project on gamblers and gangsters in the 40's and 50's?


Hi there...sorry I have been out-of-town for several days. The person
you should talk to about this is Jim Marrs, veteran newsman and author.
Email Jim at:

jmarrs@ntws.net

Also try Googling Fort Worth Crime Jacksboro 2222 Club, Skyliner.

Jack



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Posted 22 March 2006 - 07:26 AM

QUOTE(mhill @ Jan 9 2006, 08:46 AM) View Post

The Fort Worth Public Library has a collection from the Rocket Club. It consists of candid photographs of the customers and publicity photographs of the various acts. The most interesting item is a memori from the head waitress which has information on a protection racket and other interesting tidbits.

Max


How would you go about finding that stuff? It's been a long time since I've been to the downbtown Library.


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Posted 22 March 2006 - 04:44 PM

The local history section is in the basement towards the west end of the building. One of the staff posts on here from time to time and he and all of the staffers are very helpful and knowledgeable. They got some great stuff down there. Worth a trip.


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Posted 23 March 2006 - 12:13 AM

I am looking for information about a motel or fish camp at the corner of jacks boro hwy and surf side. It is at 7601 jacksboro hwy on the road that goes to casino beach. Anyone know the orginal name are anything else about it. It has recently been turned into a conveniance story Ellie

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Posted 23 March 2006 - 12:17 AM

Sorry I really can spell store. The motel was built around 1934.

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Posted 16 June 2006 - 11:04 AM

For those who have read Gangsters & Gamblers of Jacksboro highway, one of the oringinal players is in the obits today. EARNEST "E.C." HARRIS Titled Family says man had changed. In the STelegram

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Posted 18 July 2006 - 11:34 PM

I read in the ft worth weekly that 2 time wsop poker champ Doyle Brunson started out playing high stakes on jacksboro hwy and that he knew tincy and played in 1 of his poker rooms on exchange st. He even mentioned how dangerous it was in the begining of his super system poker book.

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 01:52 PM

Hi Laura,
My name is Bob Atkinson, i was actualy born at 2222 Jacksboro Highway in 1961, we have some old photoes of the house, & film of the garden & inside 2222, my dad unfortunately died in 1986, but my mum could try and answer any questions you may have.
If you are interested, give me a call, i would love to chat with you about this.
Bob Atkinson.
P.S, We naw live in Suffolk, England, oh haw i mis America!!!

QUOTE (TXKing @ Jun 16 2005, 09:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi,
I have read the Gangsters & Gamblers of Jacksboro highway and live in the area. I was hoping that someone on this forum might have more details they could share?

thanks, Laura



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Posted 07 February 2008 - 04:06 AM

QUOTE (TXKing @ Jun 16 2005, 09:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi,
I have read the Gangsters & Gamblers of Jacksboro highway and live in the area. I was hoping that someone on this forum might have more details they could share?

thanks, Laura



Hi Laura, i dont know if you would be interested, but i was actualy born at 2222 Jacksboro Highway, where all that happened, my mum & dad are originaly from England, where i am naw, i was actualy born at 2222 Jacksboro Highway, in October 3rd 1961, me, my mum & dad left for Lompoc in California where we lived until 1973, my dad was working in the aircraft industry, he worked with Lockheeds, & also wokedin prison rehabilitation.
I can find some pictures of 2222 Jacksboro Highway if you are interested.
Well, would love to have a reply from you, take care.Bob Atkinsons e- mail address.
Bob Atkinson.


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Posted 07 February 2008 - 04:32 AM

QUOTE (Derik @ Mar 3 2006, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (courtnie @ Jun 17 2005, 10:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

My father knew some of the men that are mentioned in that book. Alot of them were in the vending business....very interesting times. He was about 18 at the time and saw a few "capers" as he called it...

I am doing a project on Jacksboro Hwy in the 40's and 50's. Do you think he would be willing to help me find some people to talk to or talk to me himself. Please let me know it would be much appreciated.


Hi,
My name is Bob, i was actually born at 2222 Jacksboro Highway, 3/10/1961, my mum & dad knew the people who owned the big house next door & 2222, they say they where very nice people & actually used to look after our dog some times!
My mum & dad have good memories of 2222 & the owners of the big house next door, & ran the gambling & Ladies stuff, we naw live in Suffolk England, my mum & dad's birth place, if you are intrested, i might be able to send you some old pictures of 2222,
Hope to here from you soon, take care,
Bob Atkinson.

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Posted 07 February 2008 - 04:35 AM

SOMEBODY! PLEASE answer BOB! madgo.gif
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Posted 07 February 2008 - 10:05 AM

QUOTE (texanbob2you @ Feb 7 2008, 04:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi,
My name is Bob, i was actually born at 2222 Jacksboro Highway, 3/10/1961, my mum & dad knew the people who owned the big house next door & 2222, they say they where very nice people & actually used to look after our dog some times!
My mum & dad have good memories of 2222 & the owners of the big house next door, & ran the gambling & Ladies stuff, we naw live in Suffolk England, my mum & dad's birth place, if you are intrested, i might be able to send you some old pictures of 2222,
Hope to here from you soon, take care,
Bob Atkinson.


So,Bob,does everyone in Suffolk,England call you Texan Bob?
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