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#151 eastfwther

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Posted 20 August 2019 - 08:43 AM

 

I would say the opposite is true actually.  I mean no one purposefully wants a long commute, but to get the kind of living situation they want, lots of people will happily accept one.

 

In fact, people who move here from bigger cities often want a big plot of land (<1 acre) and want to live on the edge of town.  Going back to my earlier comment about working in other cities and living in Fort Worth, that's still possible here- there are areas in the city limits that are still rural, still empty land.  Where I work on the west side of town, a lot of people who come here from bigger cities are tired of city life and want a quiet place in the country.  Living out near Weatherford suits them fine.

 

Alternately, some people come from cities where an 8 mile commute took almost an hour.  So driving an hour from, for instance, the northern fringes of Fort Worth, to their job in Frisco, is a very attractive option.  One of the reasons why DFW is growing so fast is that there is still unlimited space to sprawl; in other cities the sprawl has played out.  The American dream for a lot of people is a place out in the country, away from big city hassles.  Their job may be in the city but they don't have to live there.  And with virtual commuting, some people only have to go into the office one or two days a week anyway.

 

Obviously I don't prefer that- when I moved last year, I moved closer into the city.  But the statement that "People generally prefer to work close to where they live rather than far away from where they live" isn't, in my experience with coworkers, generally true.

 

But that's the problem with sprawl; seemingly overnight, what was open land away from the city, becomes strip centers, apartments, subdivisions and  (although  not so much in Fort Worth) corporate campuses and high rise buildings -SEE Frisco or even North Fort Worth .  It's all just horrible unsustainable sprawl. 

 

I haven't worked in Fort Worth for almost 25 years. I've worked in downtown Dallas, Richardson  and now Las Colinas, Living in east Fort Worth, the commute was never that bad.  I live near Magnolia Avenue now and the commute to Las Colinas isn't horrible.  I would still love being closer to work, but I love living in the city.  However, I probably would have moved if it wasn't for being able to work from home at least 3 days a week.   NOW rumor is that our Las Colinas office is going to merge with our Plano office. Basically it's too pricey to have offices in three hot office spots; Victory Park, Las Colinas and Plano Legacy West.  If you've never seen the Plano Legacy area, it is very impressive out there and I will probably move.

 

Do I really want to move at my age (53) ?..no.  But Fort Worth simply lacks the types of jobs and pay that the Dallas area offers.  And to me, the commute time ain't worth it to keep me in Fort Worth.  



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Posted 20 August 2019 - 09:29 AM

 

 

I would say the opposite is true actually.  I mean no one purposefully wants a long commute, but to get the kind of living situation they want, lots of people will happily accept one.

 

In fact, people who move here from bigger cities often want a big plot of land (<1 acre) and want to live on the edge of town.  Going back to my earlier comment about working in other cities and living in Fort Worth, that's still possible here- there are areas in the city limits that are still rural, still empty land.  Where I work on the west side of town, a lot of people who come here from bigger cities are tired of city life and want a quiet place in the country.  Living out near Weatherford suits them fine.

 

Alternately, some people come from cities where an 8 mile commute took almost an hour.  So driving an hour from, for instance, the northern fringes of Fort Worth, to their job in Frisco, is a very attractive option.  One of the reasons why DFW is growing so fast is that there is still unlimited space to sprawl; in other cities the sprawl has played out.  The American dream for a lot of people is a place out in the country, away from big city hassles.  Their job may be in the city but they don't have to live there.  And with virtual commuting, some people only have to go into the office one or two days a week anyway.

 

Obviously I don't prefer that- when I moved last year, I moved closer into the city.  But the statement that "People generally prefer to work close to where they live rather than far away from where they live" isn't, in my experience with coworkers, generally true.

 

But that's the problem with sprawl; seemingly overnight, what was open land away from the city, becomes strip centers, apartments, subdivisions and  (although  not so much in Fort Worth) corporate campuses and high rise buildings -SEE Frisco or even North Fort Worth .  It's all just horrible unsustainable sprawl. 

 

I haven't worked in Fort Worth for almost 25 years. I've worked in downtown Dallas, Richardson  and now Las Colinas, Living in east Fort Worth, the commute was never that bad.  I live near Magnolia Avenue now and the commute to Las Colinas isn't horrible.  I would still love being closer to work, but I love living in the city.  However, I probably would have moved if it wasn't for being able to work from home at least 3 days a week.   NOW rumor is that our Las Colinas office is going to merge with our Plano office. Basically it's too pricey to have offices in three hot office spots; Victory Park, Las Colinas and Plano Legacy West.  If you've never seen the Plano Legacy area, it is very impressive out there and I will probably move.

 

Do I really want to move at my age (53) ?..no.  But Fort Worth simply lacks the types of jobs and pay that the Dallas area offers.  And to me, the commute time ain't worth it to keep me in Fort Worth.  

 

 

I really appreciate hearing your personal story, I really feel this is exactly the type of story that should be shared with our city council, economic development directors, and the Ft. Worth Chamber of Commerce.



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Posted 20 August 2019 - 10:54 AM

 


 

I really appreciate hearing your personal story, I really feel this is exactly the type of story that should be shared with our city council, economic development directors, and the Ft. Worth Chamber of Commerce.

 

I think part of the problem with the City of Fort Worth's government is that the city IS NOT losing people and they see that as the only growth that matters.  As long as the population swells along with the  apartments and sprawling subdivisions (that support the RESIDENTIAL dependent tax base), growing the actual business economy and attracting the corporate growth seen on the exploding eastern side of the metroplex seems less important.  

 

And if anyone hasn't seen what's going on east of FW, I would task you to take a sunday afternoon and hit the North Dallas tollway from downtown Dallas to Frisco; you'll be stunned. And that doesn't even touch Las Colinas, Cypress Waters, the Central Expressway Corridor, 635 and Richardson areas.  

 

BTW, just announced today in Irving

"Irving-based cancer research firm Caris Life Sciences to add 500 jobs, develop new corporate park"

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Posted 20 August 2019 - 12:40 PM

But that's the problem with sprawl;

 

Oh I agree, but for lots of people, sprawl is what (they think) they want.  And it's what Fort Worth can offer.


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Posted 20 August 2019 - 12:44 PM

 

But that's the problem with sprawl;

 

Oh I agree, but for lots of people, sprawl is (what they think) they want.  And it's what Fort Worth can offer.

 

I agree...then when that sprawl becomes worn, they move further out into the new "hot sprawl" and repeat.  That's why the metroplex is practically to Oklahoma now.  



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Posted 20 August 2019 - 05:08 PM

 

I would say the opposite is true actually.  I mean no one purposefully wants a long commute, but to get the kind of living situation they want, lots of people will happily accept one.

 

In fact, people who move here from bigger cities often want a big plot of land (<1 acre) and want to live on the edge of town.  Going back to my earlier comment about working in other cities and living in Fort Worth, that's still possible here- there are areas in the city limits that are still rural, still empty land.  Where I work on the west side of town, a lot of people who come here from bigger cities are tired of city life and want a quiet place in the country.  Living out near Weatherford suits them fine.

 

Alternately, some people come from cities where an 8 mile commute took almost an hour.  So driving an hour from, for instance, the northern fringes of Fort Worth, to their job in Frisco, is a very attractive option.  One of the reasons why DFW is growing so fast is that there is still unlimited space to sprawl; in other cities the sprawl has played out.  The American dream for a lot of people is a place out in the country, away from big city hassles.  Their job may be in the city but they don't have to live there.  And with virtual commuting, some people only have to go into the office one or two days a week anyway.

 

Obviously I don't prefer that- when I moved last year, I moved closer into the city.  But the statement that "People generally prefer to work close to where they live rather than far away from where they live" isn't, in my experience with coworkers, generally true.

 

 

Many people in the Fort Worth metro division commute to the Dallas metro division because the jobs they want are only available in the Dallas metro division.

 

I'm sure there are many people who live in Fort Worth who wish they could work in Fort Worth as well.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it appears you're looking at things from the perspective of people who just secured a job and are looking for a place to live. I'm looking at things from the perspective of people who already live somewhere and are looking for a job based on where they live.


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Posted 20 August 2019 - 07:19 PM

I'm not too keen on relying on hospitality as the economic engine for Fort Worth -- the jobs just don't pay nearly as much.

 

But more importantly, the cities of San Antonio, Orlando, Nashville, and San Diego have dramatically bigger draw attractions than Fort Worth has.

 

If you want Fort Worth to be about tourism, the first thing we need to do (since we can't put perfect weather and an ocean nearby) is build a lot more and bigger attractions.  The River Walk, the Alamo, SeaWorld, etc. are going to win out over us.  Not to mention Disney World.

 

I think Fort Worth would strike gold as tourism get-a-way for people living nearby, up to half a day's drive away. The Cultural District and Downtown may be known to Dallas and Collin county residents, but a three day excursion doesn't seem to be a consideration. The attractions Fort Worth needs to tap into this is pedestrian friendly everything.



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Posted 20 August 2019 - 09:16 PM

An economic development plan centered upon tourism will have to be robust.   The target is out of town tourists who will stay in the hotels, eat at restaurants, visit iconic attractions in Tarrant County.  Dallas/Collin County residents are not likely to do that in large numbers.

 

Fort Worth and Arlington have to attract tourists who lived 100 miles beyond Tarrant County.



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Posted 21 August 2019 - 06:39 AM

Since this is the Economic thread, I really would like some more detail on how the math works for Fort Work to be about tourism.  First, in no disrespect to our great museums and zoo, we lack a major motivating reason to visit; no natural wonders here; second, hospitality jobs are not high-paying jobs; third the majority of hospitality owners are not based in Fort Worth, so profits are exported to someplace else.  If the idea is that these visitors will spend money, just what are they spending their money on and where is that money going?

 

We are better situated to be the home of corporate headquarters.  We have plenty of open space for commercial and residential, we are centrally located just like Dallas, and share its international airport.

 

If we want to have tourism as a side-business, I'm OK with that -- but I would never put it as a primary goal unless we had preexisting natural or commercial tourist attractions.



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Posted 21 August 2019 - 12:37 PM

^Oklahoma City is a good example for how a city can create an environment locals will travel to visit. OKC has about two million folks in it's trading area, Fort Worth has more than 10 million. This would create a cityscape that appeals to the corporate office folks.

 

It starts on the ground, as in all cities lacking the natural wonders; compelling is compelling regardless. People from arts rich Dallas and Houston travel to Fort Worth for the museums all the time. Give them a place to enjoy while spending the night. 



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Posted 21 August 2019 - 02:21 PM

Developments like Clearfork and West 7th are nice too as they provide a bit of everything, they are not major destinations but certainly can add a draw for out of towners while blending office and residential space.



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Posted 21 August 2019 - 02:43 PM

For these mini-trips, I'm very surprised that Clearfork does not have a small, nice hotel yet -- maybe I missed reading about such plans.  With the restaurants, upscale retail, spas, and theater, it seems like a it would be a nice escape for people who like that kind of thing.



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Posted 21 August 2019 - 03:16 PM

For these mini-trips, I'm very surprised that Clearfork does not have a small, nice hotel yet -- maybe I missed reading about such plans.  With the restaurants, upscale retail, spas, and theater, it seems like a it would be a nice escape for people who like that kind of thing.

 

not Clearfork, but not far away, Marriott is poised to break ground later this year on a hotel at Waterside

 

https://www.star-tel...e234177937.html



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Posted 09 December 2019 - 08:38 PM

Fort Worth doing the things that are necessary in pursuit of its Economic Strategic Plan.  Fort Worth CofC hires New Director - TCU Grad with Austin, Texas expertise.

 

Fort Worth Business Press - http://www.fortworth...9ee3243e33.html



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Posted 10 December 2019 - 09:58 AM

Anyone know if she's related to the legendary Bass family?



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Posted 10 December 2019 - 10:38 AM

I doubt it.  I would imagine that detail would have been reported in the article if it were the case.



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Posted 10 December 2019 - 03:09 PM

She shouldn't be judged by her relationship what ever that may be.  I she completed her education at TCU ++++ and she is coming from the A-List City of Texas: Austin. Good enough for me.



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Posted 04 February 2020 - 10:34 AM

https://fwtx.com/bus...lling-the-city/

 

Interesting interview with Brandom Gengelbach. Sounds like they are having a hard time selling more investment into the Chamber of Commerce when the city economy is generally doing well. 



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Posted 06 February 2020 - 08:41 AM

Speaking in Fort Worth yesterday:  According to the  US Labor Secretary,  we're experiencing a "blue collar boom" and we put too much value in a four year degree in this country.  (Maybe this explains the abundance of new warehouses going up in Fort Worth instead of office buildings.)  

 

 https://www.dallasne...ue-collar-boom/

 

I am in agreement regarding the need for more technical and vocational training.  There are lots of well paying tech jobs that do not require years of school and can become just as much of a rewarding career as any profession with a four year or more degree. 



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Posted 06 February 2020 - 11:53 AM

Warehouses frequently portray a lower symbol of economic vitality, but they actually symbolized a different kind of vitality.

 

Fort Worth is an Inland Port City, located logistically at an efficiently mean distance between three coasts where goods are can be stored and processed for distribution to almost all the major populations centers in the U.S.  Rails, highways, long stretches of mild weather are largely the reasons why Logistics is striving over office space.  

 

There is a growing demand for trade and vocational skills as technology will cause more redundancy to meet efficiency. And though I believe that Andrew Yang's candidacy for U.S. President will be unsuccessful, he has been telegraphing the technological revolution that faces the workforce of the future.

 

As I have forcefully argued, economies are driven by market forces.  Office buildings can not be mandated but come about because of the willingness of investors to risk their money or to see an opportunity.  Fort Worth has been implementing the structural blocks to attract investors by emphasizing its cultural and hospitality assets.

 

We will see how this emphasis is doing in short time because it appears that already some of the kinds of investors have made a trip to Fort Worth to sample a hospitality breakthrough.  It would be hard for them to not take note of the quality of life and clean health of Downtown. I think a project is soon to come.



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Posted 11 February 2020 - 01:04 PM

Somewhat related to the city's economic development strategy is the state/city/private sector partnership known as the Texas Enterprise Zone Program.  In this FWBP article by Rick Mauch, the city has nominated MillerCoors LLC to receive capital expansion and investment funds.  I think this is a meritorious program in that it offers incentives for business and industry to expand at the same time hiring economically disadvantaged workers.

 

http://www.fortworth...1027236aba.html



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Posted 14 February 2020 - 10:56 PM

An economic development plan centered upon tourism will have to be robust.....Fort Worth and Arlington have to attract tourists who lived 100 miles beyond Tarrant County.

 

 

Since this is the Economic thread, I really would like some more detail on how the math works for Fort Work to be about tourism.  First, in no disrespect to our great museums and zoo, we lack a major motivating reason to visit; no natural wonders here; second, hospitality jobs are not high-paying jobs; third the majority of hospitality owners are not based in Fort Worth, so profits are exported to someplace else.  If the idea is that these visitors will spend money, just what are they spending their money on and where is that money going?

 

We are better situated to be the home of corporate headquarters.  We have plenty of open space for commercial and residential, we are centrally located just like Dallas, and share its international airport.

 

If we want to have tourism as a side-business, I'm OK with that -- but I would never put it as a primary goal unless we had preexisting natural or commercial tourist attractions.

 

 

.........As I have forcefully argued, economies are driven by market forces.  Office buildings can not be mandated but come about because of the willingness of investors to risk their money or to see an opportunity.  Fort Worth has been implementing the structural blocks to attract investors by emphasizing its cultural and hospitality assets.....We will see how this emphasis is doing in short time because it appears that already some of the kinds of investors have made a trip to Fort Worth to sample a hospitality breakthrough.  It would be hard for them to not take note of the quality of life and clean health of Downtown. I think a project is soon to come.

 

Visit Fort Worth plans expansion to grow tourism and I say hooray!  And there is something new and previously unheard of to my knowledge in the Forum or elsewhere -  Multi purposed Sports Complex!

 

Fort Worth Business Press - http://www.fortworth...9fff022fc0.html



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Posted 20 April 2020 - 02:22 PM

Prior to the Health and Economic Crisis that we are now experiencing, a lot of discussion centered around the kinds, quantities and quality of jobs concentrated in Fort Worth compared to other parts within the region.

 

Looks like many of the jobs that are concentrated in Fort Worth's economy are the essential jobs that are keeping the cogs of our way of life intact.  Economists have opined that working from home as white collar worker is less essential work than the blue collar work. 

 

Fort Worth is a hub or the DFW Hub for the all important Economic Supply Chain:

Understanding Supply Chains

A supply chain involves a series of steps involved to get a product or service to the customer. The steps include moving and transforming raw materials into finished products, transporting those products, and distributing them to the end-user. The entities involved in the supply chain include producers, vendors, warehouses, transportation companies, distribution centers, and retailers.

 

If you have been experiencing like I have an unprepared financial banking system (hours and service is chaotic), I think you may be able to agree that our workforce is really the bloodline in the flow of our lifestyle. 

 

 

 



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Posted 20 April 2020 - 07:45 PM

On the other end of this, I think Fort Worth and its mix of industry and lifestyle could really benefit.  Among other things that will come out of this, we've learned that we don't need fancy office towers to do work.  Where the heck did Zoom and Teams come from out of nowhere.  Renam is right.  Logistics, warehousing, transportation, and manufacturing will emerge as more important than white collar work.  They require people presence.  Along with farming and ranching.  The New York Times has an interesting story this week about how the threat of pandemic disease may dampen the zeal for dense living and mass transit.    Amazing how the world can change literally overnight.  The future belongs to the flexible.  I hope Fort Worth's leaders and entrepreneurs will be business ninjas.  Austin in its current state is in shock and not currently prepared.  I do think it's a flexible community and will learn to adapt.  I have no clue about Dallas.



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Posted 20 April 2020 - 08:03 PM

Interesting assessment regarding Austin and the fact that it has tons of high end office workers.  I think a settling unease may set in as the economy slowly reopens about staffing.  The use of new technology has emerged.

 

Fort Worth's rail, aviation and highway economy coupled with logistical apparatus such as storage capacity will be among the first wave of getting our footing back and leading us back to a new economy based on having supplies on hand at a moments notice.  I think that manufacturing is going to have a reemergence. 

 

I do still hold out hope that service and tourism will get back too.  I think places like Las Vegas, who needs to lead how to have it again, will provide the examples that tourism based economies can follow.



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Posted 20 April 2020 - 08:23 PM

My office is in downtown Austin.  I went in today (with my mask).  At lunch I took a walk through downtown.  There were a lot of boarded up windows, and graffiti covering the wooden boards.  And lots of unmasked homeless people wandering the streets.  The only activity I saw was at the construction sites.  No social distancing at those, BTW.  I wondered what these future buildings would hold and who would occupy them.  I suppose it will all even out in the future, but right now, it all looks quite apocalyptic.  Also, masks really suck when it is warm outside.  :o



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Posted 20 May 2020 - 12:19 PM

To boil this down to a problem of western heritage promotion or to suggest that anyone with a serious understanding of the issue thinks that is a ridiculous oversimplification. There is one large problem at play and one tangential secondary problem: the city has annexed and subsidized its suburban outreaches at the expense of the urban center and has allowed regional efforts to push them to a secondary role. And I would put the first problem as a far more detrimental with the second just amplifying the issue.

I disagree that annexation of land is unwise or damaging to FW in long term.  That land would have been developed regardless of FW's annexation, and would have otherwise been annexed by smaller towns, as what happened in Northeast Tarrant Co.  Those then would have competed with rather than collaborate with Fort Worth. 



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Posted 20 May 2020 - 01:04 PM

Okay.  To what end?  It's a money losing situation for the city.  Supporting these annexed areas cost more than the tax money they bring in.  So what's the benefit to the city?  I would have been just fine with Aledo absorbing Walsh Ranch or Keller absorbing Park Glen if it meant they foot the bill to provide their services.



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Posted 08 September 2020 - 11:25 PM

An economic development plan centered upon tourism will have to be robust.   The target is out of town tourists who will stay in the hotels, eat at restaurants, visit iconic attractions in Tarrant County.  Dallas/Collin County residents are not likely to do that in large numbers.
 
Fort Worth and Arlington have to attract tourists who lived 100 miles beyond Tarrant County.

 
The Big Urban Mistake: Building for Tourism vs. Livability

I'm not saying I agree with the article, but I thought it brings up some good points of discussion.  In this case, downtown Fort Worth is not the "downtown" they're talking about.  I think by "downtown" in relation to Fort Worth, they mean the neighborhoods around downtown:  The Near Southside, Race Street/Riverside, Panther Island, River District, Historic Southside, even to an extent Ridglea.  Sections of town that are being reborn.... how should they be re-envisioned?


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Posted 14 September 2020 - 06:31 PM

I'll very much subscribe to the idea that if you make your city THE BEST place to live you can, the best place for folks to run a small business, and the best place to grow artistic talent then tourists and bigger corporate relocation's will follow.

 

I feel we spend to much time trying to "win" the next corporate relocation with economic incentives and not enough time developing the local talent we have here already.

 

Thing of the big "world class" destinations people like to travel to, most (not all) are quality places to live as well. Some (Venice, Barecelona, etc) become so overrun with tourists that the local culture then suffers, but this is something that is far Far FAR removed from a concern we should have at this point in time.



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Posted 30 September 2020 - 01:55 PM

There is definitely good logic here.  Incentives are icing on the cake.  What you're talking about is focusing on making our cake excellent. 

There is also, however, some logic about incentivizing certain kinds of economic activities here, to create a critical mass of talent and corporate residents. 

Those can have strong, positive externalities (recruit additional companies, donate to local causes, support tax base). 

 

I'm in favor of dong both, but constantly reminding ourselves that we need to focus on making quality of life, city beauty, as strong as possible.  Those are investments in our future - hard to measure impact but we know it is there and if we dont it has consequences. 

 

People mention public schools - yes, essential.  But that challenges in progress there doesn't mean we don't stop improving everything else at the same time (green spaces, walkability, local/independent business, transit/mobility, ....).



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Posted 14 February 2023 - 10:12 AM

I happened upon this website on Sunday evening, has this already been posted here or is it a new website?

 

https://itbeginsinfortworth.com/



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Posted 14 February 2023 - 10:24 AM

That's a really well-done site.  I could do without the "big city, small town" emphasis, but at this point, I'm just glad they didn't highlight it on a masthead.



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Posted 14 February 2023 - 11:11 AM

That's a really well-done site.  I could do without the "big city, small town" emphasis, but at this point, I'm just glad they didn't highlight it on a masthead.

 

Whoever did the branding and taglines did a great job.  I've done plenty of those brand discovery exercises and it's hard to come up with some of those catch phrases and it looks like they came up with several useable lines.  You sort of try a few and see what sticks and what doesn't.

 

I think one of the key factors is our cost of living and affordability.  I did some TDLR searches on Parker and Johnson county the other night and Aledo ISD, Cleburne ISD, Burleson ISD, Godley ISD, Midlothian ISD, Joshua ISD, Mansfield ISD, Eagle Mountain H.S. have spent millions on new schools in recent years.



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Posted 14 March 2023 - 07:40 PM

The Fort Worth Chamber of Commerce has created the Fort Worth Economic Development Partnership, a new nonprofit to lead business recruitment and attraction for the city. The new entity will be funded by investors in the business community and be controlled by a separate board of directors of business and community leaders.

Fort Worth nabs statewide development leader to bring more businesses to town

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Posted 26 April 2023 - 11:45 AM

Wasn't sure where to put this, but the City of Fort Worth is hosting a workshop on "Development 101" on Tuesday, May 2nd from 11am to 4pm.  It's free and open to the public.  Register here if you're interested.

 

https://www.recounci...-workshop-may-2



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Posted 06 May 2023 - 02:48 PM

Wasn't sure where to put this, but the City of Fort Worth is hosting a workshop on "Development 101" on Tuesday, May 2nd from 11am to 4pm.  It's free and open to the public.  Register here if you're interested.

 

https://www.recounci...-workshop-may-2

 

I attended this last week.  Knowing nothing about development, I took away a lot of information from the 3.5 hour presentation made by the many different departments that have their fingers in building buildings and starting businesses.  It's a lot!  Thought some of y'all might want to take a look at their presentation deck:

 

https://www.fortwort...resentation.pdf



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Posted 06 May 2023 - 03:45 PM

Wow, thats a lot of good information. Thanks for posting

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Posted 14 December 2023 - 08:53 AM

Enrollment opens for 2024 Beck School of Construction class (must be certified minority, women-owned businesses and veteran and service disabled veteran-owned small businesses to participate in the Beck School of Construction)

https://www.fortwort...k-school-signup

 

Classes are Tuesday afternoon, one day per month, February through October.
 
·         Class 1: Tuesday, Feb. 27 - Marketing and Business Development
·         Class 2: Tuesday, March 26 – Risk and Insurance
·         Class 3: Tuesday, April 23 – Bids and Proposals
·         Class 4: Tuesday, May 28 - Preconstruction
·         Class 5: Tuesday, June 25 – Project Management 
·         Class 6: Tuesday, July 23 - Site visit To Be Announced
·         Class 7: Tuesday, Aug. 27 – Field Supervision
·         Class 8: Tuesday, Sep. 24 - Safety
·         Class 9: Tuesday, Oct. 22 - Accounting





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