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#1 Austin55

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Posted 02 March 2018 - 04:37 PM

Visit Fort Worth has put together a masterplan of things to improve FW as a tourist destination. The full document is here.

 

Here are some highlights I think the forum might particularly enjoy

 

 

• Encourage development of gateways to city and key

 visitor districts, from roadside monuments to lighting
 and programming Pioneer Tower at Will Rogers

• Advocate for a dramatic public art installation that
 engages the public and promotes Fort Worth as a
 cultural center

• Create programming for Water Gardens so that
 more visitors experience its beauty

• Accelerate renovation and expansion of the Fort Worth
 Convention Center as quickly as financially possible
 
• Aggressively promote development of new headquarters
 hotel capacity
 
• Support development of full-service hotels downtown
 and market-supported hotel product in the Cultural
 District, Near Southside, Stockyards and other key

 visitor districts

 

• Support and promote circulators as an integrated
 transport system and consider future opportunities
 for visitors and hospitality workers

 



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Posted 04 March 2018 - 11:16 AM

I wonder what would happen if Fort Worth took a different tack with conventions, essentially developing the municipal facilities between The Cultural District, Stockyards and Downtown Water Gardens. Instead of chasing ever bigger events and super-sizing the convention center with square footage that sits empty too often, go for everything else. Upgrades to the convention center bring 'state of the art' everything for advanced experience, but exhibition space is kept inline with a walkable neighborhood giving the CBD an indoor facility for events that are likely to spread up Main Street weather permitting; the primary expansion to the CBD facilities comes through the Water Gardens with outdoor space that can be used year-round.

 

What are the reasons TRE doesn't stop at the Amtrak station as well as T&P? One day hopefully, the line will be double tracked all the way to Dallas, Mesquite, maybe reaching Tyler... but two downtown station increasing potential. But TRE to Cultural District has to happen. 

 

Casino gambling can be as good as bad, but I've always loved the idea of casinos in the Stockyards -- wild west and all that. Maybe even Panther Island, but I do hate the idea that the city would be overwhelmed by the gambling industry. If it ever comes to Texas, it'll likely be restricted within strict boundaries, I like (roughly) Galveston, San Marcos, Brownsville, Fort Worth or Grand Prairie, El Paso.  



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Posted 04 March 2018 - 12:14 PM

I wonder what would happen if Fort Worth took a different tack with conventions, essentially developing the municipal facilities between The Cultural District, Stockyards and Downtown Water Gardens. Instead of chasing ever bigger events and super-sizing the convention center with square footage that sits empty too often, go for everything else. Upgrades to the convention center bring 'state of the art' everything for advanced experience, but exhibition space is kept inline with a walkable neighborhood giving the CBD an indoor facility for events that are likely to spread up Main Street weather permitting; the primary expansion to the CBD facilities comes through the Water Gardens with outdoor space that can be used year-round.

 

What are the reasons TRE doesn't stop at the Amtrak station as well as T&P? One day hopefully, the line will be double tracked all the way to Dallas, Mesquite, maybe reaching Tyler... but two downtown station increasing potential. But TRE to Cultural District has to happen. 

 

Casino gambling can be as good as bad, but I've always loved the idea of casinos in the Stockyards -- wild west and all that. Maybe even Panther Island, but I do hate the idea that the city would be overwhelmed by the gambling industry. If it ever comes to Texas, it'll likely be restricted within strict boundaries, I like (roughly) Galveston, San Marcos, Brownsville, Fort Worth or Grand Prairie, El Paso.  

 

TRE and Amtrak both stop at the Intermodal Transportation Center downtown. The TRE has 2 stops in downtown Ft. Worth.



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Posted 04 March 2018 - 12:33 PM

I wonder what would happen if Fort Worth took a different tack with conventions, essentially developing the municipal facilities between The Cultural District, Stockyards and Downtown Water Gardens. Instead of chasing ever bigger events and super-sizing the convention center with square footage that sits empty too often, go for everything else. Upgrades to the convention center bring 'state of the art' everything for advanced experience, but exhibition space is kept inline with a walkable neighborhood giving the CBD an indoor facility for events that are likely to spread up Main Street weather permitting; the primary expansion to the CBD facilities comes through the Water Gardens with outdoor space that can be used year-round.

 

 

I'm confused.  Are you saying they shouldn't add to the convention center space, but push events into outdoor space?  You can't plan outdoor events in this area months or years in advance without a rain plan and I don't see how you can do that without the expanded space. 

 

I've beat this dead horse enough, but casinos can go elsewhere.  We won't get Vegas, we'll get Bossier City or what Winstar will be in 20 years.  Run down and full of locals just shifting money from one part of the economy to another and sending the profits to an out of state operator. No thanks.



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Posted 04 March 2018 - 02:36 PM

 

What are the reasons TRE doesn't stop at the Amtrak station as well as T&P?

 

TRE and Amtrak both stop at the Intermodal Transportation Center downtown. The TRE has 2 stops in downtown Ft. Worth.

 

 

omg I hate it when I do that... I was looking at a wish-list TRE map, southern route from Texas Wesleyan, UTA, Arlington Statiums, Ripleys Believe it or Not.... 



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Posted 04 March 2018 - 03:03 PM

 

I wonder what would happen if Fort Worth took a different tack with conventions, essentially developing the municipal facilities between The Cultural District, Stockyards and Downtown Water Gardens.

 

I'm confused.  Are you saying they shouldn't add to the convention center space, but push events into outdoor space?  You can't plan outdoor events in this area months or years in advance without a rain plan and I don't see how you can do that without the expanded space. 

 

I do think the Convention Center needs additional space up and over (re)straightened Commerce, with a mixed-use entrance facing the train stations, but adding some parkland to the park & convention facilities downtown will give residents a much better neighborhood and convention center users a much better walk/up experience.

 

The curiosity being where most of the additional convention space is added. Instead of lumping all the eggs into one basket, doubling to eventually tripling the existing convention center --- put half of the additional convention space by Dickie's Arena, and oh let's say a quarter of the new convention space in the Stockyards.

 

This would certainly eliminate Fort Worth from the coveted get-togethers that require enormous amounts of contiguous ballrooms.  But... with a somewhat larger downtown convention center targeting meetings/shows ideally pairing a big auditorium with ample ballrooms, meeting rooms and outside exhibition & performance area. This would be a different target. The convention center host more and more events that are interactive with area residents.

 

The Cultural District and Dickie's Arena become the host for the big trade show and what has become thought of as traditional Convention Center customers. Will Rogers Coliseum etc get a major overhaul and expansion. That collection of exhibition space becomes the dynamic reconfigurable meeting/ballroom space that for some tradeshows may need a few football fields amount of unobstructed floorspace. 

 

Putting convention facilities in the stockyard is pretty much an outlier, but for the uniqueness of the destination, and the pull of the FW Stock show, I'm sure the space would be used. 



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Posted 05 March 2018 - 10:40 AM

Reviewing the Convention Center Arena Study thread seems to show a planning disconnect between Dickies and the CC Arena, not surprising I guess and hopefully that sort of initiative blindspot will diminish to very little under the mandate to cease the 20th century marketing plan for the city. 

 

Visit Fort Worth is absolutely right to place so much importance on convention center renovation, but it's unclear to me why expansion plans for the convention center facility seem to be chasing the same strategy that have failed or are in the middle of failing every city in the country -- potentially wrecking the neighborhood to host meetings.

 

If Dickies Arena had been built adjacent to the convention center, then treading that water would be appropriate. But the big arena is a couple miles away so the focus of the convention center, in my opinion, should become less convention and more community. Fort Worth's single greatest, under exploited demographic of tourism lives within the metropolitan area. A big new ~1,000 room CVB "Headquarters" hotel certainly is in order, but that one needs to go to the Cultural District. 

 

The Arena needs to stay, and as mention elsewhere should have the capability to open to General Worth Square. With upgrades, expansion and retrofits geared mostly to what North Texas residents are missing ought to be the intent of the Fort Worth Convention Center.

 

--re: Cultural District 'HQ' hotel. That part of town has a ridiculous absence of hotel rooms. Special events at the new arena can generate enough adjacent-preferred hotel use to almost support a giant hotel, everything else within walking distance can make profitable hotel attract others. The museums and the stock show are the most potent draws Fort Worth has beyond North Texas. The livestock barn I guess would only function as barns.... ummm but I don't see why they cannot actually working the 11 months when judging is not going on --- it's a new attraction with benefits. Half way petting zoo, all the way farm producing breakfast. I dont know something like that... but the rest of the collection of exhibition facilities including the football field, Casa Manana should renovate and upgrade to host some of the conventions and trade shows now currently under the approach of the convention center (it's the same sort of neglect with Dallas Fair Park. Here in Fort Worth is one of the best collections of Art in the South Central US, a beautiful skyline view, tons of exhibition space and the fleeting style & fashion of the day leaves it underutilized most of the year). The HQ hotel is specifically built to enhance the Will Rogers art deco architecture while serving as a landmark on the horizon.

 

That's more of what I mean.... Tourists from within North Texas are the primary target for the Fort Worth Convention Center. The rest of downtown already hangs off the Main Street shoulders, this will simply make stronger shoulders.

 

 

Getting hardline transit to circle through the primary attractions almost seems insurmountable. 



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Posted 04 May 2018 - 12:00 PM

Oh snap!  --- The exciting news - sounds like this [Canopy Hotel] is happening sooner than later. So far this is the only permit filed for this address, no demolition permits for the existing building yet.....

 

 

This is great news...... maybe this will put a fire under our city leaders to get moving with the new convention center.

 

While the CC Expansion will certainly generate some momentum of its own, the DA , even though its several months away from completion and the Visit Fort Worth (VFW) aggressive campaign already deserve plenty of credit to spur tourist related ventures to be announced and to be now on the drawing board. Evidence this report in FWBP -

 

http://www.fortworth...2b9adb11db.html



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Posted 04 May 2018 - 03:55 PM

Dickies Arena is scheduled to open in November 2019. So we are well over a year away from its opening. Last week I talked with a Uber driver who told me that he had to take a doctor that was staying at the La Quinta in Cityview for a medical convention in downtown. The Doctor told him all hotel rooms in downtown were booked ! I had no idea that rooms were that bad to get in downtown ?



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Posted 04 May 2018 - 04:03 PM

Yep. It's not an infrequent thing for downtown to hit 100% occupancy. We really do need more hotels here and soon.

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Posted 04 May 2018 - 06:34 PM

Yep. It's not an infrequent thing for downtown to hit 100% occupancy. We really do need more hotels here and soon.

 

Aloft to the rescue!

 

https://www.fortwort...-15-2018)/7996/



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Posted 05 May 2018 - 06:03 PM

They are still going to have to hustle.  I looked in the windows the other day, and very little progress had been made in the finish-out of the lobby and the wxyz Bar.



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Posted 05 May 2018 - 09:06 PM

The Aloft website has June 14 as its opening date: http://m.starwoodhot...8EFPQ&gclsrc=ds

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Posted 05 May 2018 - 10:06 PM

I'm pretty sure that's been pushed back about a dozen times already. I'll believe it when I see it. No idea how this is taking so long.



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Posted 06 May 2018 - 10:11 AM

I'm pretty sure that's been pushed back about a dozen times already. I'll believe it when I see it. No idea how this is taking so long.


I understand that a lot of construction projects in our area got delayed because of Hurricane Harvey. A lot of the materials and labor from this part of Texas went to Houston to work on urgent - and I assume higher-paying - recovery projects instead.

https://www.nbcdfw.c...-443917313.html

I don't know if that's the case specifically with Aloft, but it would make sense.

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Posted 06 May 2018 - 10:59 AM

So whether it is May or June, the arrival of Aloft can not come in sooner to help with the shortages of rooms in Downtown. 

 

Indeed, Aloft will be viewed as a welcome arrival if the antidote in Post #9 is to be believed.



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Posted 06 May 2018 - 12:02 PM

So whether it is May or June, the arrival of Aloft can not come in sooner to help with the shortages of rooms in Downtown. 

 

Indeed, Aloft will be viewed as a welcome arrival if the antidote in Post #9 is to be believed.

 

I don't know about you. But I don't trust the guy in Post #9.



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Posted 06 May 2018 - 03:13 PM

Even if the Aloft comes in May or June, it still will not be enough to solve our hotel room shortage.  The Autograph Collection at the Sinclair Building is supposed to open at the end of the year.  Construction should start before or around that time on the AC Hotel across the street. 



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Posted 24 February 2019 - 05:31 PM

Any master plan should have as a major focus, the impressive and untold story of Fort Worth and Music; with that focus being on ways to couple music and tourism.

 

I believe that campaigning to the artistic music world that Fort Worth has historically been a musical laboratory and furthering the encouragement of  musicians and the musical apparatus to set up shop in the City will have the dual   effect of establishing the City as "Texas' Second Weird City" and it will draw tourists.

 

Commercial businesses have become accustomed to asking for and receiving tax abatements citing job creation, etc.   Music can create jobs too, fill hotel rooms and restaurants (K-pop), etc. 

 

Fort Worth has the right to be known as a legitimate Music Capital -

 

https://www.star-tel...le18511193.html



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Posted 27 February 2019 - 09:52 PM

Dear Austin,  from Fort Worth with love -

 

 

https://www.fortworth.com/sxsw/



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Posted 28 February 2019 - 06:56 AM

Too bad SXSW has grown into a deal where the mayor of anywhere else makes a booster appearance.... SXSW is a beautiful garden, overgrown, choking itself out; the need of a firm handed pruning is clear and productive but the decision will never be made. 



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Posted 28 February 2019 - 04:25 PM

.... SXSW is a beautiful garden, overgrown, choking itself out; the need of a firm handed pruning is clear and productive but the decision will never be made. 

 

 While it is hard to disagree with your assessment of SXSW, it is easy to understand the strategy that Fort Worth is taking in exposing itself to the artistic sides of the world as a place to gather/colonize.   From the Fort Worth Rainey Street promotion, interest in Fort Worth will be generated that will resound to the City.

 

I think it makes a whole lot of sense.



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Posted 03 March 2019 - 12:37 PM

Create programming for Water Gardens so that  more visitors experience its beauty

 

 

I think Shakespeare in the Park or a Jazz series would be good Water Garden programming.


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Posted 03 March 2019 - 01:15 PM

I would love to get something like Shakespeare in the Park started again.  Back in the day, I enjoyed going to the plays and sitting on the lawn at the Trinity Park Pavilion.



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Posted 03 March 2019 - 10:44 PM

I would love to get something like Shakespeare in the Park started again.  Back in the day, I enjoyed going to the plays and sitting on the lawn at the Trinity Park Pavilion.


Yeah that was a lot of fun... I think I was around 11 years old the first time I went and although I hadn’t really been exposed to Shakespeare yet or theatre for that matter, besides school or church plays, I remember it having a very culturally cool vibe and energy

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Posted 19 April 2019 - 03:59 PM

Ahead of the national gymnastics championship in Fort Worth this weekend, the Star-Telegram reports that VFW is trying to tap into a big piece of the growing sports tourism market.
Why Fort Worth hopes sports is the tourism ticket

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Posted 20 April 2019 - 10:22 PM

   I also hope that the event managing team will not book professional sports from the NBA, NHL and resist the efforts of owners of professional teams to use DA as leverage against arenas in other communities.....   IMO, the arena should be used to bring in gate receipts for amateur competition, non-profit organizations, special events, etc.

 

 

Ahead of the national gymnastics championship in Fort Worth this weekend, the Star-Telegram reports that VFW is trying to tap into a big piece of the growing sports tourism market.
Why Fort Worth hopes sports is the tourism ticket

 

So true.  Taping into the growing, amateur, olympic, collegiate, etc. the non-professional meets are the best use of Fort Worth arenas.  These events produce imported dollars to the local area that having a professional team will not be able to match.



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Posted 03 February 2020 - 05:47 PM

Here's a nice article in DFW about Visit Fort Worth's message of inclusivity

https://www.wfaa.com...c8-2325f8c501e9

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Posted 03 February 2020 - 08:24 PM

Here's a nice article in DFW about Visit Fort Worth's message of inclusivity

https://www.wfaa.com...c8-2325f8c501e9

Really love it.  Great job, Visit Fort Worth!!!



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Posted 08 August 2021 - 04:25 PM

Visit Fort Worth professional services agreement with the city is up for renewal. 

https://fortworthgov...76-B88138BA5A0A

 

The purpose of this Informal Report is to notify the City Council of the one-year extension of the Professional Services Agreement between the City and Visit Fort Worth.

 
The current agreement has been in place since 2013. It outlines the expectations for Visit Fort Worth to promote and solicit events for the Fort Worth Convention Center, Will Rogers Memorial Center, and the entire City of Fort Worth as a visitor and event destination. The agreement also outlines Visit Fort Worth’s funding from Culture and Tourism Funds. The amended agreement in 2018, which ends September 30, 2021, allows for the agreement to be extended for two additional one-year periods.
 
In the amended agreement, the funding portion of the agreement remains unchanged and all terms and conditions are binding. The core marketing services provided by Visit Fort Worth, are funded through an allocation of 47% of the 7% Hotel Occupancy Tax (HOT) collected in Fiscal 2022 up to the baseline, plus incremental growth in HOT outside of the Project Finance Zone. Additionally, they receive incentive funding of up to $790,000 for events to held at FWCC and WRMC, plus annual funding for The Herd.
 
The Key Performance Indicators (KPIs) in the agreement have been updated and focus on measures of success for the organization’s work to place events in the FWCC, WRMC, and to promote Fort Worth as a visitor destination.
 
Staff’s recommendation is to extend the agreement for FY2022, with the updated KPIs and to negotiate a new agreement for FY2023 and beyond. FY2022 is expected to be a year where Fort Worth will see how the local visitor economy recovers from the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic......


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Posted 09 August 2021 - 09:40 PM


I would love to get something like Shakespeare in the Park started again.  Back in the day, I enjoyed going to the plays and sitting on the lawn at the Trinity Park Pavilion.


 

I wonder if the "stage" at the southern edge of the central plaza of the Water Gardens would have the acoustics necessary for a "Shakespeare in the Gardens"?



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Posted 10 August 2021 - 07:48 AM

 

I would love to get something like Shakespeare in the Park started again.  Back in the day, I enjoyed going to the plays and sitting on the lawn at the Trinity Park Pavilion.


 

I wonder if the "stage" at the southern edge of the central plaza of the Water Gardens would have the acoustics necessary for a "Shakespeare in the Gardens"?

 

seems like a good thing for gateway park if they still intend on building the ampitheatre.

 

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