Loss of Free Parking in Cultural District
#51
Posted 14 December 2010 - 12:10 PM
#52
Posted 14 December 2010 - 02:10 PM
I'm sure all the homeowners anywhere near the area will love this as much as they love the garage.
Yep, cuz everyone will be parking in front of their houses 24/7/365! Brilliant!
I mentioned as much when I emailed my Councilman today.
#53
Posted 16 August 2011 - 01:09 PM
#54
Posted 17 August 2011 - 01:01 PM
#55
Posted 17 August 2011 - 02:30 PM
If the grocery store started requiring customers to pay for parking to shop in their store.... there might be very few food shopping customers.
Why don't they charge for Parking? Maintaining parking lots are just built into their operations budget as a distributed cost added to the products they sell.
Churches, Movie Theatres and big box retail do not charge for parking. Its in their budget.
Maybe they should reallocate parking fees to the Museum and Event Services ... add the parking cost to Event entry ticket fee.
Actually that make sense.
Venues with with more traffic probably means more occupied parking spots. Venues with Zero attendance.. probably means no car spots occupied.
So for the average person finding an open parking spot... thinks it is free parking... until they buy family tickets ($). The City gets their cut from ticket sales.
Now that the Venues become sale tax and parking tax collectors... the city will not need to employee a Parking subcontractor and its overhead costs. Actual cost of parking just goes down. Which might actually increase attendance.
Remember a FEE is a recoverable expense based on specific usage.
A Tax is non specific and is approved or not approved by taxpayers and probably goes into the Fort Worth City general fund.
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#56
Posted 18 August 2011 - 11:43 AM
I'll bet the Crestline, Harley, Washburn, Watonga, etc. residents have also fallen in love with the pay parking since it's inception. They get to meet so many new people jamming the streets in front of their houses.
#57
Posted 26 August 2011 - 02:31 PM
Its maybe like the Grocery Store parking = its free and customers focus on buying needed product in the store.
If the grocery store started requiring customers to pay for parking to shop in their store.... there might be very few food shopping customers.
Why don't they charge for Parking? Maintaining parking lots are just built into their operations budget as a distributed cost added to the products they sell.
Churches, Movie Theatres and big box retail do not charge for parking. Its in their budget.
Maybe they should reallocate parking fees to the Museum and Event Services ... add the parking cost to Event entry ticket fee.
Actually that make sense.
Venues with with more traffic probably means more occupied parking spots. Venues with Zero attendance.. probably means no car spots occupied.
So for the average person finding an open parking spot... thinks it is free parking... until they buy family tickets ($). The City gets their cut from ticket sales.
Now that the Venues become sale tax and parking tax collectors... the city will not need to employee a Parking subcontractor and its overhead costs. Actual cost of parking just goes down. Which might actually increase attendance.
Remember a FEE is a recoverable expense based on specific usage.
A Tax is non specific and is approved or not approved by taxpayers and probably goes into the Fort Worth City general fund.
Why should parking have a hidden cost? What is wrong with paying for the use? Someone owns that land. Someone pays taxes on that land (usually). Someone paid money for that land. Someone pays money to maintain that land. Yet, you want to make it a hidden cost. As a non-caqr user, I'd love to have thaty discount, but as a car user, you want me subsidizing your use.
#58
Posted 26 August 2011 - 02:46 PM
My bank is studying charging a $3 per month fee to use a debit card for purchases. If that works out in other states and they start that in Texas, I will either look seriously at switching banks, or go back to cash. I know this probably sounds dumb, but it is the principle of the thing, not the fee.
As for the Cultural District, I have visited a few times and I have parked in the neighborhood and walked to the museums. Last weekend, I took some photographs for the Cultural District portion of Fortwortharchitecture.com and I parked in the neighborhood and walked.
When the $5 parking fee was started, the neighborhood stated that they wanted to allow people to be able to park in the neighborhood without a permit. When they raise the fee to $8, the city will explore the option again with the neighbors because more people will be parking for free to walk to the museums and events. I don't mind walking a block, or even two to go to one of the museums.
Where will I draw the line on walking? I don't know. It will probably be more than 3 or 4 blocks.
#59
Posted 27 August 2011 - 04:16 PM
IMHO this is less about revenue than about class barrier exclusion. There was a time when free swimming pools, zoos, and museums were a matter of civic pride. Now they are just another victim of the economic disparity between the 'haves' and 'havenots'.
They should just go ahead and make it $50 a car, and dispense with the pretense that these are still affordable 'public' facilities.
I will have to attend an event there next month, and I will park in the neighborhood and walk in like John. But I expect that the neighborhood will soon change their minds about free parking on the street, and you will see all the 'no parking' signs like all around TCU.
#60
Posted 31 August 2011 - 09:30 PM
...... I don't mind walking a block, or even two to go to one of the museums.
The Amon Carter, Kimbell and The Modern all offer free parking to their visitors. You don't need to walk a long way.
#61
Posted 01 September 2011 - 11:37 AM
When the $5 parking fee was started, the neighborhood stated that they wanted to allow people to be able to park in the neighborhood without a permit. When they raise the fee to $8, the city will explore the option again with the neighbors because more people will be parking for free to walk to the museums and events. I don't mind walking a block, or even two to go to one of the museums.
Why on earth would the neighborhood residents have "wanted to allow people to park in the neighborhood without a permit?" Why would they like cars lined up on their streets every weekend? People are slobs and leave trash...
just curious.
#62
Posted 01 September 2011 - 03:40 PM
Why on earth would the neighborhood residents have "wanted to allow people to park in the neighborhood without a permit?" Why would they like cars lined up on their streets every weekend? People are slobs and leave trash...
just curious.
Can you imagine how it is to have a party at your place for Super Bowl or whatever, but have to tell your friends that they can't park on your street because you have to have a permit? In this state where personal liberty is so valued, can you imagine how well it would go over to tell people that they can't park in front of their houses unless they have a permit?
I can only imagine what this whole fiasco is doing to residential property values in this area. If I was over there, I'd be angry.
#63
Posted 02 September 2011 - 11:45 AM
Can you imagine how it is to have a party at your place for Super Bowl or whatever, but have to tell your friends that they can't park on your street because you have to have a permit? In this state where personal liberty is so valued, can you imagine how well it would go over to tell people that they can't park in front of their houses unless they have a permit?
I supposed that residents would have some temp permits to allow guests ;-)
May be a hassle, but the trash and congestion of public parkers escaping a new fee would be worse to me. It's not like the parking was like that when those residents decided to buy on those streets.
#64
Posted 10 December 2011 - 10:49 AM
http://www.fwbusines...ark-debate.html
#65
Posted 10 December 2011 - 03:20 PM
#67
Posted 13 March 2012 - 09:56 AM
More WRMC parking debacle fallout. Museum attendance falling.
I believe it. Dallas has you paying for parking in most places, so people are used to it. Fort Worth people don't have to pay hardly anywhere for parking. Not something people are used to, so they probably see it as saving a few dollars and go have fun elsewhere. Not sure what you can do to combat that.
#68
Posted 13 March 2012 - 11:45 AM
More WRMC parking debacle fallout. Museum attendance falling.
I believe it. Dallas has you paying for parking in most places, so people are used to it. Fort Worth people don't have to pay hardly anywhere for parking. Not something people are used to, so they probably see it as saving a few dollars and go have fun elsewhere. Not sure what you can do to combat that.
I totally agree.
I believe that is what a lot of people would say that they like(d) about FW versus D. Easier to get a round, not a big city, etc. Little by little, many in FW are trying to be city-ish. IMO...
What's that T-shirt? "Life's too short to live in Dallas"
#69
Posted 18 March 2012 - 01:54 AM
#70
Posted 18 March 2012 - 08:11 AM
Read the comments to the recent ST article that I posted.
#71
Posted 25 March 2012 - 02:00 AM
#72
Posted 26 March 2012 - 06:41 AM
#73
Posted 26 March 2012 - 11:11 AM
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