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#401 BlueMound

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Posted 02 June 2017 - 12:17 AM

New Tim Love rooftop cafe-bar to open atop Stockyards-area hotel
http://www.dfw.com/2...ar-to-open.html

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Posted 07 October 2017 - 04:07 PM

In intereesting bit from the Pre-Council agenda, but no more information

 

 

 

Presentation on Proposed Armour Hotel Economic Development Program Agreement (Michael Hennig, Economic Development)


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Posted 10 October 2017 - 06:38 PM

Details on the Armour Hotel with a rendering at the end of the story:

http://www.star-tele...e178176116.html

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 07:28 PM

Looks alright. Really curious how it'll fit in with the rest of the area.

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 07:39 PM

I'm OK with it.  The hotel should fit in.



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Posted 10 October 2017 - 08:16 PM

...not too in love with the design, but it works.


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Posted 10 October 2017 - 11:02 PM

The hotel building pictured should be set back and a replica of the historic Armour Office Building, similar to the Swift Office Building, should be placed there. It could house reception, food service, a lounge, etc. with a connection to the hotel proper behind it.



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Posted 11 October 2017 - 07:17 AM

The hotel building pictured should be set back and a replica of the historic Armour Office Building, similar to the Swift Office Building, should be placed there. It could house reception, food service, a lounge, etc. with a connection to the hotel proper behind it.

 

Why?


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Posted 11 October 2017 - 08:17 AM

RD, wouldn't building a replica of something that was demolished long ago, contribute to the "Disneyland" effect that most of the people involved in saving the Stockyards (including the Murrins) have tried to keep from happening?



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Posted 11 October 2017 - 11:25 AM

I'm OK with it.  The hotel should fit in.

 

I guess my concern is that 120 rooms + 40 employees = a lot of folks parking = a big ol surface lot. It's not to huge a deal in the Stockyards I guess, but Exchange Ave ought to be a nice area and easily walkable for the guests staying and visiting. 



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Posted 11 October 2017 - 12:14 PM

Like most have stated... it isn’t terrible but it isn’t a standout design either. Not that it has to be, but it the end it works well enough and it will serve it’s purpose.

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Posted 11 October 2017 - 12:15 PM

Austin55, do you know who the architects are for this project?



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Posted 11 October 2017 - 12:16 PM

I am also perplexed about the progress of the Majestic’s redevelopment plan. I drive around the area often and I’m not seeing any work or progress being made other than the demolition of the ruins and some framing in Mule Alley that has been at the same stage for a few months now.

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Posted 11 October 2017 - 12:20 PM

Austin55, do you know who the architects are for this project?

 

I do not.



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Posted 11 October 2017 - 03:20 PM

Has the way that the parking needs will be addressed outlined?



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Posted 17 October 2017 - 11:41 AM

I like it!

 

I think it looks like something out of the Jack White photo collection.



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Posted 17 October 2017 - 09:55 PM

RD, wouldn't building a replica of something that was demolished long ago, contribute to the "Disneyland" effect that most of the people involved in saving the Stockyards (including the Murrins) have tried to keep from happening?

 

No I don't think so. Disneyland is make-believe built on green fields; The building I referenced was once there, destroyed in a fire I believe, and along with the bookend Swift building across the street was an integral part of the initial design of the stockyards complex.



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Posted 17 October 2017 - 10:13 PM

One step closer;   and it will look nice but the parking scheme could be improved by the addition of a two-level garage below or above grade.  Why isn't more emphasis given to veil pools of cars -

 

http://www.fortworth...4ce96e318f.html



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Posted 18 October 2017 - 11:56 AM

I agree rename... I think open parking lots really take away from a building like this.

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Posted 21 October 2017 - 09:26 AM

Quick work on the Stockyards Hotel @ Swift site.  I like what I am hearing but there needs to be a "Cultural District-like Parking Solution", aka a garage built nearby.  My suggestion for the garage would be the surface lot just east of Stockyards Station.

 

http://www.fortworth...2762499e50.html



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Posted 22 October 2017 - 08:34 AM

Quick work on the Stockyards Hotel @ Swift site.  I like what I am hearing but there needs to be a "Cultural District-like Parking Solution", aka a garage built nearby.  My suggestion for the garage would be the surface lot just east of Stockyards Station.
 
http://www.fortworth...2762499e50.html


Beware of Greeks bearing gifts. A stand alone parking garage in the Stockyards will most likely introduce paid parking. A parking garage built for the hotel and for its customers only, should be attached to the hotel, and ran by the hotel any way it chooses. I’m in favor of free public parking in the Stockyards so more tourists can afford to go there.

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Posted 22 October 2017 - 10:30 AM

I would like to clarify and correct some things.  The new Stockyards Hotel is being built on the old Armour Meatpacking Plant Site, not the Swift Site.  The developers of the hotel are naming it the Armour Hotel after its location.  These developers are local and they are part of the group that fought Majestic and their development and pressed for a local historic district.

 

Majestic Realty and the Hickman Family represent the larger developers who own a great deal of the Stockyards acreage and the old Swift Meatpacking Plant Site, the cattle pens, and most of the parking lots.  The city has given them large incentives to redevelop the area.  They also own the Mule Barns.  They do not own the former Swift & Co. Office Building.  XTO sold that property earlier this year in a part of their relocating their headquarters. 



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Posted 22 October 2017 - 12:26 PM

Beware of Greeks bearing gifts. A stand alone parking garage in the Stockyards will most likely introduce paid parking. A parking garage built for the hotel and for its customers only, should be attached to the hotel, and ran by the hotel any way it chooses. I’m in favor of free public parking in the Stockyards so more tourists can afford to go there.

 

 Paid parking in the Stockyards currently and already exists.  Free parking is available at certain times.  A multi-level, premium parking garage could increase the availability of parking and provide cover for cars from the heat and other weather events for drivers who want or need a premium car service.   The hotel needs only to contract with a publicly or Stockyard owned garage for spaces that it needs for its guests.

 

Of course, if Tarrant Express had built a "proper" Stockyard Station and for which some vigorously argued against, addressing future parking needs would be greatly different.  But there is a possible silver lining that may come of this subject - a future core transit network will certainly include the Stockyards.

 

Paid parking at an affordable rate will not, IMO, harm tourism at the Stockyards.



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Posted 01 November 2017 - 04:08 PM

The Stockyards visitor center has moved. It is now in the Cowboy Hall of Fame Lobby.



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Posted 08 November 2017 - 04:10 PM

The senseless bickering over Billy Bob's continues:

http://www.star-tele...e183510371.html

I'm assuming that place is a factory to print money. I wonder how much of it they've flushed down the toilet in this ordeal.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 08:44 PM

Some changes are being proposed on E Exchange Ave.

The street will removed, the bricks cleaned and reset. A few trees and plantings will be added, along with street lights. Some cattle troughs will be repurposed as benches. 10 months construction is expected.

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 01:43 PM

This is much needed in my opinion. It is the showcase thoroughfare and it needs to start looking more like it.

One thing I noticed on my last visit to the area a couple of weeks back... the street in between the coliseum and the stockyards indoor mall has a lot of potential as a outdoor pedestrian strip. It is completely underutilized in its current state. I dont recall if the new redevelopment plans call for any improvements.

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 06:40 PM

Will it become pedestrian only?


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Posted 14 February 2018 - 07:31 PM

PeopleAreStrange, I believe the street will still be open to traffic.  The sidewalks will also be paved in brick.  Both parts of the project are needed due to the uneven sidewalks and the condition of the brick street. 



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Posted 24 February 2018 - 04:06 PM

Here's a site plan submitted to the City Plan commission. Building #2 is the previously discussed Armour Hotel. However, it does not sound like the waiver requested will pass and have been recommended for denial.

 

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In May 2017 the City Council adopted the Stockyards Form-Based Code and Design Guidelines (Stockyards FBC) encompassing 300 acres in the Stockyards area. City Council adopted form based codes and/or design overlay zoning districts containing a regulating plan, street cross sections, or streetscape standards are incorporated by reference as if fully set forth in the Subdivision Ordinance and shall apply to those areas zoned with the appropriate zoning suffix. [Subdivision Ordinance Chapter 31-81.b.5] The intent of the Stockyards FBC is to balance historic preservation and development. The Stockyards FBC includes traditional subdivision standards such as street and block patterns as well as design elements such as building heights and setbacks. The Urban Design Commission (UDC) addresses design elements and any related waivers from the Stockyards FBC. The City Plan Commission addresses development elements and any related waivers. This case is the first preliminary plat submitted within the area regulated by the Stockyards FBC. This site is vacant except for one remaining building which is located at the northeast corner of Exchange Avenue and Stockyards Boulevard in the “SY-HCO” Historic Core zoned portion of the site. The applicant is proposing eight commercial blocks. The applicant has requested an economic development agreement with the City of Fort Worth for the Armour Hotel which is proposed in Lot 1 of Block 1R-2 near the southwest corner of the plat. This hotel is anticipated to be the first phase of the development. The Preliminary Plat as submitted requires both design and development waivers from the Stockyards FBC. At the February 22 meeting, the UDC continued their consideration of two design waivers and consideration of recommendations to the City Plan Commission for approval of three development waivers. Based on the current submittal, the following three development waivers are required: 1. Approval of a waiver to allow two deviations from the Future Streets and Pathways Map [Stockyards FBC Div.8.2]; 2. Approval of a waiver to allow block face(s) that exceed the maximum 500-fool block face allowed [Stockyard Yards FBC Div. 8.1.1]; and 3. Approval of a waiver to allow block perimeter(s) that exceed the maximum 1,600- foot allowed [Stockyard Yards FBC Div. 8.1.1]. The applicant has request a 30-day continuance of the City Plan Commission’s consideration of this Preliminary Plat and required waivers. E. DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE (DRC) RECOMMENDATION DRC Recommends: Denial of the Preliminary Plat due to sig



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Posted 13 March 2018 - 10:04 AM

Here's an FAA filing for a "Hotel Drover" at 70 ft tall tall. At first I thought this was just a filing for the Armour with a new name, but the map seems to make it look closer to Marine Creek. Previously a 220 room hotel had been shown in the site plan at the end of Mule Alley and abutting the creek.



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Posted 13 March 2018 - 07:33 PM

Here's an FAA filing for a "Hotel Drover" at 70 ft tall tall. At first I thought this was just a filing for the Armour with a new name, but the map seems to make it look closer to Marine Creek. Previously a 220 room hotel had been shown in the site plan at the end of Mule Alley and abutting the creek.

 

Marine Creek is a beautiful spot most people don't even know exists. Hopefully this hotel can bring much needed foot traffic!



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Posted 26 March 2018 - 12:02 PM

More info on the Drover via TDLR. In addition to the 200 hotel rooms a 200 seat restaurant and 4,500 sqft "event barn" are also planned. Total project cost is $35M, expected groundbreaking is June, expected completion is 12/19. Architect is HKS.







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