Christ Chapel Expands
#1
Posted 25 June 2011 - 01:19 PM
http://linktothefutu...id=13&Itemid=39
#2
Posted 26 June 2011 - 12:10 PM
#3
Posted 10 August 2012 - 03:30 PM
I noticed the trailers a few weeks ago, and then I noticed a crane. Shortly thereafter, I saw some of the steel being erected. Thurman, thanks for posting the link to the flyover.
Looks as though they are at it again, this time buying up neighboring homes to put in surface parking:
http://dfw.cbslocal....ch-parking-lot/
I think the porous paving being proposed is a great idea, and probably should be required for all new surface parking installations where realistic projections show that the spaces will only be filled 20 percent of the time, like stadiums or even school remote lots. Maybe new churches should be completely restricted from residential areas via zoning regulations, and be required to locate in commercial areas where they could share parking with uses that are complementary in terms of times of use, i.e. stores that are closed or not crowded when church services are scheduled.
#4
Posted 12 August 2012 - 04:10 PM
#5
Posted 13 August 2012 - 11:37 AM
I think the porous paving being proposed is a great idea, and probably should be required for all new surface parking installations where realistic projections show that the spaces will only be filled 20 percent of the time, like stadiums or even school remote lots.
I agree. I've seen it used in Europe and it's awesome. I think it makes a lot of sense in Texas where droughts kill the grass and downpours make fields muddy. Get a good surface for driving on so cars don't get stuck, let it go natural when need be.
Maybe new churches should be completely restricted from residential areas via zoning regulations, and be required to locate in commercial areas where they could share parking with uses that are complementary in terms of times of use, i.e. stores that are closed or not crowded when church services are scheduled.
With that, though, I strongly disagree. Maybe once you get to a certain church size, this makes sense, but the vast majority of churches are much smaller, in the 100-200 member range, and they actually are good neighbors in residential areas, in much the same way elementary schools are.
#6
Posted 13 August 2012 - 12:29 PM
#8
Posted 06 September 2012 - 09:15 AM
http://www.fwweekly....ng-bout-chapel/
It's unfortunate that the commentary in discussions like this always seems to be slanted one way or another. The author compares the church's grass parking to a Wal-Mart coming into the neighborhood, which is beyond a stretch. There are also some major facts that are wrong, like the author's implication that Christ Chapel has one big service on Sundays instead of several, when he could have just looked on their website (or God forbid, attend a service while researching the article) and he would have seen that there are 3 Sunday services to spread things out.
Thousands of people want to attend the church on Sundays, so the church spent millions to build a parking garage and is creating environmentally friendly parking lots now. Church employees go out every Sunday morning and drop "no parking" cones on the street for blocks around the church just to make sure people get the message. And yet the neighbors are still pissed. I'm sorry but it just seems to me that the church has done what they could. The neighbors should take a trip on Sunday morning over to Dallas to Highland Park United Methodist or one of those churches, where parishoners fill up the on-street parking for 5 blocks in every direction, and maybe they would change their tune. Or maybe not...people do love to gripe.
#9
Posted 06 September 2012 - 11:29 AM
From Design Warrior
#10
Posted 07 September 2012 - 10:37 AM
... Since this church is already built, they should offer to build some vertical garden structures that would physically (and beautifully) separate it from its residential neighbors. See Design Warrior:
VERY cool sculpture/painting recreation! At a minimum the church should dedicate some sort of greenbelt on the side of its property facing residences; but given the way their property has already been developed this would be at the expense of parking, the main bone of contention with residents. Converting all the remote parking used only once a week to ports design would be a good move, IMO. The way I understand the issue only the new parking is scheduled for this treatment.
As regards the appropriateness of churches in neighborhoods: Residential zoning should be restricted to residential. Churches, synagogues, etc. are not residential, also banks, shops, and auto garages. In a secular environment churches, especially the massive organizations like the one in question, are corporations; businesses with a mission (pun intended). They should be allowed in areas set aside for businesses. Mixed use zoning presents an exception to the above, in my view.
#11
Posted 09 September 2012 - 10:28 PM
#12
Posted 10 September 2012 - 09:48 AM
TCU is purchasing homes and converting them to parking lots at a much greater rate than Christ Chapel, and I don't see a huge outcry, nor a front page expose in the Weekly. Perhaps Christ Chapel should field a football team and then all would be forgiven? (pun intended)
Ha. Excellent point too.
#13
Posted 10 September 2012 - 11:46 AM
#14
Posted 06 October 2020 - 08:40 PM
Snapped a quick photo of Christ Chapel Fort Worth on my way back from Airfield Falls this evening.
(Also posting this photo in the Paradox Church thread as an example for that project...same architect, Scott Martsolf)
#15
Posted 16 October 2020 - 04:33 PM
TCU is purchasing homes and converting them to parking lots at a much greater rate than Christ Chapel, and I don't see a huge outcry, nor a front page expose in the Weekly. Perhaps Christ Chapel should field a football team and then all would be forgiven? (pun intended)
Nah, I think people in neighborhoods near TCU have been dismayed by the university's removal of houses in favor of surface parking lots.
#16
Posted 06 October 2023 - 10:51 AM
https://www.tdlr.tex.../TABS2024002559
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