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#101 Jeriat

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Posted 12 April 2018 - 11:43 AM

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I'd gladly accept 5 more of these... Same height and all.

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Posted 12 April 2018 - 12:54 PM

This will make another nice addition to our skyline.



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Posted 12 April 2018 - 01:43 PM

little clearer.YLvy9Br.png

 

My silly brain kept thinking of this as a new rendering for The Worth.

 

At 9th and Commerce... oh this IS exciting!



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Posted 12 April 2018 - 01:46 PM

Yep. We have two 30+ floor residential skyscrapers proposed right now.



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Posted 16 April 2018 - 01:04 PM

Okay, now we need some fresh skyline renderings! :P



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Posted 16 April 2018 - 02:18 PM

shouldn't this be under "residential"?



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Posted 16 April 2018 - 02:26 PM

The building was originally described as "Mixed-Use".  It was placed in the Commercial section because we didn't know what the percentage of retail to office to parking to residential was going to be.  It's now looking like it is going to be mostly residential with ground floor retail.  Therefore, a move to the "Residential" section will probably be appropriate.



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Posted 17 April 2018 - 08:52 PM

The building was originally described as "Mixed-Use".  It was placed in the Commercial section because we didn't know what the percentage of retail to office to parking to residential was going to be.  It's now looking like it is going to be mostly residential with ground floor retail.  Therefore, a move to the "Residential" section will probably be appropriate.

 

I think mixed-use towers are becoming more and more of the norm. Even Frost has a condo. Or at least that is what I saw in one rendering.  



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Posted 18 April 2018 - 06:31 AM

Such a good location for a residential tower.

 

I wonder if Sky House is looking at Fort Worth yet.



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Posted 18 April 2018 - 07:25 AM

I wonder if Sky House is looking at Fort Worth yet.

 

"West Texas is out of the question for Sky House".



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Posted 18 April 2018 - 09:30 AM

 

I wonder if Sky House is looking at Fort Worth yet.

 

"West Texas is out of the question for Sky House".

 

 

hahaha good one!



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Posted 18 April 2018 - 11:45 AM

 

 

I wonder if Sky House is looking at Fort Worth yet.

 

"West Texas is out of the question for Sky House".

 

 

hahaha good one!

 

 

"Bull's eye".



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Posted 18 April 2018 - 11:54 AM

Such a good location for a residential tower.

 

I wonder if Sky House is looking at Fort Worth yet.

 

I'll gladly take this 35-story tower over a 24-story SkyHouse tower. :)

 

EDIT: I'd gladly take both if feasible. If forced to choose between the two, I'd pick our current proposal.


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Posted 18 April 2018 - 01:13 PM

Could do without things like SkyHouse honestly

 

https://www.dmagazin...-look-familiar/


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Posted 18 April 2018 - 06:13 PM

Could do without things like SkyHouse honestly

 

https://www.dmagazin...-look-familiar/

 

Though you may not like it, don't be surprised if you see one pop up on Henderson or somewhere on Panther Island in the not-so-distant future. 


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Posted 18 April 2018 - 09:02 PM

Could do without things like SkyHouse honestly

 

https://www.dmagazin...-look-familiar/

 

The SkyHouse in Dallas is ugly because it has identical twins in other cities? :huh:

 

Sounds like Dallas ought to stick with low-rise apartment buildings. No two low-rise buildings are identical.


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Posted 19 April 2018 - 08:09 AM

 

Could do without things like SkyHouse honestly

 

https://www.dmagazin...-look-familiar/

 

Though you may not like it, don't be surprised if you see one pop up on Henderson or somewhere on Panther Island in the not-so-distant future. 

 

 

Oh, of that I have no doubt.


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Posted 19 April 2018 - 09:25 AM

Well Skyhouse is a Brand and I guess keeping their buildings the same makes sense when you are branding.  Most obscure and lackluster 24 story condo towers get lost anyway in the sea of other 20-30 condo towers so I don't think it's that big of a deal.



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Posted 26 April 2018 - 09:45 PM

Is the Sky House brand addressing a price point that makes it more affordable than other high rise apartments?



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Posted 26 April 2018 - 09:57 PM

Judging by the prices for the Dallas location (starting at $1265 for a 573 sf studio), I would say no.



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Posted 06 July 2018 - 01:24 PM

No "news" here, but in the wake of the possible collapse of the Worth deal it's nice to look at this site and know that we have an experienced developer with high-rises in their portfolio behind this. I've heard nothing to indicate this project won't eventually go forward.



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Posted 06 July 2018 - 01:37 PM

They originally stated 12 months before construction started, so that would put it in the fall.



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Posted 10 August 2018 - 11:35 PM

I was tipped off that Southern Land Co's most recent lookbook has some changes, most notable that the building's height has shrunk quite a bit.

 

 

 As downtown Fort Worth’s first for-rent

multifamily high-rise, this project will offer
large units, luxurious amenities and a walkable
lifestyle in Fort Worth’s vibrant city center
216 residential units, 5,000 sf retail
17-story high-rise construction, estimated
completion in 2020


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Posted 11 August 2018 - 09:48 AM

 

I was tipped off that Southern Land Co's most recent lookbook has some changes, most notable that the building's height has shrunk quite a bit.

 

 

 As downtown Fort Worth’s first for-rent

multifamily high-rise, this project will offer
large units, luxurious amenities and a walkable
lifestyle in Fort Worth’s vibrant city center
216 residential units, 5,000 sf retail
17-story high-rise construction, estimated
completion in 2020

 

 

 

What the hell?  :mad:


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Posted 11 August 2018 - 10:52 AM

I just wonder if they are going to regret the decision to scale it back.  I'm sorry to see it shortened.



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Posted 11 August 2018 - 02:52 PM

Tariffs?



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Posted 12 August 2018 - 07:59 AM

Since I have moved back to FW 3.5 years I have really enjoyed and I’m excited with the direction the city is headed. I would love more high rises and if they happen to come then great. However, I think I’m not going to waste any feelings of disappointment when news like this comes along. Sure, I would love to have a 31 story rower, but I have just accepted that FW May never, at least in my lifetime, be a skyscraper city. The happy medium is all the exciting things going on which includes the inner city revitalization. If that continues and the city can get more dense and focused more on urban mobility than I am a happy camper tall skyscrapers or not.

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Posted 12 August 2018 - 01:58 PM

Since I have moved back to FW 3.5 years I have really enjoyed and I’m excited with the direction the city is headed. I would love more high rises and if they happen to come then great. However, I think I’m not going to waste any feelings of disappointment when news like this comes along. Sure, I would love to have a 31 story rower, but I have just accepted that FW May never, at least in my lifetime, be a skyscraper city. The happy medium is all the exciting things going on which includes the inner city revitalization. If that continues and the city can get more dense and focused more on urban mobility than I am a happy camper tall skyscrapers or not.

I'm still far more disappointed in this. It's like Block TU all over again. 

 


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Posted 12 August 2018 - 02:15 PM

Seriously? Its just a building.

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Posted 12 August 2018 - 03:06 PM

Personally, it's more than just that... 


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Posted 12 August 2018 - 04:18 PM

S, if something like this can be pulled out of their bag of tricks, a current Southland+GDA project rising on Central Expressway Dallas that was downsized to 18 storeys, similarity of lot size, etc.;  I think it will be very acceptable -

 

https://dallas.tower...y-oliver-place/



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Posted 12 August 2018 - 06:14 PM

That's a nice looking building.



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Posted 12 August 2018 - 07:55 PM

Bait and switch.


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Posted 12 August 2018 - 08:03 PM

Personally, it's more than just that... 


I understand your disappointment Jeriat, but putting egos asidewith regards to adding height to our skyline what does a 31 story building add to the quality of life in a city. Not trying to downplay anything or start a debate, Im just curious as to know why it is so disappointing.

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Posted 12 August 2018 - 08:52 PM

 

Personally, it's more than just that... 


I understand your disappointment Jeriat, but putting egos asidewith regards to adding height to our skyline what does a 31 story building add to the quality of life in a city. Not trying to downplay anything or start a debate, Im just curious as to know why it is so disappointing.

 

 

This city only has like 6 actual skyscrapers and the skyline itself isn't much to brag about, so adding this one wouldn't exactly turn it into Hong Kong... BUT, it would at least be a sign of trying to diversify the CBD a little more instead of sticking with the same "aim low, minimum risk" approach this city or developers in this city always seem to take.  

It's to a point where I feel like we're not even trying to compete with our peer cities. 


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Posted 12 August 2018 - 09:20 PM

Bait and switch??? What was the big gain for these pesky double crossers that pulled one over on the city?

I am dumbfounded by how a project that none of us knew about 10 months ago and hasn't even broken ground yet becomes such a disappointment. And not just a plain disappointment. It's right up there with the disappointment of another unrealized project from 10 years ago that never made it beyond speculation and a leaked black and white rendering.

There is a lot of good going on in Fort Worth right now. Projects and revitalization that other cities would kill to see. But, hey, let's double down on the negativity because this project that will bring residential activity to a corner of downtown that has not seen any since way before most of us were alive is going to be half the height.



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Posted 12 August 2018 - 09:22 PM

The downsizing may very well be due to the irresponsible and short sighted actions of the President who famously promised that the impact of tariffs would be minimal and an easy trade war to win.  Already, shortages of building material causing an increase in cost are having their impact. My fear is the potential for this to spread to other proposed projects.

So far we are fortunate that Southern Land is still attempting to break ground and not putting this project on ice.

 

Uncertainty is setting in:

 

https://archinect.co...it-into-context



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Posted 12 August 2018 - 11:01 PM

JBB- Sure, a 17-story mid-rise would still be nice.

 

The problem is, we were led to believe we would be getting a new skyline-defining skyscraper.

 

It's frustrating. It seems like every time a developer proposes something big in Fort Worth, it gets scaled down or cancelled.

 

- The Cassidy was scaled down from 22 stories to 6 stories

- Left Bank proposed an 8-story office building, then built a 2-story retail building instead

- Hotel Renovo was scaled down from 12 stories to 7 stories before getting cancelled (thanks, Kimbell!)

- TEX Rail was scaled down from 37 miles to 27 miles (though this could be extended in the future)

- The TOD on Vickery is being scaled down from 12 stories to 10 stories

- 901 Commerce is being scaled down from 30 stories to 17 stories


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Posted 12 August 2018 - 11:07 PM

I would have loved to see the building taller too, but life is too short to get bent out of shape about something you have no control over.

 

This was not a bait and switch.  Bait and switch suggests that there was something to gain from the bait and they switched after they got it.  What did they gain with their bait?



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Posted 12 August 2018 - 11:35 PM

Widespread attention and support for this project.


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Posted 13 August 2018 - 06:51 AM

I think its pretty safe to assume it would have gotten attention and been supported if it were announced at 17 floors. Why would the developer owe the city a taller building when the financial conditions changed?

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 07:41 AM

Streetscapes > skylines

Personally I'd rather see two 15-story buildings build with good street presence than a single 30-story builing. Or even four or five 8-10 story buildings filling in some of our current oceans of surface parking.



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Posted 13 August 2018 - 08:59 AM

Streetscapes > skylines
 

 

It's not impossible to have both... 

Just sayin'. 


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Posted 13 August 2018 - 09:31 AM

I think its pretty safe to assume it would have gotten attention and been supported if it were announced at 17 floors. Why would the developer owe the city a taller building when the financial conditions changed?

 

 As I am being to fear, it is not as much as financial conditions changing as it may become a supply of product conditions. 

 

 Downsizing may be one sign developing from a policy to save the jobs of coal miners and steel workers in West Virginia and Pennsylvania.  Neither industries that alone can meet the enormous domestic demand of a strong U.S. economy.

 

It is frustrating to see projects scaled back but the blame is likely better put on an Administration that is anti-trade and protectionist; an Adminstration that is causing markets import and export of goods to be interrupted with careless aplomb than to put it on developers who are finding their supply shrinking and their cost rising.

 

Our economy is being driven towards a painful reversal.



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Posted 14 August 2018 - 07:11 AM

I'm wondering, too, if the proposed projects on the east side of downtown will come to fruition.  Besides the 9th and Commerce high-rise building, on 9th and Houston, Icon Lodging of Irving must still be wanting to buildthe multi-story Residence Inn by Marriott--unless, of course, they're keeping the art drawing on their website merely because it looks great!



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Posted 28 March 2019 - 04:15 PM

Good news, this is going back before DDRB next month and seems to have gained it's height back.

 

 

901 Commerce Street

New 26-story residential apartment building with 283 units over 8 levels of parking with street-level retail shell space. Exterior to consist of a mixture of aluminum/glass window system, metal, and masonry.

 

I'm unsure whether the whole building is 26 floors or whether "26 over 8" is 34 total. For what it's worth, the rendering above shows 26 floors over a 7 floor garage.



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Posted 28 March 2019 - 04:23 PM

Good news, this is going back before DDRB next month and seems to have gained it's height back.

 

 

901 Commerce Street

New 26-story residential apartment building with 283 units over 8 levels of parking with street-level retail shell space. Exterior to consist of a mixture of aluminum/glass window system, metal, and masonry.

 

I'm unsure whether the whole building is 26 floors or whether "26 over 8" is 34 total. Checking now.

 

I legitimately forgot about this project... I'm pleased.


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Posted 28 March 2019 - 04:38 PM

Earlier on they had said 12 units per floor. 283 / 12 = 23.5, so factor in a few penthours and I think this very well may 34 floors total.



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Posted 28 March 2019 - 05:51 PM

Finally, we're beginning to hit an encouraging stride. :D



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Posted 29 March 2019 - 08:14 AM

Great news!  I like high-rise residential towers downtown.  But, remember, The Worth went through DDRB twice, and we still don't know if that project is a go.  Fingers crossed!







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