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#551 renamerusk

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Posted 18 April 2019 - 12:50 PM

 

One of the biggest factors was available talent ... there are walls between elementary, high school and secondary education, and there needs to be a better pipeline between schools and business.

 

What does that mean?  Sounds Orwellian.

 

 Yes, that sounds dubious.  FW-D have four of the top ten counties nationally in population growth, presumably not all of that growth is coming directly from the "farm" but from young college educated adults.

 

The thing about this cooked up explanation is that it does not explain Nashville or that we are to believe that Central Tennessee is a hotbed for tech and young people; and was able to beat places like Boston, Philadelphia or Toronto.

 

Look for Tennessee in this listing of best educated states: https://wallethub.co...d-states/31075/

 

So I take these so call consultant/experts with a hefty dose of skepticism.



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Posted 05 February 2020 - 12:21 AM

Could be nothing, but Amazon said to be looking for a site in Dallas. https://www.wfaa.com...OMrHIZweEqmtacw


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Posted 05 February 2020 - 10:04 AM

I take it this corporate office would be smaller than their second corporate headquarters.  Why doesn't Bezos save a little money and just add space for their corporate types to the Fulfillment Center in far north Fort Worth?



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Posted 05 February 2020 - 10:08 AM

It's definitely not anywhere near the scale of a 2nd HQ and sounds more like a branch office for a specific work group.  And they have 9 fulfillment centers in the area, including 3 in north Fort Worth.  They obviously aren't concerned with saving money by consolidating locations.



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Posted 05 February 2020 - 10:29 AM

That much sqft is probably like 600-1000 employees.

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Posted 05 February 2020 - 10:45 AM

The first that I read recently of Amazon's search for additional office space was that it was looking in the area of Dallas' Galleria Towers. 

 

 Why Amazon needs addition office space does not make sense and what would make more sense to me is that Amazon is actually purchasing chunks of valuable real estate as speculative investments.



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Posted 05 February 2020 - 11:16 AM

The first that I read recently of Amazon's search for additional office space was that it was looking in the area of Dallas' Galleria Towers. 

 

 Why Amazon needs addition office space does not make sense and what would make more sense to me is that Amazon is actually purchasing chunks of valuable real estate as speculative investments.

Amazon currently has office space in one of the Galleria Towers and is currently expanding in that space.  However, it wouldn't be out of the ordinary  for a company the size of Amazon to have more than one area location in the same metro area.( My employer has two Dallas offices; one corporate office downtown  and the other has IT,  human resources and accounting near the Galleria.)   I wonder if by any chance this could be a possible call center.  Chewy pet products recently announced a call center coming to Richardson with about the same number of employees (around 700).  It seems whatever operation this might be  will be different than the operation of the offices at the Galleria.

 

The timing is also interesting since Dallas has a 30 and a 45 story office building supposedly breaking ground later this year.  



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Posted 06 February 2020 - 06:15 AM

looks like this story is gaining traction

 

From Channel 5 News 

https://www.nbcdfw.c...office/2305723/



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Posted 17 November 2020 - 01:54 PM

Thought this was an interesting design concept for HQ2.  I thought it might be posted on this thread but some folks images or links are busted?  8M SQFT of office is a lot of space.

 

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Posted 30 November 2020 - 01:33 PM

Not Amazon's H2Q, but the design concept and the site location are viable for inclusion in our city's portfolio in attracting a major corporation that may be wanting to relocate their headquarters to Texas.



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Posted 30 November 2020 - 02:10 PM

I would love to see Panther Island and the East Sundance area to have that sort of massing.



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Posted 30 November 2020 - 03:19 PM

Thought this was an interesting design concept for HQ2.  I thought it might be posted on this thread but some folks images or links are busted?  8M SQFT of office is a lot of space.
 
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I'm just trying to figure out what's what.

Is ALL of the orange supposed to represent Amazon? Because if it is, that's a lot of expanding onto the top of the bluff next to the Bass Towers... not that I'd complain too much since it would be nice to add more density and height to downtown.

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Posted 30 November 2020 - 04:53 PM

Sorry, this color coding is confusing and sort of hard to read depending on your screen layout.  Here's a closer view of the narrative and this version of the Panther Island Master Development Plan that went along with it.  Not certain, but on the HQ2 layout, the lavender buildings would be mixed use, multi-family hotels, residential, retail, entertainment, dining, other office and the orange on the island perimeter would have been HQ2 and if I were guessing the darker orange would be maybe a downtown alternative for HQ2 but what about the pink, green and yellow?

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Posted 01 December 2020 - 01:04 PM

One item I've never been able to understand in reference to boosterism for Panther Island is the supposed demand for the developable space.

 

If developers were clamoring for more downtown development opportunities we'd certainly see more buildings and mid to hi rises being constructed, less surface parking, and more vertical development being squeezed into the Near Southside, especially the area between Vickery and Pennsylvania.

 

The sad fact is, the demand from developers really seems to be lacking in our urban core, at least compared to many other places. And with our city's absolutely refusal to go "all in" on better public transit, the Panther Island area would be a VERY difficult place to have 20k-30k workers and residents flood into, yet alone the 50k-60k workers downtown seattle has seen grow as they've improved their transit capacity into downtown.

 

I'd LOVE to see the project succeed and become a model walkable destination to live and work, but there's A LOT more needed than a town lake and canal...



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Posted 01 December 2020 - 01:47 PM

One item I've never been able to understand in reference to boosterism for Panther Island is the supposed demand for the developable space.

 

If developers were clamoring for more downtown development opportunities we'd certainly see more buildings and mid to hi rises being constructed, less surface parking, and more vertical development being squeezed into the Near Southside, especially the area between Vickery and Pennsylvania.

 

The sad fact is, the demand from developers really seems to be lacking in our urban core, at least compared to many other places. And with our city's absolutely refusal to go "all in" on better public transit, the Panther Island area would be a VERY difficult place to have 20k-30k workers and residents flood into, yet alone the 50k-60k workers downtown seattle has seen grow as they've improved their transit capacity into downtown.

 

I'd LOVE to see the project succeed and become a model walkable destination to live and work, but there's A LOT more needed than a town lake and canal...

 

Developers are* craving large multi-acre sites that can accommodate wrap style apartments. Downtown's blocks are too small to make these work (or simply not for sale) and some places are running out of land, especially Near Southside and W 7th. With additional unique amenities like the canals, lakes, trails, streetcars, and proximity to Downtown Panther Island might be seen as extra desirable. 

*Prior to the pandemic, at least. 



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Posted 02 December 2020 - 10:20 AM

Sorry, this color coding is confusing and sort of hard to read depending on your screen layout.  Here's a closer view of the narrative and this version of the Panther Island Master Development Plan that went along with it.  Not certain, but on the HQ2 layout, the lavender buildings would be mixed use, multi-family hotels, residential, retail, entertainment, dining, other office and the orange on the island perimeter would have been HQ2 and if I were guessing the darker orange would be maybe a downtown alternative for HQ2 but what about the pink, green and yellow?

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Okay, that clears it up a little.


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Posted 02 December 2020 - 01:18 PM

Some "Imagineering" is acceptable on this one.



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Posted 03 March 2023 - 10:24 PM

Amazon pauses construction of second headquarters in Virginia

https://www.cnbc.com...n-virginia.html

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Posted 04 March 2023 - 11:21 AM

I think the era of huge headquarters and/or office moves are over because of work-from-home following COVID. It's now pointless.

 

Watch the Dallas Uptown Goldman Sachs project and the Irving Wells Fargo projects go down in flames. They might move $$$ executives on paper to some small luxury compound a la the Exxon "Headquarters" in Las Colinas so that they can pay fewer taxes than they do in California or New York, but they won't create 15,000 high paying white collar jobs overnight locally anymore.

 

My bet is outside their legacy main offices in certain cities, big corporations open a constellation of regional offices that are just a conference or classrooms for new hires to be onboarded and trained at in-person, and a few administrative assistants to receive certified mail and hand out company laptops so they can be legally present in a location. But in reality their workforce will be scattered around and mostly remote.



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Posted 04 March 2023 - 03:03 PM

The concept of a large office campus does seem rather antiquated in light of recent layoffs, more pending layoffs, C19, WFH etc.

By the way, Exxon Las Colinas is no more.
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Posted 09 March 2023 - 07:17 PM

I dont agree. I think flex work is here to stay, but office will continue to play an important part of collaboration. My team is on Slack, but our in office days are always more productive.

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Posted 09 March 2023 - 07:33 PM

Seems like a high price to pay for real estate only occupied about 2 out of 7 days a week.




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