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#751 Austin55

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Posted 16 February 2018 - 02:48 PM

The BOA docket was posted, seems to just be half of the block and only an office building.

 

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Posted 16 February 2018 - 09:00 PM

I'm not sure who "they" is, but hotels have always been in the plans.  The Kimbell's issue was not with the Renovo brand or that it was a hotel, but with the fact that the building could be seen from inside the museum space.

 

"They" as in the Cultural District. 

Just seemed like Renovo did everything they wanted and jumped through every single hoop to make this happen, and it still got canned.  


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Posted 17 February 2018 - 02:10 PM

The view from the Kimball was concerning. The view from the Carter was not obstructed at all. I've heard Renovo is looking for another site in FW, glad that we haven't completely run them off.

Maybe they can build in Left Bank where that proposed hotel seems to be struggling to get off the ground.

Hotel Renovos first rendering with 12 stories would be awesome there IMHO.

If not there then maybe the Upper Westside

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 02:12 PM

The BOA docket was posted, seems to just be half of the block and only an office building.
 
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Where exactly is this located? Next to Great outdoors or the Hotel Renovo site?

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 04:06 PM

Behind/West of Great Outdoors. It only takes up about half the block.



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Posted 22 March 2018 - 03:36 PM

The other half of the block (east of Van Cliburn) is now proposed to be a 5 floor hotel. The office is develment is hoping to break ground around years end. Hotel could start summer 2019.

 

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Posted 22 March 2018 - 08:14 PM

...seems like they could have oriented it to where the hotel faces the museums, but I guess it's ok as long as we get a hotel there.


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Posted 22 March 2018 - 08:20 PM

After the recent hotel / museum fiasco, I'm not getting my hopes up yet. There's still time for someone to ruin this.


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Posted 23 March 2018 - 07:50 AM

After the recent hotel / museum fiasco, I'm not getting my hopes up yet. There's still time for someone to ruin this.

 

This hotel, while certainly not a guarantee, would not face the same height/view obstacles. This hotel is only proposed to be 5 story in height at this time and the neighboring office buildings have approval to be built up to 9 story (4 levels of parking, 5 levels of office space).



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Posted 23 March 2018 - 07:53 AM

Also, this phase of the development is further to the northeast and away from the Kimbell.  I feel there won't be as much opposition, if any. 



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Posted 23 March 2018 - 08:26 AM

I wish I shared your optimism on that.



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Posted 23 March 2018 - 11:05 AM

Instead of a decent looking hotel over the Kimball it looks like an awkward parking garage looming over the Modern.

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Posted 23 March 2018 - 12:10 PM

The Renovo developers did not purchase the land. 

There did appear to be greater concerns about the developer and their follow through on promises made however all people involved were very politely vague so I'm not sure which areas of concern (height/massing, design, something else?) but the concerns must have been significant for City officials to push back, since they had already gone through the econ development process of providing incentives.  The developer, ultimately, dropped this.  The City didn't shut them down.  I don't know any specifics however it does appear that this developer had some challenges carrying out the level and type of hotel that this kind of site really required.  Check out thei Heart of America Hotels web site.  HOA has historically done limited service suburban hotels.  VERY different that what they were talking about for this site.  I do think they were given the benefit of the doubt that they could execute until late in the process.

 

The hotel on the east side of Van Cliburn is entirely different.  That was proposed as an Aloft hotel a few years back and appears to still be earmarked as something similar.  The office building appears to share a parking garage with the hotel (which would be smaller, limited service - not big enough to have meeting rooms, ballroom, etc that a full service hotel typically requires).

 

Hopefully a really strong hotel developer will come in and buy the site where Renovo was planned.  A hotel that, like the South Congress Hotel or 21C hotels, that is distinctive and appropriate for its adjacency to such important art and architecture.



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Posted 24 March 2018 - 07:55 AM

Considering just how important "they" are -- the museums, that is -- they should hold sway in managing the gentrification facing this slice of town.

 

I don't really get the sense municipal leaders have a handle on how vast the change will be.The pending wave of commercialization, tourism and population growth will render the area unrecognizable from the turn of the century. The universities medical school is going to blossom into much bigger deal and making sure that neighborhood catalyst/motivator rolls over the neighborhood toward Montgomery Plaza in the most polite way is critical and as much fun as pulling teeth. Dickie's Stadium leads the transformation of The Will Rogers Complex hopefully into a year round destination for a greater variety and number of events.

 

The museums and cultural entities are the keystone species in the neighborhood environment sandwiched between two others poised for dramatic growth, healthcare and exposition. I don't care if the push back is so hardcore developers get bruised or hustled out of the game; the museums are a constant, "world class" presence and must be treated as such. 







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