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#51 JBB

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 08:57 AM

I haven't heard anything other than the interim plan to use it as green space. The lack of immdieate plans probably made the slow demolition more economical. Proximity to a working hospital probably played into that as well. It would be difficult to shut off access to JPS and possibly evacuate rooms facing the St. Joseph's property for an implosion.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 10:41 AM

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Having perused all the previous posts here, I noted the decision not to implode. Anyone know, or have a guess, as to why a quick implosion was passed over for this months' process of demolition?


I think I remember seeing something a long time ago that they wanted to salvage bricks for a plaza, but I could be wrong.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 10:45 AM

Here are some photos from this morning, 12/07:

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#54 John T Roberts

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 04:43 PM

I was by there today with my camera, and the eastern part of the building is now gone. I will upload my photos soon. Dave, I was noticing one thing from your parking garage shot, there is now a great view of the skyline. I also remember there was a pretty good view of the skyline from the entrance to the old hospital. When they turn it over to green space, there might be some new skyline photo opportunities.

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 04:12 PM

I agree, John. I will need to get a zoom lens to take advantage of that opportunity! If anyone has a good Nikon zoom lens, I might be interested!

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 09:11 PM

Dave and John, thanks for the pics.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 10:14 AM

Even though I haven't posted any photographs of the demolition over the last few days, I have taken them. I was there last night and they were down to the last bay of the hospital with a stair on the west side of the building. The City of Fort Worth has closed Main Street today because of fear of collapse of 13 stories of brick wall and the stairwell, once the last bay of the hospital rooms have been removed. When I was there last night, I felt that it would be the last picture that I took with a portion of the building standing.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 09:53 PM

Here are the last several days of demolition progress photographs.

December 5, 2012:
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December 6, 2012: This was the last day the eastern part of the building was standing.
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December 7, 2012:
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I didn't get a chance to take any pictures over the weekend, but I returned on Monday. I actually thought that this would be my last photograph of any major part of the building still standing. This was taken on December 10, 2012:
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The westernmost portion of the tower was a stair that ran from the basement to the roof. As I reported earlier, the city closed Main Street for fear of the 13 story west wall of the building collapsing on cars below. I might have been able to get to my usual north side vantage point, but that was where they were turning traffic around on Main. This photo was taken on Magnolia Ave., one block to the north. It looks as if this will be my last photo of any part of the tower standing. It was taken on December 11, 2012.
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Posted 12 December 2012 - 06:28 AM

There was a video showing the remains of the last tower at St. Josephs being pulled down on the KXAS Ch. 5 website:

http://www.nbcdfw.com/video/#!/news/local/Crews-Finish-Demolition-of-St--Joseph/183112621

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:30 AM

When I was leaving, I noticed they had a couple of workers in a large cherry picker up against the building. I thought they might be attaching cables to the stairwell so that they might pull it down later in the evening, and that's exactly what they did.

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Posted 24 September 2014 - 10:26 PM

Noticed on Boka Powell's site a concept for the hospital, beautiful looking building. 

 

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Posted 24 September 2014 - 11:26 PM

Noticed on Boka Powell's site a concept for the hospital, beautiful looking building. 

 

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Wow, that's... totally different. 

Which is something I welcome. 


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Posted 24 September 2014 - 11:44 PM

The concept drawings are great, but I don't like the plan to close off main street for several blocks... bad idea for the area.



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Posted 25 September 2014 - 07:45 AM

I agree with RD.  That was the second thing I noticed.  We are creating too many superblocks in this city.



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Posted 25 September 2014 - 07:49 AM

Yea, surely that wouldn't happen. It's main street. Maybe just lazy drawing?

 

I also wish they turn over the part lining Magnolia to developers, Magnolia deserves to be lined with business not parking lots. 



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Posted 25 September 2014 - 08:17 AM

That design is really unique, but I can't see any wisdom in creating a superblock.

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Posted 25 September 2014 - 08:19 AM

Whether it's happening or not, I wish it wasn't spread out to 3 wide wings. Instead, I'd rather it just be one tall building.

 

I'm not saying that as a skyscraper/high rise enthusiast. I'm saying it more as someone who doesn't want to see a building that's NOT a stadium or arena take up THAT much space. Especially in that part of town.


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Posted 25 September 2014 - 03:17 PM

I agree with RD.  That was the second thing I noticed.  We are creating too many superblocks in this city.

 

As one who don't mind one or two superblocks in a city our size . I am pretty ticked off if Main Street dead ends ! Lord I hope Austin55 is right. Maybe the artist did not get all information ? But what if this is true ? Surely they would have to have a public meeting before going forward right ?



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Posted 25 September 2014 - 08:15 PM

I like the unusual building design, but not the Main Street closure.

 

Anyone else noticed the odd location of the proposed transit center? Magnolia doesn't cross the railroad tracks or the freeway to the east, and Main St to the south would be closed. How are busses supposed to arrive from the east or south?


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Posted 25 September 2014 - 11:11 PM

Anyone else noticed the odd location of the proposed transit center? Magnolia doesn't cross the railroad tracks or the freeway to the east, and Main St to the south would be closed. How are busses supposed to arrive from the east or south?

 

Perhaps they're thinking long term... but yeah, it would seem to make more sense to have a transit center on Rosedale or something. 


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Posted 26 September 2014 - 12:16 AM

I think it's just laziness. Main St. does a small curve starting near Morphy St. That isn't in the renderings.   

 

The facility does look nice. 


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Posted 26 September 2014 - 07:23 PM

I think it's just laziness. Main St. does a small curve starting near Morphy St. That isn't in the renderings.   

 

The facility does look nice. 

 

I hope so . Someone going to JPS in am emergency probably will not be at their best driving at that moment. One thing that comes to mind . Their is a street between the old Beth El Synagogue and Broadway Baptist Church. It looks like one parking lot for Broadway . But their is a public street with street signs threw it. St Lewis Ave.



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Posted 05 August 2015 - 06:45 AM

ST reporting on JPS's bond package, which had been facing opposition in the past. $809 million. Sounds like a few years away. Article here.

 

 

JPS outlines some of the plans on its website, 

 

-10 story, 739,011 sqft, $609 million patient tower, to be located East of Main.

-Additional parking containing 2,300 spaces

-New Central utility plant

-5 story, 220,000 sqft, $102 million Psychiatric hospital

-$94 million is renovations to existing facilities. 

 

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BTW, not sure if this is the proper thread or what.



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Posted 05 August 2015 - 07:42 AM

Impressive.


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Posted 05 August 2015 - 07:57 AM

It's also interesting to note that the addition that is on the south side of the main tower portion of the hospital was designed to have more floors added on top of it.  That addition is only currently two stories.



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Posted 06 August 2015 - 01:25 PM

I work as a Healthcare IT consultant and see how healthcare works up close from a lot of different angles and Fort Worth/Tarrant County's healthcare infrastructure falls far short of meeting the needs of a city and county that will have one and two million residents respectively.  

 

I would love to see a better plan. Would love to see Warren Buffet or Alice Walton pull the cash out of their bank accounts.

 

Don't see any reason why Tarrant county voters shouldn't be allowed to decide whether or not the current proposal is good or not. Telling me the proposal is "detrimental” and a “boondoggle" means nothing without any data as to why. :closedeyes:



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Posted 06 August 2015 - 02:24 PM

Yeah, you might want to do a Google search about the Waltons and their "charitable" giving. You'll quickly find that it ain't happening.

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 11:22 AM

 

Telling me the proposal is "detrimental” and a “boondoggle" means nothing without any data as to why. :closedeyes:

 

That's probably more of a product of  Anna Tinsley's writing style, which is usually just a bunch of short quotes and he said she said commentary.


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Posted 13 August 2016 - 03:30 PM

ST reporting that the bond won't be coming soon. 



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Posted 05 January 2018 - 06:09 PM

I've heard JPS has closed or is working on acquiring on 5 blocks East of S Main, S of Cannon and North of Dashwood, and West of Crawford.

 

Edit- TAD confirms this. 

Interested to see what happens here, and also a little worried it could take away possible momentum from S Main's private development.



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Posted 05 January 2018 - 11:15 PM

I'm wondering why JPS needs so much land so far away from their main complex.


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Posted 13 December 2018 - 01:28 PM

JPS's selection of bids recieved in it's RFP for development of surface lots along Magnolia is suppossed to be decided in December. I'm not finding anything on whether a decision has been made. 

 

You can view the RFP here -> http://www.jpshealth...net-opportunity



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Posted 27 December 2018 - 01:34 PM

An update on the lack of updates, "CBRE Mum on JPS Health Network Development Opportunity"

 

https://www.virtualb...nt-opportunity/



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Posted 10 December 2019 - 09:51 PM

An update on the lack of updates, "CBRE Mum on JPS Health Network Development Opportunity"
 
https://www.virtualb...nt-opportunity/


I sent an email asking for info, here is the response,

"We are under contract but can't disclose details. If it closes, it is 2022 completion and occupancy."





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