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#1 Fort Worthology

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 12:30 PM

This is the conversion of the current All Needz Plumbing building on South Main in the Near Southside into 18 lofts above ground-floor retail.  Involves a total redesign and an extra floor added.

 

Current:

 

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Planned:

 

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 01:13 PM

Thats the same building?! Impressive.



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Posted 17 March 2015 - 02:01 PM

Yeah, they're planning to add a third floor and totally redo the thing.


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Posted 17 March 2015 - 05:18 PM

*salivating*

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Posted 18 March 2015 - 06:37 AM

Wonderful transformation planned here.  If these splendid rehab and redesign projects continue throughout South Main Street I bet in a few years we won't recognize this area for what it formerly was.



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Posted 24 March 2015 - 12:03 PM

Think is premature to view this as a certain project.

This appears to be a new project and marketing renderings. 



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Posted 24 March 2015 - 12:27 PM

Rahr is about to get even busier.



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Posted 25 March 2015 - 03:08 PM

I like the old gritty building better....the new rendering looks like a So7 project....it's not that the new one looks bad, but it doesn't really respond to the character of the area.



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Posted 25 March 2015 - 06:19 PM

I like the old gritty building better....the new rendering looks like a So7 project....it's not that the new one looks bad, but it doesn't really respond to the character of the area.

 

Gotta have SOME diversity. 


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Posted 25 March 2015 - 06:34 PM

I dunno...it just looks pablum to me...a little like a bloated Walgreens...I mean it's okay, but just ordinary and doesn't seem to fit the area....I would just like to see more inventiveness....not trendy, just original.



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Posted 25 March 2015 - 07:46 PM

Oh, c'mon...  the old building looks like something in Deep Ellum minus the graffiti.  I will take the new version over that old crap any day of the week.  Besides, I understand about the "Near Southside" but what is wrong with a little W7th sophistication??? 



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Posted 25 March 2015 - 10:21 PM

I don't have a strong opinion about the new design of the building. I'm glad residential is planned. If the quality of the work is good and it attracts activity, bring it on. It was a pretty utilitarian building to begin with and I doubt the original designers were trying to create something of lasting beauty.



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Posted 26 March 2015 - 02:05 AM

Sorry, guys, I should shut up and not come down so hard on this, but I see a lot of mediocre design heralded here in Fort Worth. I don't see a lot of sophisticated design off W7th and this certainly ain't sophisticated.Though the original owners may not have created anything of lasting beauty do we have to continue that trend? I know it's easy to be an armchair designer; I also realize that the architect's hands may have been tied as clients usually want cheap and fast. IMHO this project could be Anywhere, USA and doesn't really take any design cues from its immediate environment. It's just boring.

 

A simple thing would be to take off the "tower" treatment (so it reads horizontally as the original building did) and the "awning" (that design is so overused). Inset the entry. Strip the brick of its painted finish and let it be its gritty self. Add the new windows....like steel awning style.. :) The 3rd floor could be contrasting brick or a metal...maybe w/ more glass and some insets for small rooftop patios (but large enough for small trees in planter boxes)....the patios could be enclosed w/ pipe railing. Just one idea. I'd just like to see more innovation and less suburban slickness. 



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Posted 14 October 2016 - 02:05 AM

I believe this has a new design. This design better reflects the historic character of the street. 

 

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Work should start late this year or early 2017.



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Posted 15 October 2016 - 02:50 AM

Wow, that's quite a switch! I love that retail goes all the way down the street and even if wrapped in early 20th century motifs I love the blocky simplicity of the design in form and materials. I wonder if those are cast iron window headers!



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Posted 27 July 2017 - 05:09 PM

Soon to be home to Fort Worth's first cidery.

http://www.fwtx.com/...-near-southside

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 07:43 PM

Awesome.... I'm kinda excited about a cidery although I'm not really into ciders. A least not yet.

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Posted 02 August 2017 - 10:05 PM

Also worth noting, doesn't sound like it will have the 3rd floor added anymore. All the recent renders show just 2. Looks like the residential part was dropped as well as it's just offices on 2nd level.

 

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Posted 02 August 2017 - 10:40 PM

Slightly disappointed that it is losing the third floor but I still really like the design and I think it will fit in well within the area

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Posted 23 April 2018 - 11:28 AM

I rode my bicycle down Main St yesterday and noticed this building has been totally gutted, pretty much just the outside walls remain.  The brickwork around some of the windows has been redone.


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Posted 23 April 2018 - 07:44 PM

Here's yet another new render

 

https://www.instagra...ken-by=710smain



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Posted 23 April 2018 - 09:02 PM

Here's yet another new render

 

https://www.instagra...ken-by=710smain

Looks like the design got simplified. 


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Posted 24 April 2018 - 07:39 AM

 

Here's yet another new render

 

https://www.instagra...ken-by=710smain

Looks like the design got simplified. 

 

Yeah.  It's kinda bland now.  Functional but kinda forgettable.



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Posted 24 April 2018 - 07:44 AM

I wonder what Locust thinks of the change?  I mean, they signed up for a certain look which is not there anymore.


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Posted 24 April 2018 - 11:18 AM

Think they could add elements like Hooters at City Place?

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Posted 24 April 2018 - 12:03 PM

wut.


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Posted 24 April 2018 - 12:18 PM

I immediately thought of this:

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Posted 24 April 2018 - 12:39 PM

It is bland but it's basically just the building as is now but fixed up. I kinda like it.

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Posted 24 April 2018 - 05:17 PM

why is this in the residential section?... it seems like its more commercial

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Posted 24 April 2018 - 06:08 PM

From the first post, it looks like it was originally lofts over retail. Probably more mixed use even then than straight residential.

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Posted 24 April 2018 - 08:31 PM

wut.

 

A better, more subtle example of what I meant:

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Posted 25 April 2018 - 05:47 AM

Back to the artist drawing (Post#21), I also think it's bland-looking...a modernized pill box.  Added observation about new construction on south Main...no high-rise buildings.  Someone correct me if I'm in error.  I guess developers think south Main is not a part of downtown. 



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Posted 25 April 2018 - 06:15 AM

It isn't. But that likely doesn't have anything to do with no high rises on South Main. If there was money to be made building high rises there, someone would be doing it.

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Posted 27 April 2018 - 07:57 PM

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 03:12 PM

Black White and Brew joining Locust Cider in 710 S Main. 

 

http://www.fortworth...0bbfcc5997.html

 

 

The news release said that Black White & Brew considered sites in Deep Ellum and the Bishop Arts District but were drawn to Fort Worth because of the old town yet modern feel, the arts, and the culture.

 


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Posted 13 July 2018 - 04:59 PM

Back to the artist drawing (Post#21), I also think it's bland-looking...a modernized pill box.  Added observation about new construction on south Main...no high-rise buildings.  Someone correct me if I'm in error.  I guess developers think south Main is not a part of downtown. 

Depending on your definition of high-rise, there are two main reasons you haven't seen any buildings over about 5-6 stories:

1) Market rent: To justify the higher cost of concrete high-rise construction, rent would likely need to be north of $3.00/SF. 

2) There are still a few available sites to build wrap and podium buildings (what's being built now: 4-6 stories, wood construction, sometimes over a concrete podium).  When those sites are totally exhausted, then multifamily developers (assuming demand justifies new construction at that time) will have to consider alternate, smaller footprint projects including concrete structures and for smaller, entrepreneurial developers, it might make sense to build smaller "missing middle" projects to fill in those gaps.

3) Form Based Codes:  Appears the NSS FBC caps the height at 10 floors, so even if/when demand justifies that type of building, it would have to fit under the max height. 

 

Its really heartwarming to see the progress happening on South Main and all the good local creative entrepreneurs doing much of the work:

 

My partner in several of these, Dak Hatfield has done a great job with several buildings, then there are: 

Eddie Vanston & Tom Reynolds, Lorie & Tucker Henderson, Jesse Stamper, M2G & Cornerstone, the Farmers, Craig Kelley, the 411 team, and the Townsends (Roots Coffee) - probably missed a few! 

 

Our company has three small creative office (and retail) buildings (126 South Main, 916 Bryan Ave, 459-461 Jennings Ave) in/around the South Main Village.  We love the community and entrepreneurial vibe.   Looking forward to more redevelopment opportunities to make more, and hopefully much larger, positive impact on the Near Southside and Fort Worth. 

 

Now, let's all go patronize those businesses so this works!



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Posted 31 August 2018 - 01:04 PM

The roof has been on for a while. Windows and ground floor storefront is going in now.


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Posted 14 October 2018 - 03:54 PM

The roof and floors are back on and the exterior has been painted over,

 

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Posted 14 October 2018 - 05:23 PM

wow... Im not a fan of this at all.

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Posted 14 October 2018 - 05:31 PM

Tbh, I'm not sure how I feel about the trend of painting over weathered brick with some sort of mural.

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Posted 14 October 2018 - 05:34 PM

The roof and floors are back on and the exterior has been painted over,

 

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Wow!  Just a subjective taste thing.  I really like this and think it will add some color to the neighborhood.  Can't wait to come visit.



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Posted 14 October 2018 - 05:43 PM

I wasnt aware that it was painted brick... that does change things a bit for my initial impression m. I actually thought they just replaced the old exterior with a flat cement wal and then painted it.

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Posted 14 October 2018 - 05:59 PM

The building before it was remodeled was painted brick.



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Posted 14 October 2018 - 06:07 PM

IMO, that paint job would be fine on a blank side wall without windows.

 

But, it's weird on this building since it's on walls with windows.


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Posted 14 October 2018 - 06:11 PM

I was a big fan of the look from this prior rendering, 

 

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Simple.



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Posted 14 October 2018 - 06:30 PM

The 3-story rendering on post #14 looked good. And, it probably still would've looked good at two stories.

 

This paint job is a letdown.


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Posted 14 October 2018 - 11:03 PM

I like it!



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Posted 15 October 2018 - 05:50 AM

Depends somewhat on the kind of tenants you have.  Professional offices (lawyers, doctors, dentists, etc.) might not be a good fit.  Maybe an art gallery or artist studios.



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Posted 15 October 2018 - 08:21 AM

The roof and floors are back on and the exterior has been painted over,

 

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I just threw up in my mouth a little.

 

It will certainly stand out, won't it?

 

EDIT:  I think I found the inspiration for the paint scheme.

 

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Posted 15 October 2018 - 10:23 PM

710 reported on instagram that the remainder of the space in the buildings has been taken by The Work Lodge, a corworking group.







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