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#201 Austin55

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Posted 19 April 2023 - 08:36 AM

Where is that? Google maps takes me to an existing neighborhood. 



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Posted 19 April 2023 - 09:13 AM

 

I can't believe they're going to build 50 acres here.  

 

https://www.oxenfree.com/

 

Record CG23-00084: 
Commercial Grading Permit
Record Status: Plan Review
 
Permit Address
4334 WHITE SETTLEMENT RD

 

Project Description:
Oxenfree at Fort Worth
Early grading
 
Disturbed Acres: 49.3

 

 

I cross-referenced the TAD account #6509150 that was listed on the grading permit and this site west of 820 popped-up.  It's closer to the 49 acre size too and appears vacant.  Can someone refresh my memory on what stood on this site? https://goo.gl/maps/GaA2TFLEghRGyV9G8

 

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Posted 19 April 2023 - 09:27 AM

Lockheed Martin Building 500 & 501



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Posted 19 April 2023 - 09:00 PM

Is Oxenfree a housing development or a commune? Just sign over over all your assets today and we will handle the rest.

We believe that a home shouldnt lock you into a certain kind of life. It should free you to explore new possibilities. Oxenfree neighborhoods empower that freedom and flexibility. Our leasing model gives you the benefits of a purpose built single family rental home (PBSFR ), without the long term commitment of a purchase. And our eclectic mix of housing gives the perfect place to live no matter where you are in your life.

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Posted 20 April 2023 - 05:51 AM

Lockheed Martin Building 500 & 501

 

Someone's finally developing that huge Lockheed site? Awesome! 



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Posted 20 April 2023 - 06:00 AM

Cross-quoting steave's post last year with a relevant article from the New Subdivisions thread:

 

Hopefully neighborhood NIMBY's can be shut down, there a housing shortage and this is needed:

 

https://fortworthrep...o-neighborhood/

 

I think, to be generous, the people complaining about this are all of an older generation that became homeowners in an era when any reasonably hard working person with a moderately skilled job or education could buy one of those small 1970s ranch houses or early 2000s Centex Homes plywood boxes. That's not how the world works anymore.

 

 

 



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Posted 20 April 2023 - 11:32 AM

 

 

I can't believe they're going to build 50 acres here.  

 

https://www.oxenfree.com/

 

Record CG23-00084: 
Commercial Grading Permit
Record Status: Plan Review
 
Permit Address
4334 WHITE SETTLEMENT RD

 

Project Description:
Oxenfree at Fort Worth
Early grading
 
Disturbed Acres: 49.3

 

 

I cross-referenced the TAD account #6509150 that was listed on the grading permit and this site west of 820 popped-up.  It's closer to the 49 acre size too and appears vacant.  Can someone refresh my memory on what stood on this site? https://goo.gl/maps/GaA2TFLEghRGyV9G8

 

https://aca-prod.acc...ShowInspection=

 

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I wouldn't call this area River District.



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Posted 20 April 2023 - 11:50 AM

I was waiting for someone to say something.  The grading permit has the Permit Address listed as: 4334 WHITE SETTLEMENT RD but I used TAD's database to reverse search what appears to the be correct location above.  John may want to move these past couple of posts to the "New Subdivisions" thread.  I am curious why they listed 4334 White Settlement Rd., plus where the drainage study?  Maybe that isn't needed for a brownfield development? 



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Posted 20 April 2023 - 11:55 AM

Yeah that is very strange.  I can see how this happened.  I put in the address and the pin came up near Gemele's



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Posted 20 April 2023 - 12:28 PM

Yeah that is very strange.  I can see how this happened.  I put in the address and the pin came up near Gemele's

 

At first, I thought it was that huge plot of land on the other side of the river from Gemele's where the gas well site and pasture sits.  That would be a shame to develop that land, in my opinion.  

 

This sounds like one big massive rental community.  



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Posted 21 April 2023 - 06:14 AM

Was that a Lockheed site? I thought this was where the police academy used to be before it was moved to South Fort Worth.

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Posted 21 April 2023 - 10:22 AM

I know that property went before zoning fairly recently but I can't remember when or what was planned there.



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Posted 21 April 2023 - 04:14 PM

I know that property went before zoning fairly recently but I can't remember when or what was planned there.

 

Found it, ZC-22-084

 

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Posted 21 April 2023 - 05:30 PM

Nice. So thats what Oxenfree looks like.

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Posted 21 April 2023 - 07:55 PM

Was that a Lockheed site? I thought this was where the police academy used to be before it was moved to South Fort Worth.

 

Yes, as others have said, Lockheed used to have a couple of buildings there.  Someone can correct me, but I thought that the police academy was in Northside/Panther Island.



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Posted 22 April 2023 - 07:58 AM

The Police Academy was on Calvert Street between just to the west of the confluence of the Clear and West Forks of the Trinity River.  You accessed the site by heading north on Woodward Street, which hit Henderson, just immediately east of the old intersection of White Settlement Rd. & Henderson. The academy was to the north of the old motor hotel that was on the east side of the intersection.



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Posted 10 May 2023 - 03:22 PM

Case Number: ZC-23-067 
Proposed Use: Urban Residential
Request: From: E Neighborhood Commercial
To: UR Urban Residential
 

The applicant is requesting to rezone the property from E Neighborhood Commercial to UR Urban
Residential. The subject properties in total are 2.95 acres, and both are currently undeveloped. The primary
purpose of the rezoning is to place multi-family units, which the current zoning does not allow for this type of
development. Under the Urban Residential (UR) zoning, multifamily is permitted but holds special restrictions.
The applicant has provided two conceptual site plans. They intend to develop the following:
 
4570 White Settlement Rd
The proposal includes 90 four story units and 113 parking spaces. This site is located at the corner of White
Settlement Road (south of the property) and Isbell Road (east of the property).
 
4500 White Settlement Rd
The proposal includes 75 four story units and 98 parking spaces. This property is located north of White
Settlement Road (south of the property) and west of 4570 White Settlement Rd.
There are several neighborhood concerns for this project. Staff is recommending a continuance, so that the
neighborhood and applicant can continue discussions. 
 
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Posted 10 May 2023 - 03:39 PM

That was fast

Edit: a couple of notes from this,

 

-The developer is the same behind the various "Magnolia" projects around the city 

-The 4500 property was dropped from the plans.

-It was noted that at one time Stratoflex was planning to leave the location they are at, but has since changed course and plans to stay. This takes away a pretty huge development site. 



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Posted 15 June 2023 - 01:19 PM

Case Number: ZC-23-067 
Proposed Use: Urban Residential
Request: From: E Neighborhood Commercial
To: UR Urban Residential
 

The applicant is requesting to rezone the property from E Neighborhood Commercial to UR Urban
Residential. The subject properties in total are 2.95 acres, and both are currently undeveloped. The primary
purpose of the rezoning is to place multi-family units, which the current zoning does not allow for this type of
development. Under the Urban Residential (UR) zoning, multifamily is permitted but holds special restrictions.
The applicant has provided two conceptual site plans. They intend to develop the following:
 
4570 White Settlement Rd
The proposal includes 90 four story units and 113 parking spaces. This site is located at the corner of White
Settlement Road (south of the property) and Isbell Road (east of the property).
 
4500 White Settlement Rd
The proposal includes 75 four story units and 98 parking spaces. This property is located north of White
Settlement Road (south of the property) and west of 4570 White Settlement Rd.
There are several neighborhood concerns for this project. Staff is recommending a continuance, so that the
neighborhood and applicant can continue discussions. 

 

The Zoning Commission voted to deny this change. Main reason being to preserve commercial zoning in the area. 



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Posted 15 June 2023 - 04:24 PM

 

Case Number: ZC-23-067 
Proposed Use: Urban Residential
Request: From: E Neighborhood Commercial
To: UR Urban Residential
 

The applicant is requesting to rezone the property from E Neighborhood Commercial to UR Urban
Residential. The subject properties in total are 2.95 acres, and both are currently undeveloped. The primary
purpose of the rezoning is to place multi-family units, which the current zoning does not allow for this type of
development. Under the Urban Residential (UR) zoning, multifamily is permitted but holds special restrictions.
The applicant has provided two conceptual site plans. They intend to develop the following:
 
4570 White Settlement Rd
The proposal includes 90 four story units and 113 parking spaces. This site is located at the corner of White
Settlement Road (south of the property) and Isbell Road (east of the property).
 
4500 White Settlement Rd
The proposal includes 75 four story units and 98 parking spaces. This property is located north of White
Settlement Road (south of the property) and west of 4570 White Settlement Rd.
There are several neighborhood concerns for this project. Staff is recommending a continuance, so that the
neighborhood and applicant can continue discussions. 

 

The Zoning Commission voted to deny this change. Main reason being to preserve commercial zoning in the area. 

 

Thanks Austin55. 

Was this opposed or just Zoning Council decided wasn't appropriate? 

Was it not consistent w/ Comprehensive Plan?

 

Looking at the master plan (posted above) it appears to show:

some small retail buildings, pushed to corners of the site, with parking somewhat hidden behind the buildings (great!)

Also seems to show some freestanding yellow/orange buildings mixed in with the retail buildings.  Yellow/orange is multifamily on the master plan.  

The master plan SEEMS to show some multifamily in there so it kind of sounds like the proposed rezoning was consistent with that - no?

 

So the land remains E Neighborhood Commercial.

What can be built under that? 

Anyone who knows, can you realistically build the retail buildings as shown (at the corners, w/ parking hidden behind) or does it realistically force suburban-style "pad sites" where buildings are surrounded by parking lots? 

 

E Neighborhood Commercial appears to allow general retail which, if not mistaken, would include dollar stores & gas stations - right??

 

Was this possibly a blown call by the Zoning Commission? 



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Posted 01 September 2023 - 11:19 AM

-It was noted that at one time Stratoflex was planning to leave the location they are at, but has since changed course and plans to stay. This takes away a pretty huge development site. 

 

Interestingly, the Parker-Hannifin Stratoflex complex is going for a zoning change to PD. 

 

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Posted 01 September 2023 - 02:02 PM

More dets. It's staying industrial, but looks like the whole existing building is coming down. 

 

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Posted 05 September 2023 - 03:50 PM

So they're demolishing the more interesting parts of the building (the concrete structure closer to Roberts Cut Off) and evidently leaving a metal shell part on the east?
If so thats too bad.  That building (at least the front/west part) could be reused for some other street-facing commercial use, and put residential such as multifamily behind.



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Posted 05 September 2023 - 07:08 PM

Stratoflex was part of Ken Davis Industries. Ken Davis Sr.'s son Cullen Davis was a part owner of the company.



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Posted 08 September 2023 - 08:48 AM

More dets. It's staying industrial, but looks like the whole existing building is coming down. 

 

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Here's the ZC descriptoin on this project:

 

Project Description:
Parker Hannifin
Zoning change from B, I and K to PD for I uses
Existing facility industrial/manufacturing facility has been at this location since the 1950's. At this time the facility no longer meets the needs for the owner or their clients. The same processes and manufacturing will continue but new technology and industry upgrades require a modern expanded facility. A portion of the existing zoning is B residential and needs to be changed to allow I district uses. Another portion of the existing zoning is K and that zoning is not required. The importance of this facility requires that manufacturing must continue during the construction of the new building; the old facility will then be demolished allowing additional parking and a new greenspace. A PD will allow this transition taking into account for the timing of the demo for landscaping and infrastructure. the present facility provides much needed jobs for this area and the proposed new facility and expansion will allow those jobs to remain in Fort Worth and possibly increase.
 
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Posted 09 September 2023 - 08:17 AM

Love that they're preserving industrial use here; if anything I wish they'd find a way to expand. More jobs = better!

 

Also wish that they'd sell off the small rectangle facing White Settlement next to Salsa Limon, though. It looks like they only plan to use that for parking and a driveway, which seems redundant given their huge Roberts Cut Off frontage which should support infinite driveways if they want them. Let White Settlement be a pure commercial / residential corridor and put all the industrial use frontage on Roberts Cut Off. 



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Posted 30 October 2023 - 08:33 AM

Record PDC-23-0075: 
Pre-Development Conference
Record Status: In Review
 
Project Description:
Little League Baseball Park
 
 
Job Value($): $705,281.92

Proposed Square Feet: 24,386.29

Proposed Use: Little league BB training

Number of Buildings: 1
 
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Posted 31 October 2023 - 08:03 AM

https://www.tdlr.tex.../TABS2024004327

 

PROJECT
Project Name: WESTFORK FITNESS
Project Number: TABS2024004327
Facility Name: WESTFORK FITNESS
Location Address: 4652 WHITE SETTLEMENT ROAD
Fort Worth, TX 76114
Location County: Tarrant
Start Date: 12/4/2023
Completion Date: 5/6/2024
Estimated Cost: $12,000,000
Type of Work: New Construction
Type of Funds: This project is privately funded, on private land for private use.
Scope of Work: Ground up construction of new prefabricated metal building and interior finish-out. New mechanical, electrical & plumbing equipment.
Square Footage: 10,096 ft 2


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Posted 31 October 2023 - 09:12 AM

 

https://www.tdlr.tex.../TABS2024004327

 

PROJECT
Project Name: WESTFORK FITNESS
Project Number: TABS2024004327
Facility Name: WESTFORK FITNESS
Location Address: 4652 WHITE SETTLEMENT ROAD
Fort Worth, TX 76114
Location County: Tarrant
Start Date: 12/4/2023
Completion Date: 5/6/2024
Estimated Cost: $12,000,000
Type of Work: New Construction
Type of Funds: This project is privately funded, on private land for private use.
Scope of Work: Ground up construction of new prefabricated metal building and interior finish-out. New mechanical, electrical & plumbing equipment.
Square Footage: 10,096 ft 2

 

 

almost $1200/sqft for a prefab metal building with a gym inside? surely that's not an accurate price?



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Posted 31 October 2023 - 03:06 PM

So they are currently at the location across the street and have been there about a year.  Looks like they want to build their own building.



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Posted 31 October 2023 - 09:07 PM

I wondered that too when I saw $12M but thought maybe they listed their all-in budget including equipment. $12M sounds about like the original budget for Paradox Church as a comparison.

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Posted 31 October 2023 - 09:14 PM

On rare occasions, I have listed total cost of a project, including FF&E in submitting for TDLR.  FF&E is furniture, fixtures, and equipment.  In my opinion, these three items are generally not provided by the general contractor, unless they are built into the building.



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Posted 15 November 2023 - 07:07 PM

 

Record PDC-23-0075: 
Pre-Development Conference
Record Status: In Review
 
Project Description:
Little League Baseball Park
 
 
Job Value($): $705,281.92

Proposed Square Feet: 24,386.29

Proposed Use: Little league BB training

Number of Buildings: 1
 
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Posted 18 February 2024 - 07:43 PM

The Toll Brother's "Settler" project seems to have a new name, The Sadie: https://www.tollbrot...olio/the-sadie/



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Posted 18 February 2024 - 08:22 PM

The Toll Brother's "Settler" project seems to have a new name, The Sadie: https://www.tollbrot...olio/the-sadie/

 

I guess I'm not getting the reference...who or what is Sadie? 



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Posted 27 February 2024 - 08:53 AM

River District New Construction of "On-The-Go" McDonald's

 

https://www.tdlr.tex.../TABS2024012362

 

PROJECT
Project Name: MCD WHITE SETTLEMENT RD & ROBERTS CUT-OFF - FORT WORTH, TX
Project Number: TABS2024012362
Facility Name: MCD WHITE SETTLEMENT RD & ROBERTS CUT-OFF - FORT WORTH, TX
Location Address: 5300 WHITE SETTLEMENT RD
Fort Worth, TX 76114
Location County: Tarrant
Start Date: 4/1/2024
Completion Date: 8/31/2024
Estimated Cost: $1,000,000
Type of Work: New Construction
Type of Funds: This project is privately funded, on private land for private use.
Scope of Work: New Construction "On-The-Go" McDonald's
Square Footage: 1,972 ft 2
Are the private funds provided by the tenant? No
 
 
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Posted 27 February 2024 - 09:28 AM

Surprised that is allowed in that area, but the zoning over there is a total hodgepodge. 

 

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Posted 27 February 2024 - 09:37 AM

One issue with these old filling stations are the underground tank remediation requirements.  I talked to an owner of a similar business and he said if he paid to have the tanks removed it could cost him as much as $200-300K which sounds really high to me but that's what he said.  Perhaps that included redoing all the concrete etc.  It actually became an issue when he tried to sell the business to someone looking to convert it to a taco shop where he had a filling station / mechanic shop but had since decommissioned the use of the tanks but they were still in-ground.

 

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Posted 27 February 2024 - 12:54 PM

 

River District New Construction of "On-The-Go" McDonald's

 

https://www.tdlr.tex.../TABS2024012362

 

PROJECT
Project Name: MCD WHITE SETTLEMENT RD & ROBERTS CUT-OFF - FORT WORTH, TX
Project Number: TABS2024012362
Facility Name: MCD WHITE SETTLEMENT RD & ROBERTS CUT-OFF - FORT WORTH, TX
Location Address: 5300 WHITE SETTLEMENT RD
Fort Worth, TX 76114
Location County: Tarrant
Start Date: 4/1/2024
Completion Date: 8/31/2024
Estimated Cost: $1,000,000
Type of Work: New Construction
Type of Funds: This project is privately funded, on private land for private use.
Scope of Work: New Construction "On-The-Go" McDonald's
Square Footage: 1,972 ft 2
Are the private funds provided by the tenant? No
 
 
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certainly VERY FAR from a highest and best use option for this site...  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 



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Posted 27 February 2024 - 01:13 PM

 

 

River District New Construction of "On-The-Go" McDonald's

 

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Project Name: MCD WHITE SETTLEMENT RD & ROBERTS CUT-OFF - FORT WORTH, TX
Project Number: TABS2024012362
Facility Name: MCD WHITE SETTLEMENT RD & ROBERTS CUT-OFF - FORT WORTH, TX
Location Address: 5300 WHITE SETTLEMENT RD
Fort Worth, TX 76114
Location County: Tarrant
Start Date: 4/1/2024
Completion Date: 8/31/2024
Estimated Cost: $1,000,000
Type of Work: New Construction
Type of Funds: This project is privately funded, on private land for private use.
Scope of Work: New Construction "On-The-Go" McDonald's
Square Footage: 1,972 ft 2
Are the private funds provided by the tenant? No
 
 

 

certainly VERY FAR from a highest and best use option for this site...  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

 

Unfortunately around these parts, other than many of us here on the forum, they rarely take into consideration the term "highest and best use". 



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Posted 28 February 2024 - 10:01 AM

"New $1M McDonald’s On-the-Go kiosk planned for this Fort Worth west side plaza"
By Ella Gonzales
 


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Posted 29 February 2024 - 10:28 AM

Not really a bad price. The big cost is disposing of the contaminated soil, there is always some, and of course the tanks and anything in them. The disposal fees are crazy expensive as not many places you can dispose of it. Last I did one of these, about 2010, the closest place we could dispose of it all, and there was a ton of soil as the tanks had been leaking for years, was all the way to Georgia as no where else at the time was taking anything environmental. 

 

One issue with these old filling stations are the underground tank remediation requirements.  I talked to an owner of a similar business and he said if he paid to have the tanks removed it could cost him as much as $200-300K which sounds really high to me but that's what he said.  Perhaps that included redoing all the concrete etc.  It actually became an issue when he tried to sell the business to someone looking to convert it to a taco shop where he had a filling station / mechanic shop but had since decommissioned the use of the tanks but they were still in-ground.

 

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Posted 13 March 2024 - 12:20 PM

 

"New $1M McDonald’s On-the-Go kiosk planned for this Fort Worth west side plaza"
By Ella Gonzales
 

 

 

I was looking for something and saw this final plat for the McDonalds:

 

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