DT: Omni Fort Worth Hotel (447 FT/33 ST/2008)
#51
Posted 18 December 2006 - 09:31 PM
#53
Posted 19 December 2006 - 11:01 AM
#55
Posted 19 December 2006 - 11:49 AM
In all reality I have nothing but love for you Aggies. You're a strange bunch, but overall pretty good guys.
#56
Posted 19 December 2006 - 09:58 PM
#57
Posted 20 December 2006 - 08:08 AM
Now they just need to fix the one way "pairs"---How can Jones be a northbound one way street when turning onto it from EB Lancaster is an illegal turn? What type of Aggie engineering was that??? That's totally messed up and needs to be fixed...
Hey redhead - this left-turn is prohibited because of the lack of visibility 'through' the bridge that was built for the TRE. I heard the City may look into this again when Lancaster is re-opened; but I don't think this visibility issue can be fixed. Until then, it's left on Commerce, right on 14th, left on Jones.
#58
Posted 20 December 2006 - 10:04 PM
#59
Posted 21 December 2006 - 04:17 PM
I think it is interesting that they are now working on the foundation, yet we still don't know how tall the building will be.
Mr. Roberts are you hinting that this foundation work could make the building taller than 507ft ?
#60
Posted 21 December 2006 - 07:26 PM
If anyone has new information on the height, I would appreciate them posting it here.
#61
Posted 22 December 2006 - 10:08 AM
#62
Posted 22 December 2006 - 10:42 AM
With our self imposed height restriction's. On our west side and in the upcoming TRV. I agree with some restriction. But I belive they go overboard.
#63
Posted 26 December 2006 - 08:36 PM
The Omni's Signage, Lighting, and Landscape Packages will be put up for review by the Downtown Design Review Board at their regular meeting at 1:00 PM on January 4, 2007. I have now posted the agenda on the Forum Calendar. The link to the agenda is: http://www.fortworth...nt&event_id=294
#64
Posted 27 December 2006 - 09:31 AM
#65
Posted 27 December 2006 - 09:37 AM
In other words it seems to me that the powers to be. Are looking at data that says thier need to be more room. And looking at other data that says it may not be needed.
I do find it odd that they started the Hotel and still don't know how big thier going to build it.
#66
Posted 27 December 2006 - 10:43 AM
#68
Posted 27 December 2006 - 10:16 PM
The Downtown Design Review Board meetings used to be carried by City Cable Channel 7, but it was dropped for low viewership. The only way to "see" this meeting is to attend it on January 4th.
#69
Posted 28 December 2006 - 11:21 AM
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#70
Posted 28 December 2006 - 11:46 AM
I am assuming that the height "secret" would include both the Hotel and condo tower??
I figure that, if this theory proves true, they probably just added floors to the condo tower portion of the building. Somebody more knowledgeable than me may want to correct me, though.
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Kara B.
#71
Posted 28 December 2006 - 08:08 PM
#72
Posted 29 December 2006 - 01:22 PM
I would say our hotel looks nothing close to most of the Omni's hotels they got out thier now. Seems like they wanted the Fort Worth hotel look as much like a office tower as possiable. I wonder if that was the case?
#74
Posted 29 December 2006 - 04:18 PM
By the time major foundation work is started, the basic design of the building is complete. Both the architects and the owners now know the final height of the building. They are just not releasing the information.
The Downtown Design Review Board meetings used to be carried by City Cable Channel 7, but it was dropped for low viewership. The only way to "see" this meeting is to attend it on January 4th.
I would imagine that the existing soil conditions at the Omni site, which is rock, and the 10 ft diameter piers, which go 65 ft deep would allow enough of a load bearing safety factor to increase the height quite a bit if so desired. I think its worth the cost to beef the foundation up especially if your in a hurry to get started and you havent completed your design. Im 1984 we were building the Infomart in Dallas at Oak Lawn and I-35 and it was designed to go 18 floors and be taller than the World Trade Center next door but after construction was underway it was decided to only go 6 floors which we did but with future plans to take it up to the original design which unfortunatly never happened but is still possible due to the foundation design.
#75
Posted 30 December 2006 - 12:55 AM
#76
Posted 30 December 2006 - 11:08 AM
#77
Posted 31 December 2006 - 08:27 AM
I have also uploaded new construction photographs of the project on Page 1 of this thread.
#78
Posted 04 January 2007 - 09:26 PM
Also, I have information on the signage and landscaping package that was presented before the Downtown Design Review Board today. Both elements of the design are are very corporate and unexciting. The landscaping is also very typical.
Finally, from two sources, I'm beginning to get more information on the height of the building. More on this later.
#79
Posted 04 January 2007 - 11:41 PM
If it is taller than BP, would this mean that BP will raise the “box” another couple of levels?
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#80
Posted 04 January 2007 - 11:52 PM
Ohhhhh man…… The suspense is killing me on the height!!
If it is taller than BP, would this mean that BP will raise the “box” another couple of levels?
Steph and I have been joking about that...Burnett Plaza just adding some more concrete to the box would be hilarious. Double points if the new section didn't match either of the two current ones.
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Kara B.
#81
Posted 05 January 2007 - 10:26 AM
#82
Posted 05 January 2007 - 05:17 PM
Ohhhhh man…… The suspense is killing me on the height!!
If it is taller than BP, would this mean that BP will raise the “box” another couple of levels?
Steph and I have been joking about that...Burnett Plaza just adding some more concrete to the box would be hilarious. Double points if the new section didn't match either of the two current ones.
Wouldn't suprise me at all!
#83
Posted 13 January 2007 - 02:15 PM
#84
Posted 14 January 2007 - 09:02 AM
That ramp appears pretty steep near the top, is that a normal dgr? Or is it just because of limited space behind the ramp?
Looks like something you would see in Hazard County. Where’s the “General Lee” when you need it?
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#85
Posted 16 January 2007 - 10:00 PM
On a related note, the second tower crane is now starting to be erected. It won't be long before construction will start moving much faster.
#86
Posted 17 January 2007 - 12:47 PM
#87
Posted 18 January 2007 - 08:59 AM
Photographically Preserving Dallas/Fort Worth One Building at a time
http://www.flickr.co...s/70886669@N00/
#88
Posted 19 January 2007 - 03:35 PM
If I read right one time. The Omni will be topped out by July Or August. Has anyone else heard about that?
That would be great, however my main question is....
TOPPED OUT AT WHAT????
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#89
Posted 19 January 2007 - 05:06 PM
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Kara B.
#90
Posted 22 January 2007 - 03:45 PM
#91
Posted 22 January 2007 - 07:02 PM
Can you tell me at what corner that corner shot will be?
From looking at the renderings, I think it's the northeast corner on 12th & Houston.
EDIT: Yeah, I think that's right. Here's an overall view for reference. The glass corner looks new.
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Kara B.
#92
Posted 23 January 2007 - 08:46 AM
#93
Posted 23 January 2007 - 09:03 AM
Can you tell me at what corner that corner shot will be?
From looking at the renderings, I think it's the northeast corner on 12th & Houston.
EDIT: Yeah, I think that's right. Here's an overall view for reference. The glass corner looks new.
NICE!! A facelift for FW, I love it!
The top portion with glass, is that new or an older version?
Nice looking!
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#94
Posted 23 January 2007 - 09:23 AM
#95
Posted 23 January 2007 - 09:57 AM
The new rendering is great.What are the numbers to the left,floors/height?
#96
Posted 23 January 2007 - 10:21 PM
The view that Atomic Glee has posted is the east side of the building. This is taken from a large PDF file that was supplied by the City of Fort Worth. Here is a link to the entire design package of the Omni Hotel.
http://www.fortworth...re.com/Omni.pdf
#97
Posted 24 January 2007 - 01:06 AM
That is the latest color drawing that has been released. I do have a newer black and white version put together for the signage package. The signage package has the building in elevation with barely legible vertical dimensions. For the first time, these dimensions have given the overall building height. Unfortunately, the numbers are so difficult to read; therefore, I could be unsure of the final height of the building. A second source has given me the height of the building and the two numbers appear to be the same. I have not been able to make a final verification that the height information is correct. It won't be long before I will post on the forum the height I think the building will be constructed.
The view that Atomic Glee has posted is the east side of the building. This is taken from a large PDF file that was supplied by the City of Fort Worth. Here is a link to the entire design package of the Omni Hotel.
http://www.fortworth...re.com/Omni.pdf
John, you mentioned earlier about the signage and night lighting - I think you said it was boring. Can you elaborate at all on the signage and night lighting? I'm especially curious about the night lighting, as the Omni will have a big impact on the night skyline if it has even halfway decent night lighting.
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Kara B.
#98
Posted 24 January 2007 - 09:41 AM
That is the latest color drawing that has been released. I do have a newer black and white version put together for the signage package. The signage package has the building in elevation with barely legible vertical dimensions. For the first time, these dimensions have given the overall building height. Unfortunately, the numbers are so difficult to read; therefore, I could be unsure of the final height of the building. A second source has given me the height of the building and the two numbers appear to be the same. I have not been able to make a final verification that the height information is correct. It won't be long before I will post on the forum the height I think the building will be constructed.
The view that Atomic Glee has posted is the east side of the building. This is taken from a large PDF file that was supplied by the City of Fort Worth. Here is a link to the entire design package of the Omni Hotel.
http://www.fortworth...re.com/Omni.pdf
John,
From what I can tell it looks like 444 ft from ground to roof and 54.6 ft for the top piece (not including that small piece at the very top. So, I am guessing 498.6 ft plus whatever the top most piece adds.
#99
Posted 24 January 2007 - 12:43 PM
John,
From what I can tell it looks like 444 ft from ground to roof and 54.6 ft for the top piece (not including that small piece at the very top. So, I am guessing 498.6 ft plus whatever the top most piece adds.
You going by the Omni.pdf images? I think the building has grown since then. I've heard rumors about the building ending up being 2nd-tallest - hopefully John can confirm or deny said rumors.
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Kara B.
#100
Posted 24 January 2007 - 01:05 PM
John,
From what I can tell it looks like 444 ft from ground to roof and 54.6 ft for the top piece (not including that small piece at the very top. So, I am guessing 498.6 ft plus whatever the top most piece adds.
You going by the Omni.pdf images? I think the building has grown since then. I've heard rumors about the building ending up being 2nd-tallest - hopefully John can confirm or deny said rumors.
Oh, yes I was going by the PDF images. I just blew them up and thought I had solved the mystery. Oh well, I hope you are right about the 2nd tallest. However, if D.R. Horton Tower is 547 ft and Burnett Plaza is 567 ft why not extend it a mere 21 ft and say you are the tallest?
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