Reprised: IC and the Westin Peachtree!!!
#1
Posted 12 September 2005 - 07:50 PM
--ironchapman
Yesterday, I finally got to do something I have wanted to do for a long time, go up to the Westin Peachtree's observation deck. I took several pictures up there, so enjoy!
The Westin Peachtree from the Outside
Looking Down from the Elevator of the Westin Peachtree
The Crown of 191 Peachtree from the SunDial
Looking North
The Georgia Dome
(L-R) Centennial Tower, CNN Center, and the Georgia Dome
(L-R) The Equitable Building and Two Peachtree
(L-R) The Georgia Capitol, the Fulton County Courthouse. and the Atlanta City Hall
Looking South
191 Peachtree
Atlanta Hyatt Regency
SunTrust Plaza
Centennial Olympic Park
The Centennial Olympic Park Fountain
What do you guys think?
BTW: I have several more pics that I took around Atlanta. I'll post them later.
If you'd like a more detailed description of my pics (building locations, odd facts, etc.), please visit my Flickr. (It's in the sig)
EDIT: Go here for more Westin pics!
--ironchapman
#2
Posted 12 September 2005 - 08:16 PM
#3
Posted 12 September 2005 - 08:32 PM
What??? You don't seriously believe that Fort Worth is bigger than Atlanta, do you? Atlanta has almost 5 million people, and certainly no one would say that FW can lay claim to everyone in the metroplex, much less more than 5 million of those residents. Don't be fooled by municipal populations, they tell only a small fraction of the story. This could be part of the reason you're so dissapointed with FW, at least if you hold it to such unreasonable competition.Great pictures. I've always loved Atlanta and its skyline. I've always said Fort Worth's skyline should be as impressive as Atlanta's given that the city of Fort Worth is much bigger, yet Atlanta seems to have better designed skyscrapers.
#4
Posted 12 September 2005 - 10:53 PM
#5
Posted 12 September 2005 - 11:06 PM
What??? You don't seriously believe that Fort Worth is bigger than Atlanta, do you? Atlanta has almost 5 million people, and certainly no one would say that FW can lay claim to everyone in the metroplex, much less more than 5 million of those residents. Don't be fooled by municipal populations, they tell only a small fraction of the story. This could be part of the reason you're so dissapointed with FW, at least if you hold it to such unreasonable competition.Great pictures. I've always loved Atlanta and its skyline. I've always said Fort Worth's skyline should be as impressive as Atlanta's given that the city of Fort Worth is much bigger, yet Atlanta seems to have better designed skyscrapers.
Atlanta has 5mil in population? within it's city limits?
#6
Posted 12 September 2005 - 11:28 PM
425,000 in city. 5 mil in it's metro.What??? You don't seriously believe that Fort Worth is bigger than Atlanta, do you? Atlanta has almost 5 million people, and certainly no one would say that FW can lay claim to everyone in the metroplex, much less more than 5 million of those residents. Don't be fooled by municipal populations, they tell only a small fraction of the story. This could be part of the reason you're so dissapointed with FW, at least if you hold it to such unreasonable competition.Great pictures. I've always loved Atlanta and its skyline. I've always said Fort Worth's skyline should be as impressive as Atlanta's given that the city of Fort Worth is much bigger, yet Atlanta seems to have better designed skyscrapers.
Atlanta has 5mil in population? within it's city limits?
#7
Posted 13 September 2005 - 04:51 AM
Like Johnny, most people think Atlanta is bigger than Fort Worth with its much more impressive skyline and name recognition. It's a great city for shopping and has a very cosmpolitian feel and incredible nightlife. But the population within the city limits is actually much smaller than Fort Worth. There is also some really good urban development going on there as well and the city really embraces its diversity. You look at FW and the metroplex population, and as I've said before, FW should look much bigger than it does. Fort Worth seems like a small town when compared to Atlanta.
#8
Posted 13 September 2005 - 11:31 AM
I think Johnny trying to be very modest about his FW pride, but not me, I like to boast how FW is bigger than most cities that are thought of as "even bigger". When we say FW is bigger, its due to our 600,000+ population within our city limits. Ironchapman just said Atlanta has 425,000 within their city limits. I think thats what counts. Why is it everyone wants to always include metro populations when comparing? That's like two 16yr olds trying to get in a 21 and older club saying "well together we are really 32" lol. Ok Atlanta has 5mil in metro, but FW and its suburbs, plus the entire metroplex has to be about that or more right? To me metro pop is adding as much as possible and if you can drive to Dallas without seeing one mile without civilization, then you can include them too. Bigger better? Nah, now I always loved Atlanta's skyline and city overall. I always wished we has a building like the Westin Peachtree (the rounded skyscraper) and its an awesome city overall. I really envy the style of Atlanta. I gotta go there one day
By the way, awesome pics ironchapman...I see why you proud
#9
Posted 13 September 2005 - 12:58 PM
#10
Posted 13 September 2005 - 05:38 PM
No, Atlanta has a more impressive skyline and name recognition because people KNOW it's bigger than Fort Worth. "Most people" don't give a flip about city limit populations because they, unlike you for some reason, realize that a city's influence knows no municipal boundaries. This is why we're constantly lumped with Dallas, because people don't see that invisible line that separates Fort Worth from Irving from Dallas.^^^^^^^
Like Johnny, most people think Atlanta is bigger than Fort Worth with its much more impressive skyline and name recognition.
drk, I wouldn't think of it as modest pride, I'm just using common sense. Think of it this way...would anyone say that Fort Worth is more urban than Boston? More cosmopolitan than Seattle? More expensive than Washington (well, most of it)? Yet by using FW's city limits, we're bigger than those other city limits and thus all of these things are expected of us. Look at the bigger picture. Boston actually has a population of 5 million, Washington about the same, and Seattle 3 million (or thereabouts). Can Fort Worth really lay claim to 5 million people all for itself? No, and this is why Boston, Seattle, and Washington bring up images of "big" in people's minds rather than Fort Worth.
Anyway, I'm sorry for distracting from your wonderful photos IC, I just couldn't let that first statement go uncommented. I wish I could have gone to the Sundial when I was in Atlanta, the views never cease to amaze me. It's too bad you can't see Symphony Tower too well because it turned out a lot better than I anticipated. I'm looking forward to your other Atlanta pictures, it's really a great place.
#11
Posted 13 September 2005 - 06:54 PM
As usual, I don't follow your logic. Many people don't know Atlanta is bigger than FW, they assume it is after visiting because it looks and feels bigger. I've never heard anyone use "small town feel" when describing Atlanta the way I've heard tons of people use the phrase when they describe FW. And I don't know how its impressive skyline has anything to do with people knowing it's bigger than FW. A city's skyline make an impression on people and speaks of a city's vision and influence. Atlanta experienced huge growth in the late 80's and early 90's. And it's skyline grew as well. Several of its most beautiful skyscrapers where built doing this time. There is an incredible modern 41 floor skyscraper being built downtown right now. FW has experienced massive growth this decade, and the downtown skyline has changed very little, and looking westward from I-30, it hasn't changed at all. When was the last time FW built anything 41 stories? And sorry, people do pay attention to populations of cities and you can't change the fact that people will always compare cities and expect certain things from cities with large populations. It's not that people are expecting FW to be just like other cities, but there are things people do expect from a city of 600,000 in a metro area of 6 million. And although I like FW very much, I agree with what I've heard many people say after visiting the first time, which is that FW doesn't seem like a city of over half a million people. But then maybe that is what makes Fort Worth unique, being the country's largest town. Maybe the new city slogan should be "FORT WORTH...DON'T EXPECT MUCH!!!
#12
Posted 13 September 2005 - 08:08 PM
As usual, I don't follow your logic. Many people don't know Atlanta is bigger than FW, they assume it is after visiting because it looks and feels bigger.
It looks and feels bigger because it IS bigger! Don't pay attention to technicalities, Atlanta for all practical intents and purposes has 5 million people. People DO know that Atlanta is bigger even if they don't realize it, because they don't see the political boundaries that cut off Atlanta from the metro area it alone has spawned.
And I don't know how its impressive skyline has anything to do with people knowing it's bigger than FW. A city's skyline make an impression on people and speaks of a city's vision and influence. Atlanta experienced huge growth in the late 80's and early 90's. And it's skyline grew as well.
People see the big skyline, and they get the image of a big place, I would think you would realize this seeing as how you're so caught up with Fort Worth's skyline or lack thereof. If you're defining "Atlanta" as the 425,000 people who live in the City of Atlanta, then Atlanta did NOT experience huge growth in the 80's and 90's, yet its skyline grew substantially. Also consider that Fort Worth's skyline grew considerably during the 80's, yet Fort Worth wasn't as booming as it is today. I'm not sure if I see a correlation between skyline growth and municipal population growth.
And sorry, people do pay attention to populations of cities and you can't change the fact that people will always compare cities and expect certain things from cities with large populations.
Yes, people pay attention the the populations of "cities", but they don't really pay attention to the populations of "municipalities". Ask the average American which they think is larger, Boston or San Antonio, and I highly doubt you will hear anyone say San Antonio, though technically San Antonio has more than twice as many people in its city limits. Boston has a metro area of 5 million people, and that is reflected in the services and attributes that give the impression of size to the general public. Thus, they think (rightfully so) that Boston is bigger.
It's not that people are expecting FW to be just like other cities, but there are things people do expect from a city of 600,000 in a metro area of 6 million.
You can't use the metro area argument for Fort Worth though, because Fort Worth isn't the only primary city in this region. Don't cut your city short, Dallas takes a hefty piece of our 6 million person pie. My arguments for metro stats rather than city stats only applies to cities that have full reign over their metro areas, when you start getting in to multi-polar areas like our own, you're opening up another can of worms. People, being the general public, don't expect much from Fort Worth anyway, because they don't see the 600,000 figure and they connect the metro figure with Dallas.
Whew, sorry about that. I think, barring any truly thoughtless responses, I'm done with the issue.
#13
Posted 29 September 2005 - 02:39 PM
Well, I have a few other pictures to share (some are good, some aren't) that turned out alright, but weren't eactly good enough to post in my original post here.
Take a look:
Looking Southeast:
Another Shot Looking North:
Here's some around Atlanta while I was there:
Buildings and Construction in Midtown:
The Georgia Aquarium:
The Centennial Olympic "Monument" (For lack of a better word...many Atlantans hate it)
And the tip of the Bank of America Plaza Building:
#14
Posted 29 September 2005 - 07:52 PM
Oh, and I wish we had an aquarium here in FW. I bet that one in Atlanta rocks! I love aquariums
#15
Posted 29 September 2005 - 09:18 PM
It will be an awesome sight when the aquarium opens this november, I can guarantee that.Oh, and I wish we had an aquarium here in FW. I bet that one in Atlanta rocks! I love aquariums
FTW is long overdue for one, though.
#16
Posted 27 October 2005 - 07:33 PM
Well, this Sunday, my familyand I went up the Westin Peachtree yet again for a nice brunch after church. Here's some of the pics I took along the way:
Inside the SunDial:
A Chandelier:
"The Atlanta Mosaic"
The Crown of the SunTrust Plaza:
Bank of America Plaza:
The Candler Building:
Looking North Along the Downtown Connector:
The Equitable Building:
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