Hockey Back in Fort Worth?
#1
Posted 15 October 2012 - 06:42 AM
Some games this season are also said to be played at the convention center again, with the return to Will Rogers hopefully next year.
Any thoughts?......inside info?
I enjoy the intimacy and convenience of watching hockey at NYTEX in North Richland Hills, but I think from the standpoints of marketing, team pride and nostalgia, a permanent return to Fort Worth would be preferable.......
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#2
Posted 15 October 2012 - 08:11 AM
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#3
Posted 15 October 2012 - 11:02 AM
#4
Posted 15 October 2012 - 04:31 PM
How much does it cost to equip an already existing stadium for ice? anyone know? Seems like it'd be an awful lot of money vs just staying at a place like NyTex.
#5
Posted 16 October 2012 - 12:06 AM
This is Fort Worth, Texas, not Billings, Montana.
#6
Posted 23 October 2012 - 01:48 PM
#7
Posted 23 October 2012 - 02:47 PM
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#8
Posted 24 October 2012 - 05:21 AM
Nice! I saw my Caps get whooped by the Stars from 3 rows off the glass, and saw the Tornado play from 2 rows back, but haven't actually been on the glass (yet)!
Call them up, Ron! To me hockey is hockey...still a bunch of seats left for the FWCC games.....even better at NYTEX.....loudest, and smallest, venue in the CHL. Brahmas fans were voted the "Most Annoying" last season by the teams.
#9
Posted 24 October 2012 - 06:35 AM
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#11
Posted 24 October 2012 - 11:52 AM
From FW Business Press:
http://fwbusinesspre...ArticleID=23729
This is a good article. It explains the risky nature of the minor league professional hockey business. The CHL just yesterday took over the Quad City Mallards for lack of ownership to try and keep the franchise afloat; see:
http://www.centralho...article_id=8699
The teams in McAllen and Laredo folded this year and two others went to the East Coast Hockey League (ECHL). A new franchise came to Denver this year and one will be in Missouri next year, so hopefully the CHL can stay viable.
If Will Rogers could be renovated it would seat more fans and is in the growing part of downtown for entertainment. If the Brahmas can play there it would also help them move into a bigger league such as the ECHL at some point.
I'm hopeful of the potential!
#12
Posted 28 October 2012 - 01:38 PM
#13
Posted 29 October 2012 - 05:50 AM
with the nhl in lockout, the team here should be promoting their game aggressively. bringing it back to fort worth would also be a plus
Unfortunately, team promotion has been lacking, which is to say, non-existent. Hopefully the new ownership group will be able to address this.
The attendance at the Brahmas' first two games of the season this past Friday and Saturday was average at best, with some of the folks coming down from Allen.
Hockey is popular in DFW at the recreational and youth levels also. I played in a golf tournament Saturday benefitting the Keller High School Hockey Club and the turnout was strong. Many schools have affiliated private hockey clubs and there are many youth and adult leagues around as well.
So far, there are four Brahmas games scheduled to be played at the FWCC this season; two in January and two in March, which is twice as many as last year.
Hoping that the word gets out and the owners do begin to promote aggeressively......
#14
Posted 29 October 2012 - 07:21 AM
#15
Posted 30 October 2012 - 02:38 AM
Never been a big fan of hockey in the convention center because the place is so doggone big. Put 3500 hockey fans in Will Rogers and the place in rockin' - Put 3500 fans in the Convention center and the place is like a mausoleum.
#16
Posted 30 October 2012 - 06:28 AM
I think Will Rogers would be preferable as well, from a nostalgic standpoint as well as its location and proximity to the 7th Street corridor and all the new stuff going in and on there, but the Stock Show would take away many dates and the city would prefer to use a new convention center....never know though!
#17
Posted 31 October 2012 - 03:02 PM
Will Rogers would be their preferred home if the ice plant was upgraded, but its existing ice is so poor nobody wants to skate on it. Hopefully a new ice plant can be installed at Will Rogers before next year.
#18
Posted 31 October 2012 - 08:02 PM
I'd believe Electricon is right, they'll be in NRH untill Will Rogers is fixed up.
#19
Posted 01 November 2012 - 06:41 AM
- 1/4/13 against Rapid City (got my tix!!)
- 1/5/13 against Tulsa
- 3/15/13 against Allen
- 3/16/13 against Allen
Will continue the tradition stared after last year's two games of going to Jake's for a burger afterwards.......
#20
Posted 20 November 2012 - 06:30 AM
http://www.brahmas.c...article_id=1629
The dates are:
Friday, November 30, 7:30pm vs. Arizona Sundogs
Saturday, December 1, 7:30pm vs. Tulsa Oilers
Saturday, December 22, 7:30pm vs. Missouri Mavericks
Friday, January 4, 7:30pm vs. Rapid City Rush
Saturday, January 5, 7:30pm vs. Tulsa Oilers
Friday, March 15, 7:30pm vs. Allen Americans
Saturday, March 16, 7:30pm vs. Allen Americans
#21
Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:02 PM
#22
Posted 03 December 2012 - 11:30 AM
http://www.star-tele...n-to-their.html
http://www.star-tele...as-feeling.html
I was at the Friday night game.....spent some money at Jake's before the game.
Looking forward to December 22!
#23
Posted 20 December 2012 - 09:32 AM
Big Mike's Box of Rock performing in the lobby before the game!
#24
Posted 07 January 2013 - 07:54 AM
The Brahmas are 5-0 this season so far at the FWCC.
Don't know if that will stand when the goons from Allen come to town but it's been good so far, The only drawback has been the extremely cold temperatures in the coliseum. Sure it's ice hockey, but it's been way too cold inside even for that!
It will be interesting to see if the NHL lockout resolution/screwing over of the fans affects attendance......
#25
Posted 08 January 2013 - 12:32 AM
I just really hope this city gets a new arena sooner than later.
I'm sick of seeing the outdated "UFO" down Main Street...
#26
Posted 12 February 2013 - 10:08 AM
FORT WORTH BRAHMAS PRESS RELEASE
Media Contact: Josh Tannenbaum
Director of Communications
(817) 520-3311
jtannenbaum@brahmas.com
www.brahmas.com
CHAD WOOLLARD ANNOUNCES RETIREMENT
VETERAN TO PLAY FINAL PRO GAME FRIDAY
FORT WORTH, Texas (February 11) - The Fort Worth Brahmas’ franchise-leading scorer Chad Woollard announced his retirement from professional hockey Monday afternoon to pursue another opportunity unrelated to hockey. After 14 seasons, eight of which he played for the Brahmas, the veteran winger will play his last game Friday, February 15 versus the Allen Americans at the NYTEX Sports Centre.
Woollard is the Brahmas all-time leader in every major offensive category, including games played (452), goals (218), assists (225), points (443), penalty minutes (858), power-play goals (59), game-winning goals (29) and hat tricks (7).
The Durham, Ontario native also stands among the top Central Hockey League players in the league’s 21-year history. Woollard ranks fifth in goals (295), 15th in points (575) and tied for 14th in games played (569), just one game shy of Jamie Hearn for 13th.
“Chad has had a great career and is one of the best scorers this league has ever seen,” Brahmas Head Coach Dan Wildfong said Monday. “He has meant a lot to this organization over the years and I am happy for him and his family.”
Woollard spent his first five full seasons in Fort Worth before making stops with the Quad City Mallards (UHL), Mississippi Riverkings (CHL), Muskegon Lumberjacks (IHL) and Corpus Christi Ice Rayz (CHL). He then returned to the Brahmas in 2010 to have his most productive statistical season as a pro. In 65 games during the 2010-11 campaign, Woollard scored a career-high and league-best 46 goals, assisted on 46 more, and finished tied for fifth in the CHL with 92 points.
Woollard led the Brahmas in scoring again in 2011-12, netting 60 points (26 goals, 34 assists) in 62 games played.
In 35 games this season, the 6-foot-3, 210-pound forward has notched 27 points (14 goals, 13 assists) and racked up 41 penalty minutes. The Brahmas are 13-2-1 in games when Woollard records a point.
The Brahmas will honor Woollard’s career with the franchise before the team hosts the Allen Americans Friday, February 15 at 7:30pm at the NYTEX Sports Centre. The first 800 fans in attendance will receive a free, limited-edition Chad Woollard trading card.
#27
Posted 13 February 2013 - 12:06 AM
How about trying this story on for size by ST http://www.star-tele...er-holding.html
#28
Posted 13 February 2013 - 12:10 AM
HOLY HELL YES.
That would be so awesome. I know we have been wanting a pro team here, but even just a few games from one (My favorite to).
An NHL game at Will Rogers=So needs to happen.
This just made my night haha.
#29
Posted 13 February 2013 - 07:08 AM
I read about that in Fort Worth Weekly also (http://www.fwweekly....-to-fort-worth/)
It's interesting that the Stars are showing interest in Fort Worth after all these years.
Could the Brahmas changing their name back to the Fort Worth Brahmas and playing more games downtown have anything to do with that as well as bitter fans from the lockout and sky-high ticket prices?
It's also interesting that former Stars Mike Modano, Craig Ludwig, Richard Matvichuk, and Ed Belfour became minority owners of the crosstown rival Allen Americans, who are playing two games downtown in March against the Brahmas. Mike Modano has also taken on a PR type job with the Stars to promote the team. I wonder if he's seen the value of Fort Worth hockey fans and has enlightened Lites and crew?
There are also rumors (hopes?) of ice coming back to a remodeled Will Rogers...that would be great!
Whatever the reason for the Stars' interest, that, coupled with the success of the Brahmas (currently in second place and getting ready for the playoffs) should bode well for professional hockey and its fans in Fort Worth.
#30
Posted 13 February 2013 - 11:13 AM
Fort Worth Brahamas, yes, Fort Worth Stars, No (if that's what y'all our thinking). I'm no hockey expert, but I suspect all the Stars are doing (as the FW Weekly article says) is expanding their fan base to include the "far western suburb" of Dallas (my quote, sorry for my sarcasm). If anything, allowing the Stars to train in Fort Worth may make it more difficult for Fort Worth to ever get a major hockey team. The NHL can say, sorry, Fort Worth, but the Stars serve the entire DFW market, and that's sufficient.
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#31
Posted 13 February 2013 - 12:15 PM
And it is sufficient. Considering how far south we are, I think this market is fortunate to have one NHL franchise. Look at Atlanta: Twice failed, can't see them getting NHL hockey ever again.
I'm from Buffalo and it's heretical for me to say this, but if the Stars move their training camp to Fort Worth (and I get the opportunity to watch), I might actually become a dedicated fan.
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#32
Posted 13 February 2013 - 05:39 PM
Yea no way could FW support an NHL team,but sharing the team across the metroplex could be a lot of fun. The Stars don't generate much buzz West of 360, it's mostly Brahmas town.
Having a pro game in a 9,000 seat arena would probably be insane. Like a southern winter classic.
The TRE is really great for getting to Stars games at AAC btw.
#34
Posted 15 February 2013 - 11:57 AM
Having a pro game in a 9,000 seat arena would probably be insane. Like a southern winter classic.
What's "classic" about playing the winter classic in an indoor arena, like they do every other game of the season? I think the novelty of the winter classic is that it's played outdoors.
#35
Posted 27 February 2013 - 04:24 PM
Having a pro game in a 9,000 seat arena would probably be insane. Like a southern winter classic.What's "classic" about playing the winter classic in an indoor arena, like they do every other game of the season? I think the novelty of the winter classic is that it's played outdoors.
It's "classic" because it goes back to its roots of playing on ponds outdoors...
As for Fort Worth getting NHL.... OF COURSE it's not gonna happen. There are very few Sunbelt cities that are good for having hockey and Dallas is one of them (with Houston as the best "outside chance" in the future), so I doubt the DFW area would have enough support for 2 NHL teams. I like hockey and support the Stars, while also supporting the Brahmas as the lil' local team for city pride, sort of like with the Rangers and the Cats, even though technically the Rangers belong to us, but just in case there are some Dallasites here, let's not get into that.
This discussion of whether or not the DFW area can support two teams in the same league have come up several times in the last decade and even heard this on 105 The Fan not too long ago. The guys were talking about having two NBA teams in Dallas (ridiculous) a 2nd MLB club with the ballpark located near downtown Dallas (more plausible and has been seriously discussed before, but still not happening for at least another 20 years) and a 2nd NFL team that would play in the Cotton Bowl (there's a better chance Arlington becoming the largest city in America NEXT year than that ever happening with the Cowboys around), but I still stick with my opinion that we should have a 2nd NBA team and/or MLS club here on the west side of the Metroplex as the best chance of a 2nd anything in this area.
I think the Brahmas would be better as an AHL team for Dallas, but that's as far as I'd go.
#36
Posted 05 June 2013 - 01:38 AM
the stars are going to hold their fall training camp at the convention center and they'll be staying at the omni .... and today when the stars new owner was talking about the jerseys he mentioned fort worth. they're obviously wanting to broaden their reach. it's nice
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#37
Posted 05 June 2013 - 04:54 AM
Meh.....the Stars won't be anywhere near Fort Worth after this publicity stunt....the new sweaters are a yawn too IMO.
The Brahmas are gone, thanks to the financial irresponsibility of the Mike Atkinson fronted owner group.
Players, staff and season ticket holders have all been screwed out of medical bill payments, paychecks, and season ticket deposits.
I have no interest in going to Allen or Dallas to watch hockey or a watching a training camp downtown.....sad that there is no more hockey in the Fort Worth area.
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#38
Posted 05 June 2013 - 12:35 PM
I'd definitely check out the training camps. I'll agree the new Jerseys are mediocre at best.
As far as going to games, It's easy enough to jump on the TRE and it drops you off right at the AAC. My dad and I had season tickets last year and plan on renewing them.
#39
Posted 05 June 2013 - 04:04 PM
I dig the new logo and the new jerseys.
I'll be at the convention center anytime they come to town. When is this training camp? Is this a summer thing or the period leading up to preseason in early September?
#40
Posted 12 June 2013 - 03:57 AM
I dig the new logo and the new jerseys.
I'll be at the convention center anytime they come to town. When is this training camp? Is this a summer thing or the period leading up to preseason in early September?
it's the two week period before the season opens late september. it's kinda of a big deal for them to want to have their training camp out here .... the major dallas sports teams are only now taking notice of the commerce and hence money of the general fort worth population. it's probably in part why the cowboys moved to arlington
as for the jerseys ... can't get used to that logo. they over thought it. i like the colors though
#41
Posted 12 June 2013 - 09:24 AM
I think Fort Worth should resign itself to the fact that we're severely challenged when it comes to producing ice worth skating on.
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#42
Posted 12 June 2013 - 10:01 AM
I think Fort Worth should resign itself to the fact that we're severely challenged when it comes to producing ice worth skating on.
That is an issue. Amid the now displaced optimism at the beginning of the Brahmas' season was the hope that the Will would receive a new ice plant and hockey would return there if/when the Brahmas came back to Fort Worth. It would have been a perfect location in the now bustling and expanding 7th Street area.
The ice at the FWCC is inconsistent at best...plus it's VERY cold in the arena...not sure how the stunt by the Stars will turn out...
#44
Posted 12 June 2013 - 05:27 PM
Meh.....the Stars won't be anywhere near Fort Worth after this publicity stunt....the new sweaters are a yawn too IMO.
I just don't get the hatred for the new uniforms.
I mean, what do you WANT them to look like? These....?
#45
Posted 13 June 2013 - 04:58 AM
Meh.....the Stars won't be anywhere near Fort Worth after this publicity stunt....the new sweaters are a yawn too IMO.
I just don't get the hatred for the new uniforms.
I don't really hate them. I just think they are kind of blah....the lack of gold in the scheme makes them a bit dull to me as well. Still not quite sure on the logo, either. Maybe it'll grow on me...
#47
Posted 13 June 2013 - 08:18 AM
I mean, what do you WANT them to look like? These....?
Ew. What low-level minor league team is that?
That's actually an old Stars third jersey I believe....
#48
Posted 15 June 2013 - 10:27 PM
I dig the new logo and the new jerseys....the major dallas sports teams are only now taking notice of the commerce and hence money of the general fort worth population. it's probably in part why the cowboys moved to arlington
as for the jerseys ... can't get used to that logo. they over thought it. i like the colors though
Had they incorporated twin stars into the new jersey with perhaps a "DFW" moniker; then maybe I might find a reason to warm up to the Dallas Hockey Stars...maybe. To desire Fort Worth/Tarrant County is to show it some respect. Is there even a Stars Pro Shop in Fort Worth?
#49
Posted 16 June 2013 - 07:16 PM
Had they incorporated twin stars into the new jersey with perhaps a "DFW" moniker; then maybe I might find a reason to warm up to the Dallas Hockey Stars...maybe. To desire Fort Worth/Tarrant County is to show it some respect. Is there even a Stars Pro Shop in Fort Worth?
There's a Stars shop at the Euless Dr. Pepper Star Center ice rink on Pipeline just west of Industrial Blvd but none in Fort Worth proper that I'm aware of......
#50
Posted 20 June 2013 - 05:03 AM
The Star Telegram has the demise of the Brahmas:
http://www.star-tele...lines-fortworth
Sadly, the only entity mentioned that is owed money by the AWOL owners is the city of Fort Worth.
Players and team staff have not been paid. Injured players' medical bills have not been paid. Players have been evicted from their apartments. Season ticket holders have been screwed out of their deposits for next year.
Sad ending to professional hockey in Fort Worth...
UPDATE: 2:00PM: article has been updated with quotes from Mike Barack; maybe all is not lost....
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