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#1351 Jeriat

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 04:25 PM

Milan Gallery is relocating. Verizon is taking the space.

 

Word on where? 


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Posted 08 September 2017 - 04:26 PM

Nada.



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Posted 08 September 2017 - 07:03 PM

Hoya Korean Kitchen is either taking a break or closed. When I drove past today it was not open with signs on the door. 



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Posted 08 September 2017 - 08:39 PM

Changes are coming to Hoya, as well.



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Posted 09 September 2017 - 07:53 PM

Changes are coming to Hoya, as well.

 

So they're staying but changing?

Good... I like it there. 


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Posted 10 September 2017 - 06:39 PM

Milan gallery posted on Facebook that is was not their choice to move, their space will be smaller, and they are moving one block north from their current location.

 

 

Milan Gallery is relocating. Verizon is taking the space.

 

Word on where? 

 



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Posted 10 September 2017 - 06:40 PM

I wonder if it's the old Starbucks space on Houston?

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Posted 10 September 2017 - 08:22 PM

I wonder if it's the old Starbucks space on Houston?

 

That could work. 


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Posted 15 September 2017 - 01:29 PM

Thought this was interesting. Not really a point to be made or anything, but some good data. A&M Article.

 

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Posted 27 September 2017 - 04:09 PM

In the Sack will open next Tuesday.

Milan Gallery it's moving to the old Starbucks Space.

Charles Schwab's location in the Cassidy is under construction.

A pop up Christmas store is opening in the old Pappagallo space.

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Posted 30 October 2017 - 10:45 AM

Bank of America has relocated it's offices to Sundance Square.  The ground floor banking center is yet to be completed.  The Fort Worth Business Press has a story on the move.

 

http://www.fortworth...5a9d8bee25.html



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Posted 30 October 2017 - 11:14 AM

Awesome.  Now I can easily keep up with the comings and goings on. :swg: :swg: :swg:



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Posted 31 October 2017 - 03:53 PM

I find a bit of hypocrisy for Sundance Square to voice concerns about "tradition" when it is entering into an agreement with Nissan to sponsor Sundance Square including the plastering of Nissan Signs all over their property.

 

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 08:50 AM

All over which properties are they to be plastered?



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Posted 01 November 2017 - 01:55 PM

All over which properties are they to be plastered?

 

Well it was a bit of hyperbole; I think the notion that that old traditions are to be preserved rings hollow coming from SS. 



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Posted 01 November 2017 - 04:04 PM

The plaza celebrates its 4th anniversary today.  I went down to the plaza at lunch and walked around, then I went back that evening and on Saturday and on Sunday.  We also had a forum meeting on opening weekend.



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Posted 02 November 2017 - 08:10 AM

I find a bit of hypocrisy for Sundance Square to voice concerns about "tradition" when it is entering into an agreement with Nissan to sponsor Sundance Square including the plastering of Nissan Signs all over their property.

 

FWBP -http://www.fortworth...ff2ccdd59b.html

 

"Nissan is a perfect fit – they have a focus on community and providing exciting moments." 

 

A more generic statement is not possible.


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Posted 02 November 2017 - 09:44 AM

The September TCU game promotion is the one against Ohio State being played at Jerry World



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Posted 02 November 2017 - 11:50 AM

 

I find a bit of hypocrisy for Sundance Square to voice concerns about "tradition" when it is entering into an agreement with Nissan to sponsor Sundance Square including the plastering of Nissan Signs all over their property.

 

FWBP -http://www.fortworth...ff2ccdd59b.html

 

"Nissan is a perfect fit – they have a focus on community and providing exciting moments." .... A more generic statement is not possible.

 

Its not the Nissan Corporations that is the source of hypocrisy; it is Sundance Square that  recently suggested that its competitor, City Place, should be sensitive to signage.  SS will be presumably allowing illuminating signage on its property.  It will be interesting to see how sensitive the Nissan signage and branding will towards Downtown's tradition. 



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Posted 02 November 2017 - 12:31 PM

I'm willing to bet that any signage that Sundance puts up with the Nissan name will be very discrete and subtle.  There also may be very few things that show the Nissan name.  The DDRB hears all cases regarding signage, so I'm sure that if there are signs that will be placed, it will go before the DDRB in a public hearing where anyone, including member of this forum may express their opinions.



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Posted 02 November 2017 - 02:19 PM

I'm willing to bet that any signage that Sundance puts up with the Nissan name will be very discrete and subtle.  There also may be very few things that show the Nissan name.  The DDRB hears all cases regarding signage, so I'm sure that if there are signs that will be placed, it will go before the DDRB in a public hearing where anyone, including member of this forum may express their opinions.

 

I think that is an interesting bet; though the proof will be in the "pudding".  However, why would Nissan ink an marketing agreement if it does not want its brand displayed often and prominently?



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Posted 02 November 2017 - 02:41 PM

In these type of marketing sponsorship arrangements, eyeball (impressions) are often activated through marketing channels, collateral and temporary event setups. It isn't like naming rights in an arena or other facility. Permanent signage is simply not as effective or desirable (for either side). Green Mountain Energy is another example that has been around for 10 years or more but no signs are hanging on buildings.  There is not really a corollary between a marketing sponsorship and building signage. At least in this type of case.



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Posted 06 December 2017 - 03:36 PM

3rd Street Bar and Grill to open up in the Carnegie Building.  This is reported in the Fort Worth Business Press.

 

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 03:36 PM

Frankie's space has been filled

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 03:39 PM

Austin, we posted this at the same time, yet we provided two different links.



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Posted 07 December 2017 - 02:34 PM

 

I'm willing to bet that any signage that Sundance puts up with the Nissan name will be very discrete and subtle.  There also may be very few things that show the Nissan name.  The DDRB hears all cases regarding signage, so I'm sure that if there are signs that will be placed, it will go before the DDRB in a public hearing where anyone, including member of this forum may express their opinions.

 

I think that is an interesting bet; though the proof will be in the "pudding".  However, why would Nissan ink an marketing agreement if it does not want its brand displayed often and prominently?

 

 

So they can park a truck on the square with some advertising signage.  I have to admit that it caught my attention the first time I saw it.


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Posted 07 December 2017 - 03:24 PM

Austin, we posted this at the same time, yet we provided two different links.

 

Indeed we did. 

Does this put Sundance's retail at 100% leased? I cant think of any gaps. 



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Posted 08 December 2017 - 06:16 PM

I've heard rumors the building's facade is in need of extensive repairs. Much of the building has been empty for months now as leases expire.

 

 

I heard they are Not renewing leases at a Sundance West preparing for closed remodel. Last of residents out by New Years.

Condos conversion is my bet anyone?

 

Little more info on this. Work suppossed to start in March and last through June 2019. Scope of work is described as "Remove existing exterior veneer, windows, doors and roofing and replace new", and costs at $24 million. That is pricey.



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Posted 08 December 2017 - 06:45 PM

I heard they are Not renewing leases at a Sundance West preparing for closed remodel. Last of residents out by New Years.....Condos conversion is my bet anyone?

 

 Should makes them want to rethink their decision to build Cassidy at 6-story instead of topping out at 21/25-story.



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Posted 08 December 2017 - 11:02 PM

 

I've heard rumors the building's facade is in need of extensive repairs. Much of the building has been empty for months now as leases expire.

 

 

I heard they are Not renewing leases at a Sundance West preparing for closed remodel. Last of residents out by New Years.

Condos conversion is my bet anyone?

 

Little more info on this. Work suppossed to start in March and last through June 2019. Scope of work is described as "Remove existing exterior veneer, windows, doors and roofing and replace new", and costs at $24 million. That is pricey.

 

 

Yikes! :o


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Posted 09 December 2017 - 12:33 PM

As an architect, I had noticed problems with the masonry veneer had started not too long after the building was completed. 



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Posted 17 December 2017 - 07:56 PM

Not sure this is the right thread for this but... anyone else notice how bad the Christmas tree is leaning this year?

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Posted 17 December 2017 - 09:39 PM

Yes, I have, and I think a lot of others have noticed.  I think we should all be in the Christmas Spirit and we should celebrate the season and not worry about a tree that leans a little bit.  Nothing is perfect.



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Posted 17 December 2017 - 09:55 PM

I was just surprised is all, its gonna take more than a little lean to break my spirit!

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Posted 15 January 2018 - 12:33 PM

3rd Street Bar & Grill opens today

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Posted 29 January 2018 - 08:30 AM

Sundance Square is purchasing the Petroleum Building and garage from XTO:

 

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Posted 29 January 2018 - 09:05 AM

This is a big surprise to me.



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Posted 29 January 2018 - 11:44 AM

Here is a link to the Fort Worth Business Press article on the sale.  Robert Francis is the reporter on the story.

 

http://www.fortworth...b8b6c108f4.html



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Posted 30 January 2018 - 09:18 AM

Do members of the forum think they will continue to operate this as an office building, or do you think they will convert it to another use?  What do you think they will do with the 1/4 block vacant parcel on the block?



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Posted 30 January 2018 - 09:20 AM

Do members of the forum think they will continue to operate this as an office building, or do you think they will convert it to another use?  What do you think they will do with the 1/4 block vacant parcel on the block?

 

Parking garage, parking lot, bank, QT.

 

In order of priority.



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Posted 30 January 2018 - 11:07 AM

I had guess that if the building was going resi or hotel the small block would have an area with amenities built on to it, a couple of floors of meeting rooms, spa and gym, ground level restaurant, and pool space. If the building remains office I have no idea but would'nt be surprised to see it stay a lot. 

I'm really curious about the retail section of the garage. Sundance retail is near 100% leased and the "mall" could provide some interesting new options for space.



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Posted 30 January 2018 - 01:42 PM

If I owned the entire block and I didn't need the office space for my own needs, I would convert it back to retail in a heartbeat.



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Posted 30 January 2018 - 11:52 PM

It's interesting to walk along the garage base and look down into offices. That said, I'm thinking it would be even more interesting to look down into retail.


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Posted 31 January 2018 - 07:46 AM

The weird split-level mall thing is so very '70s in a not great way. I can imagine Sundance wanting to redesign it to be more conventional street-level retail spaces, if that's doable engineering-wise.


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Posted 04 February 2018 - 05:00 PM

Funkytown Donuts is moving into Sundance. I think into the old Cupcakery Space based on thier IG pic and it's the only empty space I can think of.



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Posted 08 February 2018 - 07:57 PM

Second location, right?  I'm interested in seeing what kind of hours they run.  There's a specialty doughnut shop in Southlake that has longer hours and they do pretty good after school business.



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Posted 08 February 2018 - 09:40 PM

Austin, I looked at their Instagram picture, and I agree with you.  It looks as if they will go into the old Cupcakery space.



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Posted 09 February 2018 - 02:05 PM

So I heard through an anonymous source about Sundances plans for the parking lot east of the Tower & north of the newly purchased Petroleum Building.

Plans are for a massive parking structure (approx 15 levels) with a 15 story hotel on top & a 15 story office building on top of that. It may have 5 floors of residential units as well, but that option is still up in the air.

However, it is proposed to be the tallest building in Fort Worth and planned to have an iconic design including tue possibility of a spire on top or something resembling the top of the courthouse.

It could start as soon as next year or could be put on hold due to market factors.

Im wondering if that is why Sundance purchased the petroleum building and garage south of this lot?

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Posted 09 February 2018 - 02:25 PM

A 600 foot Schwarz tower would certainly be something.

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Posted 09 February 2018 - 03:01 PM

Austin, I agree.  It will also make a bunch of people in The Tower mad.  Everyone on the east side will look into another building's windows.







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